[dreadpiratejeff]

Not sure where to put this question, so I put it here... this is more a technical e-mail server kind of question, but read on and you'll see what I'm asking about.

So I only have one e-mail account pushing to my bb. Its a gmail account. I'm not using the GMail mobile app, not using the enhanced GMail plugin either. Just using the standard messages stuff that comes on the BB.

So far, everyone I send mail to from the bb gets the mail just fine. This also includes various yahoogroups I am on.

Now, there is one listserv that I'm on that keeps bouncing mail that comes from the bb... but not from gmail.

So that being said, I know that I'm subscribed, and I've had a little back and forth with the list owner trying to sort this out...

Here are headers from the message that I sent FROM the BB using my GMail address:

X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1981958839
Message-ID:<1981958839-1252294816-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-841904356-@bda541.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Reply-To: [email protected]
X-Priority: Normal
Sensitivity: Normal
Importance: Normal
Subject: Test part deux
To: [email protected]
From: "Jeff" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:41:04 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain
MIME-Version: 1.0

This one is from the blackberry.
Arrgh! Blasted from me CrackBarrrrry!

And here is the header from the bounce:

Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: by 10.220.80.213 with SMTP id u21cs349738vck;
        Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:40:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.220.89.67 with SMTP id d3mr6672138vcm.97.1252294823922;
        Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:40:23 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <>
Received: from smtp14.bis.na.blackberry.com (smtp14.bis.na.blackberry.com [216.9.248.28])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 3si3109541vws.9.2009.09.06.20.40.23;
        Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:40:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of smtp14.bis.na.blackberry.com designates 216.9.248.28 as permitted sender) client-ip=216.9.248.28;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of smtp14.bis.na.blackberry.com designates 216.9.248.28 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=
Received: from as42.bis.na.blackberry.com (as42.bis.na.blackberry.com [172.20.229.99] (may be forged))
	by srs.bis.na.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n873e4Ki020731
	for <SRS0=Wokc3E=E6=gmail.com=dreadpiratejeff@srs.bis.na.blackberry.com>; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:40:04 GMT
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=76.162.254.64;
  receiver=as42.bis.na.blackberry.com;
  envelope-from="";
  x-sender="[email protected]";
  x-conformance=sidf_compatible
Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=76.162.254.64;
  receiver=as42.bis.na.blackberry.com;
  envelope-from="";
  x-sender="[email protected]";
  x-conformance=sidf_compatible
Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=76.162.254.64;
  receiver=as42.bis.na.blackberry.com;
  envelope-from="";
  x-sender="[email protected]";
  x-conformance=sidf_compatible
X-SBRS: 5.3
Received: from mail64.opentransfer.com ([76.162.254.64])
  by as42.bis.na.blackberry.com with SMTP; 07 Sep 2009 03:40:36 +0000
Received: (qmail 25844 invoked for bounce); 7 Sep 2009 03:36:57 -0000
Date: 7 Sep 2009 03:36:57 -0000
From: [email protected]
To: SRS0=Wokc3E=E6=gmail.com=dreadpiratejeff@srs.bis.na.blackberry.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1252294617mail64.opentransfer.com182781"
Subject: failure notice

The offending thing seems to be the blackberry.com email address:

[email protected] a.blackberry.com

It appears that when I send mail from the blackberry, BIS changes my email address to this long weird line.

SO, when the mail gets to the other end, it seems that the FROM or perhaps one other header,maybe X-Sender or something like that, is the long blackberry address, not [email protected]

The thing is, that blackberry.com email address changes every time a mail is sent, depending on what smtp server at blackberry.com ends up forwarding the mail out.

THAT seems to be the problem... and I have no idea who to talk to or even IF anything can be done.

Just FWIW, here are some headers from mail sent FROM the BB using the GMail address to my personal address (not GMail):

X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:934943001
Message-ID:<934943001-1252293839-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2110216989-@bda541.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Reply-To: [email protected]
X-Priority: Normal
Sensitivity: Normal
Importance: Normal
Subject: Test
To: jeff@MYDOMAIN
From: "Jeff" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:24:38 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain
MIME-Version: 1.0

And here are headers from the first bounce I got:

Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: by 10.220.80.213 with SMTP id u21cs342843vck;
        Sun, 6 Sep 2009 15:58:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.224.25.67 with SMTP id y3mr8780699qab.346.1252277937737;
        Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:58:57 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <>
Received: from smtp12.bis.na.blackberry.com (smtp12.bis.na.blackberry.com [216.9.248.26])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 15si6630596qyk.61.2009.09.06.15.58.57;
        Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:58:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of smtp12.bis.na.blackberry.com designates 216.9.248.26 as permitted sender) client-ip=216.9.248.26;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of smtp12.bis.na.blackberry.com designates 216.9.248.26 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=
Received: from as65.bis.na.blackberry.com (as65.bis.na.blackberry.com [172.20.229.145] (may be forged))
	by srs.bis.na.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n86MxHQ8001884
	for <SRS0=zPGSli=E5=gmail.com=dreadpiratejeff@srs.bis.na.blackberry.com>; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 22:59:17 GMT
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=76.162.254.64;
  receiver=as65.bis.na.blackberry.com;
  envelope-from="";
  x-sender="[email protected]";
  x-conformance=sidf_compatible
Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=76.162.254.64;
  receiver=as65.bis.na.blackberry.com;
  envelope-from="";
  x-sender="[email protected]";
  x-conformance=sidf_compatible
Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=76.162.254.64;
  receiver=as65.bis.na.blackberry.com;
  envelope-from="";
  x-sender="[email protected]";
  x-conformance=sidf_compatible
X-SBRS: 5.3
Received: from mail64.opentransfer.com ([76.162.254.64])
  by as65.bis.na.blackberry.com with SMTP; 06 Sep 2009 22:59:09 +0000
Received: (qmail 6715 invoked for bounce); 6 Sep 2009 22:55:28 -0000
Date: 6 Sep 2009 22:55:28 -0000
From: [email protected]
To: SRS0=zPGSli=E5=gmail.com=dreadpiratejeff@srs.bis.na.blackberry.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1252277728mail64.opentransfer.com181921"
Subject: failure notice

Now, notice the To lines...

[email protected] a.blackberry.com
[email protected] a.blackberry.com

The damn address changes with each e-mail... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot??