- 01-23-14 03:38 PMLike 0
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Compared to the rest of the market, 720p is subpar though.
And this is a huge problem for the Z30 anyhow.
Compared to comparatively priced devices, it's worse in every category, except maybe battery life.
(I own a Retina MacBook with 13 inches right now and a Z10)
The essence of the OS, is much closer to Android and iOS.
So of course other players will influence BB10 sales.
If BB10 would excel in more categories than just security, you should see better sales numbers.
The thought is totally wrong.
Just because BlackBerry isn't able to sell more BB10 devices to BBOS users, doesn't mean in any way that the two OS are competing with each other in terms of what an OS should be able to accomplish.
That BBOS was never intended to be used on a touchscreen, may give you a hint of what I am talking about.
And BlackBerry tries to compete with Apple and Android.
That they are unable to, in terms of sales, is a completely different theme.
Your logic isn't sound in that post.
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techvisor likes this.01-23-14 03:43 PMLike 1 - Just my tuppence worth I'm trying out a ifone 5s and it's actually good it takes a bit of getting used to but I loved my z10 still do, unconvinced of what future holds for bb last week in Edinburgh I saw nil z30 in any shop q10 was quite common, it is gorgeous no z10 s anywhere but bloody 9320 9720 everywhere what's going on???01-23-14 03:58 PMLike 0
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Posted via CB1001-23-14 04:11 PMLike 0 - IMO even with the current line-up of competing phones the Z30 isn't actually heavily appealing to the masses. The release of a new iPhone wouldn't make the situation worse IMO: It already is pretty dull.
On the spec war, the Z30 can't really compete. In terms of pricing, the Z30 can't compete (at least not here). The standalone features like USB OTG aren't really exciting for the masses, even though they're pretty cool. The app situation won't drastically change over night even when 10.2.1 hits . So basicly the OS with it's UX is the most major key selling point of the Z30. This point won't be downrated just because a new iPhone hits the streets.
The Z30 is a good device for sure, yet I highly doubt it has the features or price tag to appeal a large crowd besides BlackBerry fans or interests. I also doubt BBRY will go into a public "battle" with the Z30, it's already too late for that, especially with MWC being around the corner and BBRY wanting to focus on enterprise based customers for now.
Posted via the awesome Blackberry Q10MarsupilamiX and Bsbudd like this.01-23-14 04:20 PMLike 2 - That seems like an aspect ratio thing and a personal preference thing vs. the quality of the screen hardware honestly. I get what you mean though, I didn't like the AMOLED screen of the Q10 personally, but my buddy loves it. I love that bright Z10 look, even if it probably helps suck the battery on it.01-23-14 04:23 PMLike 0
- 01-23-14 04:23 PMLike 2
- To be fair, I think they get a little extra heat than they should. :-) Everyone was caught flat footed by the iPhone and they did in fact come out with a Touch Screen response in a year or so. As for the legendary "devices don't need cameras", they've had them for years and years and years so I think that gets overblown too.kbz1960 likes this.01-23-14 04:24 PMLike 1
- Outside of nerdy tech sites like ours, I bet many people don't care about most of the specs. I also find that many people who do care about specs can't demonstrate a practical use for that spec for anything other than bragging rights!
- "It's got a 50 megapixel camera ... but I never print photos and only post snaps to Facebook!"
- "It's got a quad core processor ... but I can't show an app that makes use of that performance in a demonstrateably better way than a dual core"
- "It's got a GPU that pushes this many billion polygons ... except that almost all the games are designed to work on phones with lower specs and none really make use of the power"
- "It's got a 1080p screen ... but I can't really tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on such a weeny screen"
To me, specs serve one specific purpose - making sure you have a nice, smooth experience. If your phone (from whatever company) pulls that off with its specs, awesome.01-23-14 04:26 PMLike 0 -
They are in completely different segments, as long as consumers are concerned.
In the enterprise, yes, I agree.
But this is solely due to BlackBerry's inability to understand when it's time to EOL something.
And BBOS should have been EOl'ed when BB10 came out.
Another "if", huh?
"Well, if BBRY gets the Storm right, it will kill the iPhone."
"You know, if people just realize how important security is, they'll flock to BBRY."
"If people just realize how important Flash is, they'll flock to PlayBook."
"If BBRY gets BB10 right, it will sell like hotcakes."
For years, I've read arguments here predicated on "ifs" that never occur, like those above. It's time to deal in the present. I agree that if BB10 excelled in more categories, it would sell better, but isn't that true of any product? I mean, if Android excelled in more categories, it would sell better too. The same goes for Windows Phone and iOS.
I used it to debunk the thought of it being useless to think about what consequences other platforms have on BB10.
If BB10 wouldn't lag behind the competition, then the whole situation would be another one.
BBOS is totally irrelevant in today's market.
To make comparisons with BBOS is useless, because you compare two unsuccessful operating systems with one another.
The question of what BlackBerry needs to do, to be better than Android/iOS is far more important.
You do understand me after all
Posted via CB1001-23-14 04:26 PMLike 0 -
- Not sure if the new iPhone will convert or compete with Z30 owners, I do know that I have no plans to convert, I am too happy with my Z30, this thing is awsome.
On a side note, what is with the anti-BlackBerry comments lately, thought this was a fan sight, and why do some not fill in their device and location information, appears suspicious...hummmm
Z30 on 2.2.1.1925 in Canada01-23-14 04:38 PMLike 0 - You must have forgot the dozen's of Bold's, Curve's, Tour's and Pearls that pretty much all look alike. Ignorance is bliss.01-23-14 05:27 PMLike 3
- Well, Apple has to do something. Part of the reason their China launch has been a complete debacle is their screen size is uncompetitive. Android is just blowing them out of the water with 96% of market share. The three other big problems for Apple in China are the lack of ecosystem, an uncompetitive price structure, and arrogance.01-23-14 05:50 PMLike 0
- Not sure if the new iPhone will convert or compete with Z30 owners, I do know that I have no plans to convert, I am too happy with my Z30, this thing is awsome.
On a side note, what is with the anti-BlackBerry comments lately, thought this was a fan sight, and why do some not fill in their device and location information, appears suspicious...hummmm
Z30 on 2.2.1.1925 in Canada
Soooo....
Am I a troll?
Posted via CB10techvisor likes this.01-23-14 05:53 PMLike 1 - I have had my Z30 since October last year. It is a stunning looking phone and a big improvement on the Z10. I consider the size of this phone to be absolutely perfect and the functionality is superb. My advice would be to purchase one and compare with other makes. You won't be disappointed. It is a fantastic piece of equipment.deptech likes this.01-23-14 05:55 PMLike 1
- Not sure if the new iPhone will convert or compete with Z30 owners, I do know that I have no plans to convert, I am too happy with my Z30, this thing is awsome.
On a side note, what is with the anti-BlackBerry comments lately, thought this was a fan sight, and why do some not fill in their device and location information, appears suspicious...hummmm
Z30 on 2.2.1.1925 in Canada01-23-14 05:56 PMLike 0 - Tbh the Z30 was pretty outdated right from the gates. Realistically the Z30 with below par specs, lack of carrier support, poor public perception, lack of apps made it where it wasn't considered by anyone. Only people who wanted a Z30 before going into the store got one. So it wasn't ever really an iPhone competitor, or any other phone to be fair. BlackBerry will be focusing on enterprise for a few years and come back with a consumer phone that is truly competitive when they are profitable.
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I use a android, ios, and bb10 daily, and know the ins and outs of each os and the devices I own.
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