RIM Won't Live to See 2013, Analyst Says
- It seems factual that Nortel, another Canadian company, was bought out so I'd say that could be regarded as a fact used in katiepea's defense. Building on that for those of you who don't see her side of this, what makes RIM any more highly regarded than Nortel to the point where they wouldn't let RIM go? Was Nortel the red-headed step-child of Canada?
Would the Canadian Government block the sale of RIM? | Cantech Letter09-16-11 08:16 PMLike 0 - RIM needs to figure out why people are buying iDroid products instead of BlackBerries.
Clearly I'm too dumb to figure this out because I question why people buy iDroids over BlackBerries.
I'm sick of hearing analysts say "RIM needs to innovate, they need better handsets, blah blah". The handsets work just fine and the latest lineup is on par with the competition.09-16-11 10:28 PMLike 0 - RIM needs to figure out why people are buying iDroid products instead of BlackBerries.
Clearly I'm too dumb to figure this out because I question why people buy iDroids over BlackBerries.
I'm sick of hearing analysts say "RIM needs to innovate, they need better handsets, blah blah". The handsets work just fine and the latest lineup is on par with the competition.09-16-11 10:30 PMLike 0 -
- Most of them useless. I'd rather have a keyboard than half a million 99 cent apps that I can download and play with once.
I'm starting to think that the problem with RIM isn't really a problem with RIM - it's a customer problem. They like pretty little white things with pictures of someone's half-eaten snack on them.09-16-11 10:45 PMLike 0 - 09-16-11 10:48 PMLike 0
- Most of them useless. I'd rather have a keyboard than half a million 99 cent apps that I can download and play with once.
I'm starting to think that the problem with RIM isn't really a problem with RIM - it's a customer problem. They like pretty little white things with pictures of someone's half-eaten snack on them.
well, most people, that's who, apps expand the functionality of your phone, i find it very hard to argue against their existence, i would have to assume you wouldn't find it a bad thing if app world had 475k apps.09-16-11 10:48 PMLike 0 -
- you're really going to say that MOST of 475k apps are useless? if that's the case i suppose you won't ever be using the android player on qnx right? because why would you apps are useless who wants those?
well, most people, that's who, apps expand the functionality of your phone, i find it very hard to argue against their existence, i would have to assume you wouldn't find it a bad thing if app world had 475k apps.09-16-11 11:03 PMLike 0 - I've been in sales and customer service long enough to know that many customers are sheep. They'll buy whatever big brand name they heard 10 times the day before on the TV. A big part of RIM's troubles are customers buying into the belief that iToys are somehow "better".09-16-11 11:05 PMLike 0
- I've been in sales and customer service long enough to know that many customers are sheep. They'll buy whatever big brand name they heard 10 times the day before on the TV. A big part of RIM's troubles are customers buying into the belief that iToys are somehow "better".
Anyway it's amusing that people are putting the blame on the customers rather than on RIM. Made me chuckle I guess that's the reason why RIM is going downhill, refusing to acknowledge their flaws and whatnot.09-16-11 11:12 PMLike 0 - I've been in sales and customer service long enough to know that many customers are sheep. They'll buy whatever big brand name they heard 10 times the day before on the TV. A big part of RIM's troubles are customers buying into the belief that iToys are somehow "better".09-16-11 11:14 PMLike 0
- I've been in sales and customer service long enough to know that many customers are sheep. They'll buy whatever big brand name they heard 10 times the day before on the TV. A big part of RIM's troubles are customers buying into the belief that iToys are somehow "better".09-16-11 11:42 PMLike 0
- I've been in sales and customer service long enough to know that many customers are sheep. They'll buy whatever big brand name they heard 10 times the day before on the TV. A big part of RIM's troubles are customers buying into the belief that iToys are somehow "better".09-16-11 11:44 PMLike 0
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- I've been in sales and customer service long enough to know that many customers are sheep. They'll buy whatever big brand name they heard 10 times the day before on the TV. A big part of RIM's troubles are customers buying into the belief that iToys are somehow "better".09-17-11 12:31 AMLike 0
- Many of us WANT to return to the blackberry platform, but can't.
Never in my life have I heard that a companies problems were caused by the customers being, how did someone put it? Sheep? Amazing.
