1. hvd23's Avatar
    In India the BlackBerry Z10 is overpriced .
    Hardware comparison Only.
    Is this phone meant for hardcore BlackBerry fans only, who will buy only out of love and loyalty but is this enough to attract new customers.
    This thread is not intended to offend anyone in anyway.
    Is it worth buying for a slightly higher ppi n 2 GB ram

    1.Samsung Galaxy S2 MRP 32000/- price at launch April 2011[best price 18000/-]
    1.2 Dual Core/217 ppi/1650 mAh battery/8 MP/ GPU Mali 400/4.3 inch display/1gb ram

    2.Nokia Lumia MRP 39000/-[best price 33,990\-]with wireless charging. Announced 2012 September
    1.5 Dual core krait/332 ppi/2000 mAh battery/8 MP/GPUAdreno 225/4.5 inch display.

    3.Blackberry Z10 MRP 43,500/- price at launch Feb. 2013[best price 42,500]
    1.5 Dual core krait/355 ppi/1800 mAh battery/8 MP/GPU Adreno 225/4.2 inch display/2gb ram

    4.Samsung Galaxy Cricket 20,600/- price at launch. nov 2012
    1.5 dual core krait/306 ppi/2100 mAh battery/8 MP/GPU Adreno 225/4.8 inch display/2gb ram

    5.Samsung S3 MRP 36,500/- Price at launch 2012 May[best buy 2012 Oct. 28,000/-][2013 jan 26500/-]
    1.4 Quad core/306 ppi/2100 mAh/8 MP/GPU Mali 400/4.8 inch display

    6. Samsung S4 MRP. 41,500/- price at launch. March 2013
    1.6 Quad core & 1.2 Quad core/441 ppi/ 2600 mAh/ 13 MP/ GPU PowerVR SGX 544MP3 / 5.0 inch display.

    Edited to avoid confusion.

    I'm not saying it's a bad phone or its the best phone I'm just trying to say it's expensive in comparison to the hardware.


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    Last edited by hvd23; 04-30-13 at 10:03 AM.
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    04-30-13 08:34 AM
  2. xinutel's Avatar
    I won't pretend to know the market in India, but based on your previous 44 posts I would say you are obviously a placed corporate plant. shame on you. boo!
    04-30-13 08:39 AM
  3. anon(5624621)'s Avatar
    Hardware comparison Only.
    I found the problem.
    Personally, I bought my Z10 for BB10, not the hardware.
    04-30-13 08:42 AM
  4. sleepngbear's Avatar
    Hardware specs. Not worth wasting the bandwidth discussing.
    anon(3896606) and rotorwrench like this.
    04-30-13 08:42 AM
  5. wuulfy's Avatar
    well ill be getting mine for free with a �36 a month contract with unlimited texts and 1gig of data....
    04-30-13 08:46 AM
  6. jasonmelling's Avatar
    There have been some thoughts worth considering regarding the high price of the Q10. I fall into the "thats a ridiculous price to charge" and agree with your sentiment of BB charging too high, but I only feel this way because I can't afford it. As for it being a "rip-off": to a person that has the money to afford the "best keyboard" out there on a system that is is just as good (if not better in some ways) as Android and iOS, the Q10 would be a good deal. Some people believe strongly in "you get what you pay for".

    As for the Z10, it too has the "best (onscreen) keyboard".

    I agree with you that the prices are too high, but that is only because I can't afford it. If I made 600 dollars a day, I'd buy one easy and quick. But, you raise an interesting point, because when I buy a new cellphone, I may just have to go with an Android because they are not as expensive. (Blackberry needs to get the r10 out to make a sale to me.)
    mujahid 10, Etios and hvd23 like this.
    04-30-13 08:47 AM
  7. Jon Tessler's Avatar
    In India the BlackBerry Z10 is overpriced .
    Hardware comparison Only.
    Is this phone meant for hardcore BlackBerry fans only, who will buy only out of love and loyalty but is this enough to attract new customers.
    This thread is not intended to offend anyone in anyway.
    Is it worth buying for a slightly higher ppi n 2 GB ram

    1.Samsung Galaxy S2 MRP 32000/- price at launch April 2011[best price 18000/-]
    1.2 Dual Core/217 ppi/1650 mAh battery/8 MP/ GPU Mali 400/4.3 inch display/1gb ram

    2.Nokia Lumia MRP 39000/-[best price 33,990\-]with wireless charging. Announced 2012 September
    1.5 Dual core krait/332 ppi/2000 mAh battery/8 MP/GPUAdreno 225/4.5 inch display.

    3.Blackberry Z10 MRP 43,500/- price at launch Feb. 2013[best price 42,500]
    1.5 Dual core krait/355 ppi/1800 mAh battery/8 MP/GPU Adreno 225/4.2 inch display/2gb ram

    4.Samsung Galaxy Cricket 20,600/- price at launch. nov 2012
    1.5 dual core krait/306 ppi/2100 mAh battery/8 MP/GPU Adreno 225/4.8 inch display/2gb ram

    5.Samsung S3 MRP 36,500/- Price at launch 2012 May[best buy 2012 Oct. 28,000/-][2013 jan 26500/-]
    1.4 Quad core/306 ppi/2100 mAh/8 MP/GPU Mali 400/4.8 inch display

    6. Samsung S4 MRP. 41,500/- price at launch. March 2013
    1.6 Quad core & 1.2 Quad core/441 ppi/ 2600 mAh/ 13 MP/ GPU PowerVR SGX 544MP3 / 5.0 inch display.


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    So for your comparison about how "overpriced" the Z10 is, you match its "on sale" price against a bunch of phones that came out 1 to 2 years ago. the only "new" phone you list is the Glaxey S4 which is 2000 MRP less. Not a big difference if you ask me. And I noticed you did not have any Iphones listed....,why not?
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    04-30-13 08:47 AM
  8. Omnitech's Avatar
    In India the BlackBerry Z10 is overpriced .

    Pity you did not include the Apple iPhone 5 in that list, which I believe sells for MORE than the Z10 in India.

    Several discussions have been created here about this over the past 2 months or so, opinions of Indian users seem to vary widely about whether the device is too expensive or not.

    Luckily in your country the price of the service is much lower than it is here. In the USA and many other countries, the device price is lower because it is being subsidized by a carrier contract, along with much higher monthly service prices.
    04-30-13 08:51 AM
  9. hvd23's Avatar
    I won't pretend to know the market in India, but based on your previous 44 posts I would say you are obviously a placed corporate plant. shame on you. boo!
    I'm a BlackBerry fan but definitely not a Fanatic and I'm not implying that you are a Fanatic.
    Your calling me a corporate plant but im just a end user who is voicing his opinion or a point of view.
    I would love to see this phone be priced really aggressive and every1 buys them.
    Hope you understand and pls take this as creative criticism. Thank you

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    04-30-13 08:57 AM
  10. SirJes's Avatar
    *Thread Reaper*
    I say this thread's time is up..
    Let it die...

    Posted via CB10
    04-30-13 09:02 AM
  11. hvd23's Avatar
    well ill be getting mine for free with a �36 a month contract with unlimited texts and 1gig of data....
    FOC is always great...cheers

    Posted via CB10
    04-30-13 09:11 AM
  12. Deathcommand's Avatar
    I think this post is like comparing Apples to Beef.
    Both are meant to fill your stomach yet one costs more. By your logic, we should only eat apples.


    Forever.

    Posted via Dec Alpha C
    04-30-13 09:24 AM
  13. shaleem's Avatar
    I f you think it's a "total ripoff" then don't buy one! It's really that simple. I am so tired of threads like this.
    04-30-13 09:27 AM
  14. Omnitech's Avatar
    By your logic, we should only eat apples.

