1. Homo Erectus's Avatar
    06-29-12 06:09 PM
  2. polytope's Avatar
    I don't see much hope in the article.
    06-29-12 06:14 PM
  3. njblackberry's Avatar
    Eventually it will bottom out and someone will buy it.
    Hope indeed.
    06-29-12 06:14 PM
  4. johnenglish's Avatar
    Eventually it will bottom out and someone will buy it.
    Hope indeed.
    LOL seriously. His hope for RIM is that it'll get cheap enough for someone to take them out. I'd hate to see what he thinks a "no hope" situation is.
    06-29-12 06:18 PM
  5. silversun10's Avatar
    if this is the most positive analyst ouch:
    ""So there is a certain amount of value, unfortunately, I think the value is less than the market cap that its trading at right now.""
    06-29-12 06:18 PM
  6. app_Developer's Avatar
    So there's hope for our dying horse because we think someone will come along eventually to put him down? But only after he gets a lot worse.

    That's basically the hopeful "strategic buyer" option.
    06-29-12 06:19 PM
  7. berklon's Avatar
    Other than the patents (assuming they're decent, I don't know what they cover), RIM has nothing that companies want to buy.

    RIM is failing gloriously WITH these "assets" as it is. Why would a company spend for those assets when they're useless to even RIM?
    06-29-12 06:25 PM
  8. johnenglish's Avatar
    So there's hope for our dying horse because we think someone will come along eventually to put him down? But only after he gets a lot worse.

    That's basically the hopeful "strategic buyer" option.
    More like "I'm sorry your son is dying but hey at least you can sell his organs on the black market."
    06-29-12 06:26 PM
  9. jd914's Avatar
    anytime someone posts a negative article that an analyst writes, it's blown off as "it's an analyst what does he know?" What makes this article any different?
    06-29-12 06:31 PM
  10. njblackberry's Avatar
    That tone seems to have changed in the last day or so as the truth about RIM's condition and misleading statements (easier that saying "they lied to your face") and the True Believers realized they have been taken for a ride.
    06-29-12 06:34 PM
  11. katiepea's Avatar
    REUTERS is saying their sources are telling them the board is only considering a partnership or a split/sale of the company and don't seem to be considering even launching bb10. really though, that pretty much sounds like what a lot of people said would happen a year ago, meaning, bb10 never comes out. it's not like it wasn't predicted by many. honestly this to me is the most likely scenario, just my opinion, but i really really really don't think bb10 will ever come out.

    article:


    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Research In Motion Ltd's board is under mounting pressure to consider unpalatable options such as selling its network business or forming an alliance with Microsoft Corp after the Blackberry maker again delayed the release of its next-generation smartphones, said three sources familiar with the situation.
    Shares in the Canadian company, which announced a steeper-than-expected quarterly operating loss on Thursday, plunged 18 percent in extended trading, slashing its market value to $4.1 billion. The stock has fallen about 70 percent in the past year.
    RIM said the launch of BlackBerry 10 mobile devices has been postponed to early 2013 - more than a year later than initially promised - because the development of its new operating system had "proven to be more time-consuming than anticipated."
    The latest setback has increased pressure on RIM's board to more seriously explore other options, including measures that would amount to an admission that it cannot survive by sticking to its current strategy, said the sources, who declined to be identified because the information was confidential.
    One of these options is for RIM to abandon its own operating system and adopt Microsoft's upcoming Windows 8. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer had approached RIM in recent months, looking to strike a partnership similar to the one the software giant has with Nokia Oyj, the sources said. Under that partnership, Nokia will use Microsoft's latest Windows operating system on its smartphones.
    In such a scenario, RIM could also look for Microsoft to buy a stake in the company and fund marketing and other expenses, the sources said. However, this option is not attractive to RIM because it would mean the end of the Waterloo, Ontario-based company's technology independence, they said.
    The RIM board prefers to see through the efforts to develop the new BlackBerry 10 operating system, according to the sources.
    Microsoft could also be interested in RIM's wireless patents, the sources said.
    RIM and Microsoft declined to comment.
    Another option for RIM would be to sell its proprietary network to a private equity firm or a technology company. The buyer could then open up RIM's network operating centers to other smartphone providers, allowing them to also provide highly secured emails and other services to companies and government agencies, the sources said.
    In that scenario, however, RIM's device business is seen to have no future, they said, adding that private equity firms have been considering how to separate the hardware business from the network business.
    RIM has in the past considered opening up its network to rivals, under a plan led by former co-CEO Jim Balsillie. That could offer RIM a way forward as demand for its BlackBerry phones faces fierce competition from Apple Inc's iPhone and Google Inc's Android phones.
    The idea would be to clearly define the network as an asset that could exist without BlackBerry handsets - an operational precursor that could have led to a possible legal split if the handset business ultimately proved untenable.
    RIM is "going to have to be much more open minded to the idea that Jim Balsillie was working on before he was ousted of opening their network to third parties," said Eric Jackson, a hedge fund manager at Ironfire Capital in Toronto.
    06-29-12 06:37 PM
  12. silversun10's Avatar
    anytime someone posts a negative article that an analyst writes, it's blown off as "it's an analyst what does he know?" What makes this article any different?
    the headline of this thread suggests a positive opinion by an analyst, whereas in reality he is not optimistic at all, so here the criticism is directed at the poster who arguably misread the article.......
    06-29-12 06:56 PM
  13. maddie1128's Avatar
    REUTERS is saying their sources are telling them the board is only considering a partnership or a split/sale of the company and don't seem to be considering even launching bb10. really though, that pretty much sounds like what a lot of people said would happen a year ago, meaning, bb10 never comes out. it's not like it wasn't predicted by many. honestly this to me is the most likely scenario, just my opinion, but i really really really don't think bb10 will ever come out.

