NY Times Article: Lackluster Start for BlackBerry�s New Phone in Canada
- Please educate this writer too: The Sad Reality of BlackBerry 10: Not Even Canada Really Wants It - Yahoo! News02-06-13 12:01 PMLike 0
- Please educate this writer too: The Sad Reality of BlackBerry 10: Not Even Canada Really Wants It - Yahoo! News02-06-13 12:10 PMLike 0
- Carriers have had plenty of time to gauge demand through pre-orders and every store I went to yesterday sold 20-30 units. Just talk to someone behind this desk and they will tell you.02-06-13 12:16 PMLike 0
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That's huge imho.02-06-13 12:21 PMLike 0 - I didn't pre-order and walked into my local Rogers store around 10 am and picked up a phone no problem. However after just one day there is a very serious issue concerning the ability to sync contacts and calendar in MS Outlook. You can't!!! If you google this or go into the BB forums you'll see a lot of frustrated people and Blackberry isn't responding. It appears you have to have a Gmail, Hotmail or some other sort of email account and then you have to transfer your contacts and calendar events to those accounts in order for you to import and sync with the BB 10. Most business users (I am one of them) keep all contacts and appointments on our desk top in Outlook. The ease that this was accomplished in all previous versions of BB is why most business users adopted the platform. I contacted Rogers technical support and they confirmed that it can't be done and yes they know that it is an issue. I went back to the store to inform the person I dealt with that they had given me several incorrect answers to my questions. 1) BB 10 will not work with BB Desktop.....you must download and use BB Link 2) BB Protect will not work with the BB 10, you must set up a new account for BB 10 which means all the data you save to BB protect from your previous phone is useless 3) Most importantly is it will not work with MS Outlook. While I was back at the store I witnessed several frustrated people coming back in and returning thiere BB 10's because of this last issue. Out in the social media you can see many stories regarding people returning thier phones. My advice to BB is to end the silence, confront the issue and get it fixed or risk thier loyal base of business users.02-06-13 12:26 PMLike 0
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- I have been talking with Ian about this story and apparently he did not write the headline, an editor at New York Times took it upon himself to do so. Does not change the body of the message but interesting to see what they do at New York Times, don't they ever learn from their last try at bashing Blackberry?
Edit: Ok, apparently it was the tech editor who wrote the headline.
Kevin, you might want to contact Ian for his next article on Z10 user feedback, better you(Kevin) than some yahooo at BRG.
Can somebody send this to Kevin?
Ian Austen
The New York Times
Canada
[email protected]
t 613 236 0621
m 613 293 568502-06-13 12:55 PMLike 0 - A day off work and to get the BlackBerry in their hands as soon as physically possible is my bet. Lots have been waiting a long time for this.02-06-13 12:56 PMLike 0
- The editor is responsible for getting traffic. It's pretty clear that if he's going to proclaim "Lackluster start in Canada" and then attach an article that says, "This store, in this one mall, in this one city" as is proof for the entire country, he's just looking for hits.
Best to make your enemy your friend at times, or in a lighter sense inform those not informed.02-06-13 01:11 PMLike 0 - Loved a comment on that article, from AM 570 radio: "Of course there weren't any lineups like there were for the iPhone because BlackBerry users have jobs."
Enyigma and BlackStormRising like this.02-06-13 01:17 PMLike 2 - That is B.S and this thread proves it.
Also, I think NY Times is expecting something like an iPhone release?
We aren't that idiotic to stand in a line for that long.
When I called Fido, they had a voice message (before your options) that recommend customers to order their Z10 quickly because their entire Fido stock (not just one store location) was getting really low - that was around 2-3 pm yesterday. Given that Fido is only a small subsidiary carrier, it says volumes how well Canadians are embracing the new BB device.
For me, I switched over to Rogers because they offered a better package. I also got my black Z10 with the $139.99 fee waivered! Yeah!02-06-13 01:24 PMLike 0 - Funny, I thought that thread verified what the NY times is saying. A few tiny lines (apparently containing RIM employees), no real buzz, and apparently, barely any stock - an attempt to manufacture an artificial sell-out.
Well eventually we may know the real numbers. If there are truly great numbers, we probably won't have to wait long...If RIM sold impressive numbers, they will trumpet it immediately (they'd be stupid not to!!)
To all the people arguing variations on : we Canadians pre-order, get shipment to our houses, won't stand in line, etc. I remind you that even were that true, it does not mean sales have been successful, only that we would then not know whether they have been. In a similar vein, a "sell-out" means nothing either, until we know how many were available.