    Everyone knows Blackberries are much healthier than Apples.
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    04-30-13 09:29 AM
  15. jrohland's Avatar
    I went to have brain surgery. The doctor wanted to charge me $72000.00. I told him the scalpel cost $20 and that is all I'm going to pay. Maybe because I haven't had the surgery is why I think the OP is confused?
    John Pawling likes this.
    04-30-13 09:35 AM
  16. hvd23's Avatar
    So for your comparison about how "overpriced" the Z10 is, you match its "on sale" price against a bunch of phones that came out 1 to 2 years ago. the only "new" phone you list is the Glaxey S4 which is 2000 MRP less. Not a big difference if you ask me. And I noticed you did not have any Iphones listed....,why not?
    I did not compare iphone or windows phone cause I ddnt buy 1 honestly and so I'm not completely aware of all the features .
    And if you see that all those phones a year back at the time of their launch were also not as expensive as the Z10 is today. And for hardware which was introduced by other manufacturers a year back why is the Z10 so expensive today.
    And the GS4 has better hardware and still its priced lower and with such high price india's share of BlackBerry is decreasing. Why wud any1 buy the same old hardware in a new body.
    I'm not saying the phone is bad its just not selling in india because of its High Price.


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    04-30-13 09:37 AM
  17. bbranny's Avatar
    that's why this forum going downhill. Someone comes in complaining about the price of z10 not being competitive and instantly get attack by BB fanatic.

    If the OP changed his title to galaxy or iphone being a rip off people in here would jump in joy. They would call iphone and galaxy users sheep and mindless for buying an expensive phone because they could had gotten a cheaper z10 and its 1000000x better.

    maybe people should open their mind and understand how the market work. bb name is tarnish. they can't be the most expensive phone in the bunch and expect people to buy it. the price got to be competitive or cheaper to attach buyers.
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    04-30-13 09:42 AM
  18. hvd23's Avatar
    Pity you did not include the Apple iPhone 5 in that list, which I believe sells for MORE than the Z10 in India.

    Several discussions have been created here about this over the past 2 months or so, opinions of Indian users seem to vary widely about whether the device is too expensive or not.

    Luckily in your country the price of the service is much lower than it is here. In the USA and many other countries, the device price is lower because it is being subsidized by a carrier contract, along with much higher monthly service prices.
    I have not included iphone and windows phones because honestly I'm not complete aware of their features and flaws and i made the switch from Android GS2 to BlackBerry Z10.
    But you have to admit that to pay such a high price meaning to buy the phone outright is a PINCH.
    And yes Z10 has the best on screen keyboard no doubt but is it worth or enough to buy it at this price.
    Btw Samsung has come up with 0% interest on 6 and 12 month EMI for GS4/GS3 / Galaxy Grand and many others and 15 % cash back (except GS4).


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    04-30-13 09:44 AM
  19. benedict gomes's Avatar
    I stay in india and have used BlackBerrys since pearl and used all of the phones till z 10.
    I would say I bought it because I love it.. If you can't afford it please do not buy it,

    As I see you don't seem to be a BlackBerry lover. Just move on and get a cheap phone.


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    04-30-13 09:52 AM
  20. Blacklatino's Avatar
    In India the BlackBerry Z10 is overpriced .
    Hardware comparison Only.
    Is this phone meant for hardcore BlackBerry fans only, who will buy only out of love and loyalty but is this enough to attract new customers.
    This thread is not intended to offend anyone in anyway.
    Is it worth buying for a slightly higher ppi n 2 GB ram

    1.Samsung Galaxy S2 MRP 32000/- price at launch April 2011[best price 18000/-]
    1.2 Dual Core/217 ppi/1650 mAh battery/8 MP/ GPU Mali 400/4.3 inch display/1gb ram

    2.Nokia Lumia MRP 39000/-[best price 33,990\-]with wireless charging. Announced 2012 September
    1.5 Dual core krait/332 ppi/2000 mAh battery/8 MP/GPUAdreno 225/4.5 inch display.

