Maybe I am Paranoid but I see them Trolling
Hmmmm, here is something I have noticed after reading a number of threads in CB about the BB10. Disclaimer: Yep I know my post counts seem miniscule but normally I used to just lurk and read....
However, there seems be a marked increase in people activating accounts. The long time posters are generally positive and constructive even when offering up criticisms, but most of the relatively new posters seem to be almost to a man pushing some negative agenda or making comments about how Android is so good. I might be wrong but most of these posters who have been lambasting the BB 10 and RIM, seem to be also touting the virtues of the Android and to a lesser extent the Apple OS. I will say nothing is wrong with posting whatever you want but I am just calling you as I see fit: Trolls....:mad:
(cue the arguments and the flame war:yawn:)
Maybe I am Paranoid but I see them Trolling
i'm a new poster, and some of my posts may be seen as negative. but i am fully supportive of blackberry.
i try to balance the overwhelming positivity with realism where i can because the way i see it, rim are in a dangerous situation, by their own doing, and i dont want to see them making the same mistake.
i love my bb and dont want to have to go to android because bb made the same mistakes and had to pull out of the market.
bb10 looks amazing and i just want to see it get given a fair shot, and to me that means, do not overstate it and generate false expectations :)
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Maybe I am Paranoid but I see them Trolling
Originally Posted by
Dapper37 ^ True but, Rims self inflicted wounds might not look so self inflicted once we see what they've been working on for the last 2+ years. At the same time as maintaining BBOS, no none of it was media inflicted. That never happens. We might have to admit how influenced some of us are by the media.
i disagree heavily here.
i've seen nothing that tells me rim has learned from its mistakes. and i wont see anything until well after bb10.
let me clarify, the way i see it, rim created blackberry os, it took the world by storm and was amazing.
rim rested on their laurels, other devices slowly caught up.
other devices surpassed rim, rim facing possibility of extinction.
rim acts and starts to create new os, manages to hang on in the market.
rim creates blackberry 10, quite possibly an amazing os that may take the world by storm.
however i do not know if once 10 is released whether rim will rest on their laurels again.
i hear good things from them, i also hear bad things (bb10 to power blackberry for the next 10 years, whats to say bb10 is not up to scratch within 5 years)
but until i see how the company acts once bb10 is released i will not say run has learnt from their mistakes
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Maybe I am Paranoid but I see them Trolling
Originally Posted by
Dapper37 I've particapated in this forum long enough to understand how easy it is to throw around critisism and never offer up any solutions. The enormity of the task RIM is ready to complete is unknown to everyone. Yet there's no shortage of people that feel they could have done better in that same situation? I get you!
i'm not criticising for the sake of it. i have made various suggestions on what rim should do in my eyes. i also think they've taken a good approach in being more lean as an organisation.
but they still need to redeem themselves from their past mistakes and bb10 is not this. its their conduct after bb10 that will determine if rim has redeemed itself, in my eyes.
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Maybe I am Paranoid but I see them Trolling
Originally Posted by
simu31 Really?!? "Nothing"?!? You can't see any difference between what RIM has done previously and what they've been setting about doing for the last [say] 8 - 9 months or so?!?
The undeniable push for developers. The very controled leaks and social media marketing. The brand new OS. The browser which is best in class. The halt to having their collective heads in the sand (or any dark orifice) by admitting and working to solve their problems. etc... etc.... etc...
If this, even these few examples, doesn't show they've learned something, then I'm not entirely sure what will convince you.
I for one believe that RIM have learned a lot from their past mistakes and have set so many pieces in place to have a very positive future.... starting with the launch event in 28 days.
Si.
i see them releasing a fantastic os again. and they worked hard last time too. they did that last time and their mistake was to stand still once it had been released.
my point was I've seen nothing to tell me that they wont do the same again. this is because bb10 is not out. so what i am trying to say is i am reserving judgement until i see how rim acts once bb10 is released. I've noticed every one of your points too, and they give me confidence, but ultimately have no indication that they have learnt. i like to think they have, but will not say they have until they show they have. which they cant atm.
please quote me in context next time. what i said before was central to the point you quoted and quoting just that leaves it looking like i was saying something else.
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