[rumor] RIM Builds Mystery Building; Could it be Project GoldenEye?
- Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorAbstract :
Originally Posted by N4BB[...] The project GoldenEye was rumored to be a big server cloud facility with military-grade specs. Nevertheless, a new mystery building resembling such rumors has finally been erected and “A number of people from varying business units are housed there,” says Rebecca Freiburger, corporate communications manager at RIM.06-03-12 06:45 AMLike 0 - Yes I'm wondering what RIM is up to there. It could just be an office building...but that would be a let down. Then again, the building was commissioned in 2010, and considering back then RIM was only doing what it wanted/absolutely had to, a cloud server facility might have been a bit of an odd move for RIM then...06-03-12 07:11 AMLike 0
- Yes I'm wondering what RIM is up to there. It could just be an office building...but that would be a let down. Then again, the building was commissioned in 2010, and considering back then RIM was only doing what it wanted/absolutely had to, a cloud server facility might have been a bit of an odd move for RIM then...06-03-12 08:17 PMLike 0
- What makes you think this would be an odd move in 2010? That's the year that the PlayBook was announced, and so it could be very possible that RIM was planning to rebuild their push service back then. RIM had ling ago mentioned that BIS/BES will be difficult to port to QNX, so this could be part of that plan.06-04-12 01:29 PMLike 0
- Seems like the power requirements for a server farm and an suite of executive offices might be a little different. Wonder if that can be determined from the outside?
I always wondered how they got these up there to start a building:
Doesn't look like Google Maps has been updated there since 2010...06-04-12 02:57 PMLike 0 -
Much was I would like RIM to have been innovating in 2010, from what we've seen I just don't think it's credible.Last edited by gtpointer; 06-04-12 at 03:00 PM.
06-04-12 02:58 PMLike 0 -
RIM buys Ottawa's QNX Software - Technology & Science - CBC News
December 2, 2010
RIM welcomes TAT! �Inside BlackBerry - The Official BlackBerry Blog
Probably their two most strategic moves that signal departure away from BB OS and into the future with BB 10.06-04-12 03:07 PMLike 0 - It's going to be a giant agregator....
At this point, RIM is using MS Active Sync to manage the synchronization between Playbook and BB07. There was reason they rented and didn't buy....they are building own highly secure, two-stage encrypted massive switch that will enable BB10 to manage all the connections and data users will accumulate.
While this is nothing that Apple et al aren't doing today, the fact that RIM will wrap a secure perimeter around the "RimCloud" will enable government and business users to continue using RIM without compromising security. It will also enable users to store artifacts on a private secure facility (and here's the kicker) beyond the reach of the Patriot Act.JR A likes this.06-04-12 03:11 PMLike 1 - April 9, 2010
RIM buys Ottawa's QNX Software - Technology & Science - CBC News
December 2, 2010
RIM welcomes TAT! �Inside BlackBerry - The Official BlackBerry Blog
Probably their two most strategic moves that signal departure away from BB OS and into the future with BB 10.
Doing something original with these buildings such as a cloud solution (or original when conceived back in 2010) WOULD have been innovation and not in keeping with the way they were operating at the time.06-04-12 04:38 PMLike 0 - BIS and BES are implemented using protocols implemented in software. How difficult can it be to rewrite the existing algorithms in C/C++? I thought the University of Waterloo is supposed to be graduating the brightest computer science, mathematics, and engineering students in Canada. Every time I hear someone in a technical field say "that is impossible...that is too difficult...that is too tricky" I want to scream. If they are not up to the challenge then got out of the way so others can deliver.Roo Zilla likes this.06-04-12 05:00 PMLike 1
- BIS and BES are implemented using protocols implemented in software. How difficult can it be to rewrite the existing algorithms in C/C++? I thought the University of Waterloo is supposed to be graduating the brightest computer science, mathematics, and engineering students in Canada. Every time I hear someone in a technical field say "that is impossible...that is too difficult...that is too tricky" I want to scream. If they are not up to the challenge then got out of the way so others can deliver.