    3.Blackberry Z10 MRP 43,500/- price at launch Feb. 2013[best price 42,500]
    1.5 Dual core krait/355 ppi/1800 mAh battery/8 MP/GPU Adreno 225/4.2 inch display/2gb ram

    4.Samsung Galaxy Cricket 20,600/- price at launch. nov 2012
    1.5 dual core krait/306 ppi/2100 mAh battery/8 MP/GPU Adreno 225/4.8 inch display/2gb ram

    5.Samsung S3 MRP 36,500/- Price at launch 2012 May[best buy 2012 Oct. 28,000/-][2013 jan 26500/-]
    1.4 Quad core/306 ppi/2100 mAh/8 MP/GPU Mali 400/4.8 inch display

    6. Samsung S4 MRP. 41,500/- price at launch. March 2013
    1.6 Quad core & 1.2 Quad core/441 ppi/ 2600 mAh/ 13 MP/ GPU PowerVR SGX 544MP3 / 5.0 inch display.


    Posted via CB10
    I don't know if the prices in India are more expensive than other countries, but, "you pay for what you get......and you don't get what you don't pay for". Point being, you knew the price before your purchase and Blackberries are not for everyone.

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    04-30-13 09:53 AM
  21. hvd23's Avatar
    I went to have brain surgery. The doctor wanted to charge me $72000.00. I told him the scalpel cost $20 and that is all I'm going to pay. Maybe because I haven't had the surgery is why I think the OP is confused?
    I see your point and I respect it but what if you had 10 surgeons being able to operate assuming they had same skill set - would you go the most popular(means having the best reputation) if he were to be less expensive as well.
    And I'm not comparing the hardware based on the Manufacturing cost, I'm just comparing them with the market price and the launch price against the hardware offered.


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    04-30-13 09:56 AM
  22. hvd23's Avatar
    I f you think it's a "total ripoff" then don't buy one! It's really that simple. I am so tired of threads like this.
    Sry for the inconvenience caused but your not forced to read or post when you come across such threads.


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    04-30-13 10:00 AM
  23. Bbnivende's Avatar
    Very few top end phones are sold in India relative to the size of the market. The main issue for BB in India is the price /features of their BB7-BIS models vs other starter smartphones from local manufacturers or Samsung/Nokia. Does OP know whether BB can compete on cheap data plans and BBM using low featured Curve models for the next year or so?
    04-30-13 10:04 AM
  24. BB10fanatic's Avatar
    The BBRY strategy seems to be more parallel to Apple than to Google. High end devices, but with a smattering of low end later on. It would make sense. Nokia is suffering because they are trying to do everything. Google isn't suffering because everything at this point is the proliferation of their OS. In the long run I don't want an advertising company owning my OS.....scary thought. At least Microsoft just rapes you upfront and periodically, not continual blood letting.

    BBRY wants the professional market, they think it's large enough. I don't know how many Iphones sell where you are, but I wouldn't be surprised if BBRY would be happy to just match their sales rather than have the market share that they used to have. They don't have the product portfolio to appeal low cost users, and they don't want divergent strategies like Nokia, with their Asha/Lumia.

    If they get enough traction they will succeed. I'm succumbing to a bit of the local news, and the very fallible measure of stock price, but they are being rewarded for their choices. It is too early to tell.
    richardat likes this.
    04-30-13 10:05 AM
  25. Bbnivende's Avatar
    The BBRY strategy seems to be more parallel to Apple than to Google. High end devices, but with a smattering of low end later on. It would make sense. Nokia is suffering because they are trying to do everything. Google isn't suffering because everything at this point is the proliferation of their OS. In the long run I don't want an advertising company owning my OS.....scary thought. At least Microsoft just rapes you upfront and periodically, not continual blood letting.

    BBRY wants the professional market, they think it's large enough. I don't know how many Iphones sell where you are, but I wouldn't be surprised if BBRY would be happy to just match their sales rather than have the market share that they used to have. They don't have the product portfolio to appeal low cost users, and they don't want divergent strategies like Nokia, with their Asha/Lumia.

    If they get enough traction they will succeed. I'm succumbing to a bit of the local news, and the very fallible measure of stock price, but they are being rewarded for their choices. It is too early to tell.
    I think that BB is relying on BB7 -- in other words the Nokia strategy.

    BlackBerry Looking to Launch Refreshed BB7 Devices as CEO Thorsten Heins Claims
    04-30-13 10:11 AM
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