It's quiet simple why people are leaving blackberry. Simply put- I get more bang for my buck on another platform. I like some of the 475,000 apps available and DO NOT want to lose them. Why should I? Some are fun, and others help me manage my day.09-17-11 12:47 AMLike 0 -
If Joe Dirt sees enough frequent ads telling him " if you don't have an iPhone... well, you don't have an iPhone" he's gonna start believing the product is better. Especially if there are few/none ads from the competition disputing this fact.
RIM/Google/MS should be advertising "if you don't have an iPhone... you're smart for doing some research and buying the best phone for your needs."09-17-11 12:55 AMLike 0 - Many of us WANT to return to the blackberry platform, but can't.
Never in my life have I heard that a companies problems were caused by the customers being, how did someone put it? Sheep? Amazing.
It's quiet simple why people are leaving blackberry. Simply put- I get more bang for my buck on another platform. I like some of the 475,000 apps available and DO NOT want to lose them. Why should I? Some are fun, and others help me manage my day.
i couldn't agree with this more, this is where i am at with android, i never intended to keep android. i bought a nexus one when it came out with full intentions of switching when the torch launched. that phone was so bad i returned it and kept the nexus one, which i kept for a year, still the whole time waiting for RIM to draw me back, this simply hasn't happened. i'm more than willing to keep an open mind about QNX but i'm so into android at this point, i completely love the integration of my phone with my computer and other daily tasks, that it will be hard to leave. i can be at dinner and download a torrent at home from my phone for a show to watch later, or program my DVR, and given this is an enthusiasts forum, and people like to play with their phones, android provides an extreme customization experience from installing different keyboards, to sms apps, to changing the OS entirely from a port from a totally different phone altogether. RIM has a lot of catching up to do, i won't say they need to be like either apple or google, but they need to provide a rich experience for users.
the upcoming sleeper i would predict to really change things is going to be microsoft, android and iOS are solid, but microsoft is getting ready to roll out some totally game changing stuff, a seamless experience between pc, tablet, and phone that is getting nothing but rave reviews and anticipation. if microsoft takes off as a strong #3 then RIM really is in serious serious peril.
if you're interested in looking at the competition coming from microsoft look here: http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/13/sorry-...t-post-pc-era/
there are big time developers banking on windows at this point, even working on apps for wp7 before iOS and android.Last edited by katiepea; 09-17-11 at 01:01 AM.
09-17-11 12:57 AMLike 0 - There was a good example of livestock on the news tonight.
Reporter asked people on the street what they liked better, iPhone or BlackBerry.
One sheep answered "iPhone, cuz I like the iPod app and loud speaker it has".
For F%#K sake, the BlackBerry Torch has a fine music player app, and the speakers is plenty loud enough.
Sheep, livestock, whatever you want to call them they've all fallen victim to Apple's marketing.09-17-11 01:17 AMLike 0 - There was a good example of livestock on the news tonight.
Reporter asked people on the street what they liked better, iPhone or BlackBerry.
One sheep answered "iPhone, cuz I like the iPod app and loud speaker it has".
For F%#K sake, the BlackBerry Torch has a fine music player app, and the speakers is plenty loud enough.
Sheep, livestock, whatever you want to call them they've all fallen victim to Apple's marketing.09-17-11 01:20 AMLike 0 - I can't stand Android. Not just the stupid honeybread and gingercomb names, but I just find the phones stupid and confusing. Nothing is where you want it, the whole interface is too dynamic. Social feeds clutter up practically every screen with unnecessary "I just farted and it smelled" posts from friends of friends on Facespace and Twitbook reports of some girl you don't know blabbering on about her itch "down there".
There's nothing cute about the stupid green robot either. his alien identity crisis is starting to **** me off.
BBOS is clean, straight to the point and functional. The only thing RIM needs to do is market it better and convince a few good app developers to give them the time of day.
I'd rather have a few good functional apps than angry bloody birds.i7guy and Jake Storm like this.09-17-11 01:24 AMLike 2 - Yes, there is.
So your argument relies on the assumption that RIM, Google and MS are smart enough to create top flight products but not sharp enough to counter iPhone ads. Not encouraging.09-17-11 01:35 AMLike 0
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