    article:


    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Research In Motion Ltd's board is under mounting pressure to consider unpalatable options such as selling its network business or forming an alliance with Microsoft Corp after the Blackberry maker again delayed the release of its next-generation smartphones, said three sources familiar with the situation.
    Shares in the Canadian company, which announced a steeper-than-expected quarterly operating loss on Thursday, plunged 18 percent in extended trading, slashing its market value to $4.1 billion. The stock has fallen about 70 percent in the past year.
    RIM said the launch of BlackBerry 10 mobile devices has been postponed to early 2013 - more than a year later than initially promised - because the development of its new operating system had "proven to be more time-consuming than anticipated."
    The latest setback has increased pressure on RIM's board to more seriously explore other options, including measures that would amount to an admission that it cannot survive by sticking to its current strategy, said the sources, who declined to be identified because the information was confidential.
    One of these options is for RIM to abandon its own operating system and adopt Microsoft's upcoming Windows 8. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer had approached RIM in recent months, looking to strike a partnership similar to the one the software giant has with Nokia Oyj, the sources said. Under that partnership, Nokia will use Microsoft's latest Windows operating system on its smartphones.
    In such a scenario, RIM could also look for Microsoft to buy a stake in the company and fund marketing and other expenses, the sources said. However, this option is not attractive to RIM because it would mean the end of the Waterloo, Ontario-based company's technology independence, they said.
    The RIM board prefers to see through the efforts to develop the new BlackBerry 10 operating system, according to the sources.
    Microsoft could also be interested in RIM's wireless patents, the sources said.
    RIM and Microsoft declined to comment.
    Another option for RIM would be to sell its proprietary network to a private equity firm or a technology company. The buyer could then open up RIM's network operating centers to other smartphone providers, allowing them to also provide highly secured emails and other services to companies and government agencies, the sources said.
    In that scenario, however, RIM's device business is seen to have no future, they said, adding that private equity firms have been considering how to separate the hardware business from the network business.
    RIM has in the past considered opening up its network to rivals, under a plan led by former co-CEO Jim Balsillie. That could offer RIM a way forward as demand for its BlackBerry phones faces fierce competition from Apple Inc's iPhone and Google Inc's Android phones.
    The idea would be to clearly define the network as an asset that could exist without BlackBerry handsets - an operational precursor that could have led to a possible legal split if the handset business ultimately proved untenable.
    RIM is "going to have to be much more open minded to the idea that Jim Balsillie was working on before he was ousted of opening their network to third parties," said Eric Jackson, a hedge fund manager at Ironfire Capital in Toronto.
    Like we really anticipated anything uplifting coming from YOU!
    06-29-12 07:02 PM
  14. jd914's Avatar
    Like we really anticipated anything uplifting coming from YOU!
    Instead of honesty, would you rather have someone lie to you? Oh wait....
    06-29-12 07:05 PM
  15. maddie1128's Avatar
    Instead of honesty, would you rather have someone lie to you? Oh wait....
    I don't mind honesty. I DO mind people gloating over every bit of negativity if it involves RIM. Especially people who have moved on to other platforms yet hound the forums here and put in their negative 2 cents over and over. Get a life and move on already. You don't see me in iMore or Android Central doing that!!!!
    06-29-12 07:19 PM
  16. ADozenEggs@aol.com's Avatar
    Instead of honesty, would you rather have someone lie to you? Oh wait....
    Nope! Many here have been too busy lying to themselves.
    06-29-12 07:20 PM
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