I can't be the only one - even here - who is getting a bad feeling/impression about today's sales!! Oh well, let's hope for the best I suppose! I suggest we keep our heads though ladies and gents.
1) BB10 phones were in stores at the beginning but not the end of the day; and
2) iPhones and Androids were available both at the begin and the end of the day.
Clearly, this is bad for Blackberry.02-06-13 01:50 PMLike 0 - Yesterday's Canada BlackBerry Z10 launch was the biggest ever for BlackBerry | CrackBerry.com
This news puts the naysayers ill informed articles to rest pronto.02-06-13 03:08 PMLike 0 - I think this person has a point. There are only two things we know for certain about yesterday. They are:
1) BB10 phones were in stores at the beginning but not the end of the day; and
2) iPhones and Androids were available both at the begin and the end of the day.
Clearly, this is bad for Blackberry.02-06-13 03:15 PMLike 0 - Incorrect. Clearly it is ambiguous. It may be good or bad depending on how many phones were available. If your reasoning is this simplistic, there is little more to say: it doesn't get any more basic than this. Irregardless, I'm glad you have so clearly delineated your reasoning.TomJasper likes this.02-06-13 03:31 PMLike 1
- Please educate this writer too: The Sad Reality of BlackBerry 10: Not Even Canada Really Wants It - Yahoo! News
I think it's going to take a lot more than 70,000 apps to bump that number back up to a respectable 10%.02-06-13 03:51 PMLike 0 -
Not a chance. the loudest, nastiest, more sneering comments I've ever heard about RIM about been from Canadians and Canadian media. We love to kick at our own. Cheering for our own is not in the Canadian mantraBlackStormRising likes this.02-06-13 03:53 PMLike 1 - Koodo kiosk in my mall sold out. They had 5 handsets on launch day and were selling for $550 outright. They may not receive any more for another week, and I don't expect them to get more than 5 in their next shipment.02-06-13 04:00 PMLike 0
- A lot of America writers seem to assume Canadians are as patriotic about Canadian goods as Americans are about American goods.
Not a chance. the loudest, nastiest, more sneering comments I've ever heard about RIM about been from Canadians and Canadian media. We love to kick at our own. Cheering for our own is not in the Canadian mantra
But to be fair, that only happened once, and most people are more likely to ask where I got the tablet and how much did it cost etc.02-06-13 04:13 PMLike 0 - Ahh... No.. If you are running exchange you can run BDS 10 or active sync and sync everything wirelessly.
What mail server is your outlook connecting to?
Its been quite awhile since i saw a company using something outher then office 365, gmail or onsite exchange services.
And i have never come across someone using outlook to sync their contacts etc to their phone directly.02-06-13 05:28 PMLike 0 -
I spoke with a costco guy that sells phones for multiple carriers. He said sales were incredible... Black was sold out but not white.
I went to a few carrier outlets near work at lunchtime and each one had 6-10 people checking out the Z10 phones. Normally these stores are emtpy at that time.
Other news, i work for a large government agency.. ($300M IT budget) and management already agreed to get BES10 and upgrade devices to BB10 starting this spring. We have about a thousand BBs issued. It was a close call as we were about to begin BYOD initiative.
Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk02-06-13 05:32 PMLike 0 - Yes. There is, as I've already pointed out. It is incorrect to conclude that selling all stock of BB's (assuming that it is true) is a "good" thing for BB. It is not. It is, again, ambiguous. We cannot make a judgment on it until we see the numbers. Sales are not "icing on the cake", and I trust the vast majority on this forum can at least acknowledge that. We do not want ANY sales, we need a "good" quantity of sales, if we do not get a "good" quantity, this is a bad thing for BB.
No. This is yet another lie. It is quite clearly in not compatible with either my first post ie. "To all the people arguing variations on : we Canadians pre-order, get shipment to our houses, won't stand in line, etc. I remind you that even were that true, it does not mean sales have been successful, only that we would then not know whether they have been. In a similar vein, a "sell-out" means nothing either, until we know how many were available., or my second post: Clearly it is ambiguous. It may be good or bad depending on how many phones were available
No. You did not. You stated premises that were NOT mine. Then dishonestly asserted they were mine, and that you agree. Then you reached a conclusion that was clearly at odds with my actual premise.
It doesn't matter if people like me, or like you, or agree with me, or agree with you; when you blatantly misrepresent about what other people said, in a silly attempt to get them mad (oooh), the enduring impression of people who read this (especially non-members) will be that CB is full of childish, stupid, and silly people.mikeo007 likes this.02-06-13 06:20 PMLike 1 - 02-06-13 06:33 PMLike 1
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