- I have long been an avid Blackberry user and fan. I can't remember the model of my first BB but I remember that it had the scroll wheel on the side. It served me well until my son used it as a boat in the tub. Since that one I used a multitude of models including the 9000, 9700, 9780, 9800, and the 9810. Throughout the years I strayed away and tried everything form a Nokia N9, to various Samsung Android offerings and numerous iPhone Models. For whatever reason though I never felt"comfortable" with anything other than a Blackberry. There is something, at least to me, about a Blackberry and how I feel about using it compared to ther makes and models. I think a real testament to BB though is that I currently own a Z10 and a Q10 and still feel the same comfortability with them despite the new OS. Especially with the Q10. I don't know how that translates to attracting new users though. I believe that Samsung can do whatever to their phones, they still feel extremely cheaply built to me. Apple can increase their sizes but they still have the same tired and old locked down OS. I strongly believe that to increase their user base, at least here in the US, Blackberry needs to increase their marketing.01-24-14 10:02 AMLike 0
- You don't have to settle with a z30, that's the great thing about choice you can get any device and os you want.
I for one got my z30 for $350 less then it would have cost me to get a 5s, it has NFC, can be used as a USB drive, I can hook up a USB mouse/keyboard, micro-hdmi connection, mobile standards like miracast/dlna and so much more the 5s(or my ip 5) don't have and can't do, that is value to me and I am a customer. In the end it's still my preference.
BlackBerry on the other hand is also not a component and electronics manufacturer there for it cost them more to purchase parts and built phones then it does companies like samsung, LG, Sony, etc. Both Apple and Microsoft use what hardware fits there os, and BlackBerry chooses to so the same, no need to waste money were it's not needed, common business practice.
Z30 - The Final Destination - Winnipeg Mb Clothing|Footwear|Headwear|Headshop|Tobacconist|Ta ttoos01-24-14 10:08 AMLike 0 - Well Jason9900 obviously you never used the z30 and totally underestimate it's capabilities. You portray same old stereotypical thoughts as most. The hardware combined with the Bb10 os is what drives this device extremely efficient. It takes a combination if both! Wake up and smell the coffee. We have family members with iphones, ipads and the z30 destroys them except for a few apps like instagram and Netflix. PS they never use their phones for Netflix. No HDMI out. Anyhow you don't know what you are talking about.
Posted via CB10SDTRMG likes this.01-24-14 10:11 AMLike 1 - I could not have put it better. The iphone is a pokey little device that people buy because they are brainwashed by the media. Don't hand your Samsung to somebody to look at something because sure as heck they will touch something that will eliminate the screen. Blackberry be proud of your Z30 it is a really good product.01-24-14 10:28 AMLike 0
- Once the Z30 gets the ability to run android apps it will be in competition with other android phones. They need to decrease the price to compete with the Nexus 5.
I find it odd that the sales price has such an impact. It appears that I can run a iPhone 5s for only $4.16 more a month on a 24 month term.
BB should load up the Z30 with free memory as a sales feature. Maybe offer a free case too.
We can agree that there is no competition for the Q10 right now. BlackBerry would have been much more successful if the
Device had a 4 inch screen.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using CB Forums mobile app01-24-14 11:03 AMLike 0 - I could not have put it better. The iphone is a pokey little device that people buy because they are brainwashed by the media. Don't hand your Samsung to somebody to look at something because sure as heck they will touch something that will eliminate the screen. Blackberry be proud of your Z30 it is a really good product.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using CB Forums mobile appbbq10l likes this.01-24-14 11:08 AMLike 1 - I think that the only way an iPhone can be a threat to a Blackberry is if you have never USED a blackberry. I mean that as a joke and for real. My niece has an iPhone 5s and I just introduced her to BBM and she loves it. She said "I wish BB had a full touch screen phone" I just laughed and pulled up the website to show her the Z10 and Z30 (since I have a Bold 9900) and explained how they both have larger screens, better flow and all around TRUMP her iPhone 5s. She said "Wow, but I still need my apps and BB doesn't have any apps" I said who lied to you, then I said which apps do you NEED. she said "All of them". At that I just stopped talking because I realized now what an iSheep looks like in person. They have no real understanding of what their phone can do or other phones and simple buy because of Apples phenomenal marketing campaigns.
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Aspiring Entrepreneurs visit Channel C001CAE7501-24-14 11:19 AMLike 2 - I think that the only way an iPhone can be a threat to a Blackberry is if you have never USED a blackberry. I mean that as a joke and for real. My niece has an iPhone 5s and I just introduced her to BBM and she loves it. She said "I wish BB had a full touch screen phone" I just laughed and pulled up the website to show her the Z10 and Z30 (since I have a Bold 9900) and explained how they both have larger screens, better flow and all around TRUMP her iPhone 5s. She said "Wow, but I still need my apps and BB doesn't have any apps" I said who lied to you, then I said which apps do you NEED. she said "All of them". At that I just stopped talking because I realized now what an iSheep looks like in person. They have no real understanding of what their phone can do or other phones and simple buy because of Apples phenomenal marketing campaigns.
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Sent from my Nexus 7 using CB Forums mobile app01-24-14 11:29 AMLike 0 - You obviously didn't understand what I was saying then.
The "I" in my rhetorical question, was the "I" of the general consumer.
Why should a consumer want to settle with a Z30, for the non-discounted price?
Apparently, these are mostly things that at least 99.8% (0.5 being BB10's share of the phones sold last year. Since we don't know exactly how much the Z30 sold, I gave it a 0.2% share) of the consumers don't care about enough to go with a Z30.
Of course, yes, these are your preferences.
We can make the observation, that most consumers either don't share them, or think that Android/iOS/WP satisfies their needs even better.
The USB host mode and the keyboard/mouse thing, isn't exclusive to BB10. Android knows how to do that as well, for example.
Under that premise, I still fail to see what's so incredibly enticing about BB10, for everyone who doesn't already have a phone with the OS.
Btw, a Z30 would cost me sightly less than an iPhone 5s and slightly more than a Note 3.
Obviously, I didn't upgrade from my Z10.
You are completely wrong about MS here.
With Nokia's newest offerings, they officially joined the spec race.
They now employ 2GB of RAM, 1080p displays, quadcore CPUs and the newest Adreno 330 GPU.
So yeah, that point rather backfired.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_1520-5760.php
Apple is Apple, and they still excel in certain spec categories.
A 64 bit processor, a marketleading GPU and a fingerprint sensor for example.
Where you are correct, is that BlackBerry isn't like Samsung, Sony or LG.
But you fail to realise 2 things:
1) If BlackBerry can't compete on price and hardware used, then they are just uncompetitive.
Normally such an enterprise will exit the market sooner or later.
2) The consumer doesn't profit from BlackBerry saving on hardware costs, because he can have better hardware, for a smaller price, if he doesn't buy a BlackBerry.
That's kind of a problem for BlackBerry.
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Apple and samsung sell many devices due brand perception, brand loyalty, large marketing budgets and so forth. The iPhone 5s was a small upgrade to the iPhone 5 and it still sold and will sell millions, even though there's many phones with better specs.
Get over it.
Z30 - The Final Destination - Winnipeg Mb Clothing|Footwear|Headwear|Headshop|Tobacconist|Ta ttoosdeptech likes this.01-24-14 12:30 PMLike 1 - Once the Z30 gets the ability to run android apps it will be in competition with other android phones. They need to decrease the price to compete with the Nexus 5.
I find it odd that the sales price has such an impact. It appears that I can run a iPhone 5s for only $4.16 more a month on a 24 month term.
BB should load up the Z30 with free memory as a sales feature. Maybe offer a free case too.
We can agree that there is no competition for the Q10 right now. BlackBerry would have been much more successful if the
Device had a 4 inch screen.
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Posted via CB10Bbnivende likes this.01-24-14 12:38 PMLike 1 - My iphone 5 is 64gb, if I was to get the 5s it would have to be the same to handle all that's on there. The 64gb iPhone 5s is around $900 before taxes. $720 if I got the 16gb.
There for I choose to replace my z10 with a z30 for $550, either way I saved and got features I could never do with my ios devices, that's value for my money as a consumer. And I wasn't a BlackBerry user before bb10, I'm heavily invested in ios and android.
