[sinsin07]

My company when I was BOYD paid 60% of my plan, + 100% of all business related long distance calls.

We moved to the company provided smartphone in 2008 for cost savings with negotiated plans, and data share packages. as well as control over the phone number.

Thanks. I was looking for more along the lines of some sort of independent source but that probably does not exist.

[_StephenBB81]

Thanks. I was looking for more along the lines of some sort of independent source but that probably does not exist.

I would suspect it doesn't, as that would be breaking out a pretty small segment of financial data, that for most wouldn't be worth publishing.

Ford never cited financial advantages over moving to a BYOD option from their former Company issued devices exclusively, and they talked about it extensively when they started letting people bring iOS products into the BlackBerry house, which even with BYOD say many people bringing BlackBerry devices of their own...


Being as our Canadian and American divisions run their own cellphone rules, I can see that in the US company's probably wouldn't see the same savings as in Canada for company owned devices, you are just entering the data sharing plan market in the US,
Shared data plans across devices can save big dollars for company's paying for plans.


of your company's 5 Million BYOD devices how many of those devices would you say the users NEED for work, in that the phone number is classified as a work number and people call it regularly for work purposes?

and how does that % compare to the % of company issued devices who require the same connectivity?

[kill_9]

Seriously, I thought this thread was going be about "Bring Your Own Dog" to work day. Now, THAT could cause some trouble.

Now Bring Your Own Dog (BYOD) is a trend I could embrace with only one reservation - no small yapping dogs; they are the only dogs to ever bite me.

[southlander]

of your company's 5 Million BYOD devices

Huh? What kind of company would have 5 million employees?

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[_StephenBB81]

Would love to see some supporting evidence of companies paying for employee plans on BYOD, licensing cost, and free/new activations. We have 55,000 plus BBs, and 5m plus BYOD's, have not seen any of the above.

Huh? What kind of company would have 5 million employees?

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What ever Kind Sinsin works for apparently

[Nogrentain]

Most surprising that there exists a company with 5 million+ work phones, BYOD or not.

[southlander]

Most surprising that there exists a company with 5 million+ work phones, BYOD or not.

Can't be a company. Government I suppose.

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[Nogrentain]

Even then, I'm not sure if even the US has that many public servants in total. Maybe the EU, but I doubt it. Potentially China? I doubt it, though

[loc5]

I don't know why people would bring their devices into workplace, I don't want IT staffs to know all the privacy details. I've seen devices with pornographic pictures on them all the time. As a tier 2 support person, I don't really want to support those device either. Who will responsible if I ask you to install a simple fix, but might cause a crash, bye bye all those pictures. I mean, if citrix client doesn't work, I will ask you to remove and reinstall and again, and if that still doesn't work, then you are on your own. I'm not going to do something fancy to get the device going, too much liability, and they don't pay me enough.

[AlienSlacker]

I don't know why people would bring their devices into workplace, I don't want IT staffs to know all the privacy details. I've seen devices with pornographic pictures on them all the time. As a tier 2 support person, I don't really want to support those device either. Who will responsible if I ask you to install a simple fix, but might cause a crash, bye bye all those pictures. I mean, if citrix client doesn't work, I will ask you to remove and reinstall and again, and if that still doesn't work, then you are on your own. I'm not going to do something fancy to get the device going, too much liability, and they don't pay me enough.

Its funny that you say that because about a year ago my primary employer started allowing BYOD but if you go for that option you sign a waiver allowing It and Security full access to your phone and if something goes wrong your $hit out of luck. Plus here's the kicker they also will no longer subsidize your service. My second job it's all IT issued BB's no exceptions your not even allowed to bring your personal device into the facility, no exceptions.

[Superfly_FR]

I don't know why people would bring their devices into workplace, I don't want IT staffs to know all the privacy details.

One more point in favor of BES/Balance.
What is private is private and what is business is business ... Security is too often reduced to corporations secrets/leaks/intrusion; it's also about people privacy when dealing with RIM's infrastructure. Great, isn't it ?

[jrohland]

It surprises me that anyone thinks BYOD is a good idea. From every angle I look it appears to be a loose-loose for everyone involved. The reasons to have BYOD appear to be; employees don't want to carry two devices, and, they want to choose the device they use. Both are understandable. However, I don't want my company to have access to my personal phone and, I don't get choice for lots of stuff at work.

My company does BYOD and they reimburse up to $150 a month. That is a sweet little chuck of cash for me and I'll take it. As a business strategy, I think it is stupid. I won't put my BB on the company BES and the firm never touches my phone. Most of the techs have Androids and management has iPhones so, they clearly don't care about security. Funny part is, our largest customer just banned iPhones and iPads from accessing their systems from outside because their high-end Apple consulting firm could not secure them to the degree required by the regulatory auditor. At the same time, our techs access those same systems remotely all the time with their mobile devices. If the auditor knew that...

[Sith_Apprentice]

Blackpool ICT boss: BYOD doesn't save money �€� The Register
BYOD: If You Think You're Saving Money, Think Again CIO.com

Those are two a quick internet search will bring you. The second has information from a study done by the Aberdeen Group.

Aberdeen Group found that a company with 1,000 mobile devices spends an extra $170,000 per year, on average, when they use a BYOD approach.

That is just on $1000 devices, and an average at that. Some will be higher some will be lower. The CIO.com article does well to also outline these costs. Keep in mind that some companies and most government entities get smartphone plans that no consumer can get. For instance, a pooled voice plan (each user gets approximately 450 minutes plus the usual unlimited nights/weekends/texting/data) and unlimited international data on a BlackBerry runs $75 where i work. A typical consumer plan for that same thing (on AT&T for instance) runs:
$39.99 for the voice
$20 for unlimited texting
$20 for 300MB of smartphone data. This doesnt include any unlimited and 300MB is very very small amount of data. If you want more breathing room, bump it up to 3GB for an additional $10.

Right now we are sitting at $90 a month and we dont have unlimited data, and we havent even touched international. Lets assume that we dont need unlimited international data. We will go with the lowest plan that AT&T has available for International.

$24.99 for 50MB of data with an overage of $10/10MB.
$5.99 for world traveler plan (for calling)

Now we are at $121/mo and we are not unlimited in data, we are not unlimited international. We will use deRusset's 60% reimbursement as an average. That is $72.60 to pay for an employees line, per month. This is JUST the bill, it doesnt include anything related to expense reports (which Aberdeen concludes costs just under $30 per month), additional costs incurred for MDM solutions (if any) etc etc.

You can see where the costs begin to add up quickly.

Note the above study was conducted by surveying more than 100 companies. The survey itself is published here Aberdeen's 2012 Telecom Lifecycle Management Survey


Also, I am not against a multi platform - multi vendor approach necessarily. In my environment its a terrible idea, but there are many business cases to use this approach. I think BYOD is not going anywhere, but I also think its a hot item that will somewhat fade with time. There will be companies that use it, and others will implement, and them remove it. Its simply a matter of what fits the company best at the time, but should not be just blindly used because its today's buzz word.