[Bla1ze]

Oh another one of these threads.... cool. lol

[Uzi]

This z30 with google play pre-installed

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[Uzi]

And Z10 with google play

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[ArtilesGabriel]

And Z10 with google play

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haha, a fake one. Cool....... Awesome.....

A BIG NO..!!! hahaha

[Omnitech]

I do not like the fact that I have to side load snap to start downloading apk's. This is probably the reason why I'll never use snap. I don't want to have to side load ever again in my life.

The reason that this will be the case with an app like Snap, which is beyond the developer's control, is that Blackberry will not approve an app for distribution via BlackBerry World that competes with BlackBerry World, as Google Play does. This is because BlackBerry World is a substantial source of revenue for BlackBerry, and if its users all started getting apps elsewhere, it would have a substantial negative impact on the company, even endanger their existence.

However right now BlackBerry is hedging their bets on this point - not only do they not want to endanger BlackBerry World revenue, they also want to offer "power users" a way to get apps from a different source to fill out some of the missing apps available in their native store. So while they will not officially sanction such an alternative app store, they will "tacitly" sanction it by not legally threatening the creator of such apps since, among other things, the recent leaked builds of OS 10.2.1 clearly have made it easier to load Android apps directly, making it clear that there is no universal corporate aversion to its users installing limited external Android apps on BB10 devices.

But this is mostly an overture to "power users", who make up a relatively small percentage of their overall userbase. And generally speaking, power users don't mind sideloading one app. Especially when there is plenty of evidence about how useful and stable this app is.

[Espada04]

The question shouldn't be will Google allow Blackberry access to the Play Store. Its would Blackberry even want Blackberry users access to the Google Play Store.

IF the Android runtime runs flawlessly and Blackberry adheres to the Play Store's requirements, Google stands to gain the most by doing absolutely nothing. Being able to profit from a platform they did not spend money on developing. All they'd have to do is put disclaimers such as "Apps have not been tested on the Blackberry platform and may experience unexpected results." or something along that line to cover themselves from any legal issues that might arise.

Blackberry would then start losing revenue originally generated by users buying apps in the App World as those revenue have now been diverted towards Google and the Play Store. (Snap is actually the perfect example for this scenario since its already happening on these forums. A new user joins the forum, says they have just purchased a new Blackberry device. The immediate response from the community is. "Download and install leak 1925 and side load Snap so you can download Android apps on your Blackberry!"). Developers no longer see a reason to publish on the Blackberry App World since Blackberry openly allows Google Play Store. They can kill 2 birds with one stone and save on development cost by developing solely on Android while Blackberry users can still benefit from their development. Eventually Blackberry 10 OS will be regarded by normal users as just another Android phone even though it's not even running Android.

Also FYI, Google makes little to no money on Android. They gain some of it back from App sales. But everyone knows where their main source of revenue comes from. Blackberry officially opening doors for Google Play store would benefit Google more than it would Blackberry.


This scenario is how I think might happen if Blackberry decides to officially support and include access to the Google Play store.


Blackberry developed the Android runtime so Android developers can release their apps on the Blackberry App World so Blackberry users can benefit from Android apps as well. As well as make some money on Android apps when people buy them from the App World. Downloading apps from sources outside of the App World does not encourage supporting Blackberry as its taking away potential revenue from the App World itself

[garrett1972]

The question shouldn't be will Google allow Blackberry access to the Play Store. Its would Blackberry even want Blackberry users access to the Google Play Store.

IF the Android runtime runs flawlessly and Blackberry adheres to the Play Store's requirements, Google stands to gain the most by doing absolutely nothing. Being able to profit from a platform they did not spend money on developing. All they'd have to do is put disclaimers such as "Apps have not been tested on the Blackberry platform and may experience unexpected results." or something along that line to cover themselves from any legal issues that might arise.

Blackberry would then start losing revenue originally generated by users buying apps in the App World as those revenue have now been diverted towards Google and the Play Store. (Snap is actually the perfect example for this scenario since its already happening on these forums. A new user joins the forum, says they have just purchased a new Blackberry device. The immediate response from the community is. "Download and install leak 1925 and side load Snap so you can download Android apps on your Blackberry!"). Developers no longer see a reason to publish on the Blackberry App World since Blackberry openly allows Google Play Store. They can kill 2 birds with one stone and save on development cost by developing solely on Android while Blackberry users can still benefit from their development. Eventually Blackberry 10 OS will be regarded by normal users as just another Android phone even though it's not even running Android.

Also FYI, Google makes little to no money on Android. They gain some of it back from App sales. But everyone knows where their main source of revenue comes from. Blackberry officially opening doors for Google Play store would benefit Google more than it would Blackberry.


This scenario is how I think might happen if Blackberry decides to officially support and include access to the Google Play store.


Blackberry developed the Android runtime so Android developers can release their apps on the Blackberry App World so Blackberry users can benefit from Android apps as well. As well as make some money on Android apps when people buy them from the App World. Downloading apps from sources outside of the App World does not encourage supporting Blackberry as its taking away potential revenue from the App World itself

To this I ask, why is Amazon app store allowed? Doesn't the same argument apply?

But it works nearly flawless now on the current leak...

Why not Google Play?

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[maxb1ack]

once again: testing costs $40,000, payable 50% up front and 50% at the completion of testing for a model with an expected run of at least 30,000 units.

at 0.75$ per device for PlaySevices.... I'm sure BlackBerry has better way to spend money ...

Why Google Android software is not as free or open-source as you may think | Technology | theguardian.com

[rocah360]

To this I ask, why is Amazon app store allowed? Doesn't the same argument apply?

But it works nearly flawless now on the current leak...

Why not Google Play?

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Google Play would work also flawlessly but is blacklisted in the runtime, probably because of licensing issues. Also, play store is a much bigger threat to blackberry world than amazon app store or 1mobile. Amazon said that BlackBerry users are welcome to use it, so there is definitly no problem of copyright stuff

[NursingNinja]

I don't think that they will put the actual Google Play as we know it and see it. Eventually we will get a database of approved android apps added to blackberry world via some kind of add on that doesn't put them in blackberry world.

They will just link to it. So you will open it up and see a sticky link that says Google Play for example. Then you will go to a mock blackberry world with only android apps after accepting some kind of agreement or disabling a protection. All the apps there will work with the BB10 so there will be no guesswork.

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[NursingNinja]

I don't think this will happen until a blackberry world upgrade.

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[Espada04]

To this I ask, why is Amazon app store allowed? Doesn't the same argument apply?

But it works nearly flawless now on the current leak...

Why not Google Play?

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No it's a little different. There are no rules or requirements to comply to to have access to the Amazon App Store or 1Mobile. Compared to the Google Play Store which requires you to obtain the CTS certification before Google allows you access to the Play Store and that process cost money.

Why Amazon App World works and Google Play Store does not is because Blackberry isn't going to spend money to make it's device compatible with the Play Store when they already have their own App World to maintain. Not a lot of people will know to go to go those places to download Android Apps anyway. Most of the ones that do probably got their recommendation from coming here. Which is ironic. They come to Blackberry only to be recommended to go to an Android App store for their App needs on a Blackberry device.

[Omnitech]

No it's a little different. There are no rules or requirements to comply to to have access to the Amazon App Store or 1Mobile. Compared to the Google Play Store which requires you to obtain the CTS certification before Google allows you access to the Play Store and that process cost money.

That's true, but Google Play's biggest threat to the platform is sucking revenue away from the BlackBerry ecosystem.

Most people hardly even know 1Mobile or Amazon app store exists. Google Play is the Big Kahuna.

Not just because it is the default Android app store and the largest app store in the world, but because of how Google entwines their tentacles all throughout an Android device when you have their frameworks and store and other apps enabled on it.

Personally I want NOTHING to do with the Google Frameworks on my Blackberry. In fact, if it were installed by default I would very seriously consider switching platforms.

One of the absolute top reasons I use BlackBerry smartphones and not Android is specifically because I want nothing to do with Google's data vacuuming business model.

The only way I would own an Android smartphone is if it is rooted and all the Google BS is stripped-out except the core OS. (ie Cyanogen Mod)