*disclaimer: this is all speculation...RIM has been rather unclear about the exact future of BIS/BES, making a few matters here and there and confusing things further with comments about Mobile Fusion and the implementation on the PB*06-04-12 05:10 PMLike 0 - BIS and BES are implemented using protocols implemented in software. How difficult can it be to rewrite the existing algorithms in C/C++? I thought the University of Waterloo is supposed to be graduating the brightest computer science, mathematics, and engineering students in Canada. Every time I hear someone in a technical field say "that is impossible...that is too difficult...that is too tricky" I want to scream. If they are not up to the challenge then got out of the way so others can deliver.06-04-12 05:19 PMLike 0
- BIS and BES are implemented using protocols implemented in software. How difficult can it be to rewrite the existing algorithms in C/C++? I thought the University of Waterloo is supposed to be graduating the brightest computer science, mathematics, and engineering students in Canada. Every time I hear someone in a technical field say "that is impossible...that is too difficult...that is too tricky" I want to scream. If they are not up to the challenge then got out of the way so others can deliver.
no offence but you don't seem to understand the reason, purpose and limitations of computer code/languages. help us all out and take a class.06-04-12 06:06 PMLike 0 - I know very little about coding and developing BUT...I don't think it's about re-writing the BIS/BES infrastructure. It's about the fact that the QNX operating system just doesn't like the infrastructure it doesn't matter what language it's written in. Thus a complete over-haul/restructuring of BIS/BES was needed, which we will see the results of when BB10 is launches.
*disclaimer: this is all speculation...RIM has been rather unclear about the exact future of BIS/BES, making a few matters here and there and confusing things further with comments about Mobile Fusion and the implementation on the PB*BBOttawa likes this.06-04-12 06:45 PMLike 1 - Seems like the power requirements for a server farm and an suite of executive offices might be a little different. Wonder if that can be determined from the outside?
I always wondered how they got these up there to start a building:
Doesn't look like Google Maps has been updated there since 2010...
but google in our friend and searching the address gives a forum thread showing municipal planning details:
AMENDMENT TO REGIONAL MUNICIPALITY OF WATERLOO CONTROLLED ACCESS BY-LAW #58-87 FOR ACCESS TO REGIONAL ROAD #50 (WESTMOUNT ROAD), CITY OF WATERLOO
REGION OF WATERLOO PLANNING, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES: Transportation Planning
TO: Chair Jim Wideman and Members of the Planning and Works Committee
DATE: June 22, 2010 | Report: P-10-060
RECOMMENDATION:
THAT the Regional Municipality of Waterloo Controlled Access By-law #58-87 be amended to include a temporary right in-right only construction access on the east side of Regional Road # 50 (Westmount Road) approximately 340 metres north of Bearinger Road, in the City of Waterloo as outlined in P-10-060, dated June 22, 2010.
SUMMARY:
Research in Motion has received Site Plan approval to construct a new research facility on the east side of Westmount Road, north of Bearinger Road, in the City of Waterloo. The site plan includes a previously approved permanent access to Westmount Road. The access is located south of the proposed building and due to site constraints, the contractor has requested a second temporary right in/right out access north of the proposed building. This access will be used for the duration of construction and will be closed upon completion of construction. City of Waterloo staff concur with the request.
REPORT:
...Research in Motion has received site plan approval to construct a 7600 m2 research facility at 560 Westmount Road, north of Bearinger Road, in the City of Waterloo (Appendix A).06-04-12 07:06 PMLike 0 - Has everyone forgotten about the building RIM bought in Cambridge (close to their Cherry Blossom office)? The one that's supposedly militarized and bomb proof? With barbed wire fencing and 24 hour security? If their data centre (which is likely on hold, considering their current situation) is going anywhere, it's probably going there. Just sayin...06-04-12 07:12 PMLike 0
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- ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorNot innovating. Seeing they had a problem that needed fixing. Undoubtedly strategically important, but not innovation. They bought Torch Mobile in 2009, again undoubtedly important to BB10 but not innovation - just dealing with the problem of their shoddy browser before.
Doing something original with these buildings such as a cloud solution (or original when conceived back in 2010) WOULD have been innovation and not in keeping with the way they were operating at the time.
In the strictest sense, you could argue that RIM was merely "buying innovation", but when you look at all of the acquisitions Apple and Microsoft have made over the years, it's not like there's no precedent.
I think it's important to evaluate those acquisitions, though. Torch got them a kick- browser team. QNX got them the basis for a potentially great OS. TAT gave them a great team of UI designers. Were these acquisitions mistakes?
Sure, they likely started too late. Most likely, they didn't understand how long it would take to "digest" these acquisitions and get them functioning as parts of RIM, but that doesn't mean the acquisitions were bad, or reflected bad strategy.06-05-12 12:00 AMLike 0 - Sounds like an R&D facility, how can you get a "large-scale" data center in a three story building? Especially if there are building for the next generation. If we take one of apple's data centers as providing something to compare with, the one they set-up in North Carolina (in 2009) is across 180 acres (I think).06-05-12 06:19 AMLike 0
- Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusThis would be VERY late in the game to be just completing a data center for cloud features. I would think these would be integrated into their existing NOC structures rather than a small building. However, this may be a new HQ for QNX or even for one of their other purchased subsidiaries.06-05-12 06:28 AMLike 0
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