Z30 - The Final Destination - Winnipeg Mb Clothing|Footwear|Headwear|Headshop|Tobacconist|Ta ttoosdeptech likes this.01-24-14 01:09 PMLike 1 - iphone did not come out with outdated specs. maybe you should do your hw and find out what processor they're using for 5s.
you won't say z30 is running perfectly fine when a year from now they come out with bb11 and it doesn't support it because lack of hardware, or new app that require higher specs. i rather have something future proof for next couple of years than not.
And I highly doubt that will happen to the Z30, I purchase new devices yearly, as I'm into technology and use these devices extensively for multiple businesses, I'd gladly replace it with the best value for my buck at the time if it did happen.
Z30 - The Final Destination - Winnipeg Mb Clothing|Footwear|Headwear|Headshop|Tobacconist|Ta ttoosdeptech likes this.01-24-14 01:31 PMLike 1 - My iphone 5 is 64gb, if I was to get the 5s it would have to be the same to handle all that's on there. The 64gb iPhone 5s is around $900 before taxes. $720 if I got the 16gb.
There for I choose to replace my z10 with a z30 for $550, either way I saved and got features I could never do with my ios devices, that's value for my money as a consumer. And I wasn't a BlackBerry user before bb10, I'm heavily invested in ios and android.
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u might want to add the sd card argument, but ppl can say they got 1tb of cloud storage. all those are irrelevant. u only base it on what the stock model storage is.01-24-14 02:29 PMLike 0 - I could not have put it better. The iphone is a pokey little device that people buy because they are brainwashed by the media. Don't hand your Samsung to somebody to look at something because sure as heck they will touch something that will eliminate the screen. Blackberry be proud of your Z30 it is a really good product.
I'll never buy an iPhone, but I can respect their simplicity, ease of use, and app selection. The web browser, speaker phone, keyboard, text, email and things I value most in a phone don't hold a candle to BlackBerry 10's.
But I don't think people are brainwashed. No one was saying the media was "brainwashing" people when everyone owned a BlackBerry.01-24-14 04:37 PMLike 2 -
But I can actually, because my z30 is expandable with a 64gb sd card, iPhone isn't, so therefore I compare what works for me and what device would hold all the applications, photos, music, and videos on my previous device.
And if we're talking cloud storage, I got Box, Dropbox, Sky drive, and native Remote File Access to my home mac book pro, as well as both work computers and 1tb storage drive.
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01-24-14 05:48 PMLike 0 -
- The made the transition from 4S to 5 seems like it was magic and said it had a revolutionary new design... They say its innovation... I say bullcrap :|01-24-14 06:35 PMLike 0
- Brainwashed by the media?
I'll never buy an iPhone, but I can respect their simplicity, ease of use, and app selection. The web browser, speaker phone, keyboard, text, email and things I value most in a phone don't hold a candle to BlackBerry 10's.
But I don't think people are brainwashed. No one was saying the media was "brainwashing" people when everyone owned a BlackBerry.
Z30 - The Final Destination - Winnipeg Mb Clothing|Footwear|Headwear|Headshop|Tobacconist|Ta ttoos01-24-14 06:48 PMLike 0 - You all forget that 2014 is not the Year of High End Hardware for BB. They need this year to build up the software side and start promotions of the other businesses. North American consumer phones are a distant thought. I think we all have to admit that.
The new iPhone will copy all that is good from BB10 as they copy all that is good from everyone else, including their own app developers. I think the home button will either be gone, in favor of all swipes, or perhaps a soft home button if they think the fans can't tolerate the change. They will also reproduce the Hub while at the same time, not admitting what a great idea it is.
Blackberry's path is in another direction for now. When the enterprise portion comes out from it's media induced cloud and other businesses take off, BB high end phones will again be seen in consumer hands. Not this year though.
As sad as it is, i have to admit, if you could do it, why not.01-24-14 09:43 PMLike 0 - Although I've always been a BlackBerry user, from time to time I've tried an iPhone but have always come back to BlackBerry. Have a Z10, use a Q10 from work, and quickly picked up a Z30 because I saw it as the Z10 in steroids. Everyone I know with an iPhone has really complemented the size of the Z30 and would switch but aren't sold on the OS yet.
Now that it looks like there will be two new iPhones: 4.5inches and 5.5inches do you think this will make the Z30 almost irrelevant to attracting new BlackBerry converts in addition to the fact that Galaxy S and Note users now have a large iOS option.
It so frustrating to know we here at BlackBerry have the best OS/UI and people are afraid of it!
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