Legacy devices need to go now, for good
- From the current market conditions, one thing is pretty clear, one true enemy of BB10 is its own predecessor, BBOS7
Blackberry shouldn't release the phones on BBOS7 anymore, no matter how good/bad/important they are, because, if they want to see BB10 succeed, they need to kill it's cheaper alternative. And instead, release a cheaper line of BB10 devices.
Even though Legacy along with BIS generate huge revenue for Blackberry, but they need to understand that this only creates more and more confusion to a customer, and lowers down/slows growth of BB10 platform.
Also, it leads to more misconceptions and people include Legacy's bad points into books of BB10, which gives BB10 a bad name.
Hence, i think BB should officially announce the retirement of Legacy device as soon as the whole BB10 line(low-mid-top) is launched. It's never too late, people still love BB
One leg in past, and one leg in future is not really a good idea, what's your opinion?04-12-14 11:15 AMLike 11 - I will become an Android user if that happens before they release a BB10 phone that doesn't force me to wipe on the screen to do everything.Legal Eagle and mamasan47 like this.04-12-14 11:39 AMLike 2
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- Yes, this company needs to move on. Sticking onto it may look good at the first sight, but it's killing them from inside and not good for long run. Also, BB10 should be renamed to QNX, sounds cooler04-12-14 01:03 PMLike 0
- I tend to agree. BBRY can't continue to suck and blow. By keeping BBOS alive and continuing to manufacture BBOS devices, BBRY is simply undermining BB10.
Instead of continuing production of BBOS devices, BBRY should instead invest in improving the BB10 experience and produce better, newer BB10 devices.
Posted via CB1004-12-14 01:09 PMLike 4 - So by making it go BlackBerry loses 500 Millions in revenues a quarter. Are you suggesting killing of BlackBerry earlier? Don't you want development on the OS to continue?
Posted via CB1004-12-14 01:14 PMLike 6 - I'm not sure why a company would kill off it's top seller unless it loses money for them. Last I checked, BBOS outsold BB10 almost 2 to 1.
While I understand that BB needs to shift away from the old platform, they need to have a gradual process that is inclusive....making a device that operates similar to what the old one did, but including new features.
For whatever reason, be it lack of marketing, bad experiences with the new OS, price at the point of sale, product knowledge by carrier.... Etc.. BB10 hit the ground with a loud thud.
I'm not saying that BB10 isn't viable. I'm saying that BB needs to get to the bottom of why the rollout failed, other than anecdotal evidence, then work to correct whatever it is that is making the consumer vote against the new platform with their phone buying decisions.
Sent from my iPhone using CB Forums mobile app04-12-14 01:25 PMLike 11 - And what happens when BB10 still doesn't sell? U have now just lost all that service revenue for no reason. Look, I think Bb10 is much better than BBOS but simply kicking off BBOS when BB10 shows no signs of growth is not a smart decision at all
Posted via CB1004-12-14 01:34 PMLike 7 - Not yet. BB10 isn't enough to sustain the company and has a spotty reputation at best with the market. Legacy is still also most trusted for corporate.
Hopefully, BB11, or whatever the next OS is, is reaching maturity and will be ready soon. BBRY IMO has to sweep out both legacy and BB10, with an intense and above all smart campaign. But no premature promises � that BBRY simply musn't do.04-12-14 01:40 PMLike 3 - I think a package that looks and functions like a legacy device, but operating BB10, could be successful.
Make it as tough as my old Curve 9300 and it would be tough to beat.
Sent from my iPhone using CB Forums mobile app04-12-14 01:42 PMLike 3 - I'm not sure why a company would kill off it's top seller unless it loses money for them. Last I checked, BBOS outsold BB10 almost 2 to 1.
While I understand that BB needs to shift away from the old platform, they need to have a gradual process that is inclusive....making a device that operates similar to what the old one did, but including new features.
For whatever reason, be it lack of marketing, bad experiences with the new OS, price at the point of sale, product knowledge by carrier.... Etc.. BB10 hit the ground with a loud thud.
I'm not saying that BB10 isn't viable. I'm saying that BB needs to get to the bottom of why the rollout failed, other than anecdotal evidence, then work to correct whatever it is that is making the consumer vote against the new platform with their phone buying decisions.
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That's what (i've assumed) has happened to BB10, and BBOS7(like the earlier flagship) has eaten up its market share.
When you launch something, you make it better and let people know about it(which blackberry didn't)
Also, the transition shouldn't be gradual, as not much time is left, soon Android's new version, iOS8 along with iPhone6, etc etc will be launched, and Blackberry needs to get it's act together as soon as possibleShadowyugi likes this.04-12-14 01:42 PMLike 1 - Q20 with the belt needs to hit the market first. Bugs/kinks need to be worked out and overall user satisfaction needs to be high before the legacy devices can be discontinued. People's rationale will be that if they are forced to use a touch screen phone they will use one that has a more mature OS and deeper ecosystem (Android and iOS). Continuing OS7 production for the time being is a necessary move.acovey likes this.04-12-14 01:44 PMLike 1
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I hope BB will launch soon it's low tier BB10 range, and people don't want to shift to a whole new OS by paying a huge amount of money. That's why BB10 isn't selling much.
In case one of the factors is fixed, maybe we'll see a market growth
As soon as whole BB10 (or say QNX ) range is deployed, BBOS7 should be killed04-12-14 01:47 PMLike 0 - Everyone that I know who has to use a legacy BlackBerry for work laughs at it. They all have other phones for personal use and compare them to their "work BlackBerry." Going from their personal iPhones and androids to having to use their antiquated BlackBerry, mainly just for email, makes them resent the BlackBerry.
Posted via CB1004-12-14 01:51 PMLike 0 - That's what i'm trying to say. BB10 is showing no sign of growth because of existence of BBOS7.
I hope BB will launch soon it's low tier BB10 range, and people don't want to shift to a whole new OS by paying a huge amount of money. That's why BB10 isn't selling much.
In case one of the factors is fixed, maybe we'll see a market growthdracolnyte and riss89 like this.04-12-14 01:52 PMLike 2 - Actually, it sells it sells because its cheap it's nothing about comfort actually, BB10 is better. Even i have a 9220 curve, and i bought it because it's cheap. honestly, and a lot of people i know do the same.04-12-14 01:55 PMLike 0
- What do you mean? I'm just saying the UI on the current BB10 lineup sucks if you're not a huge touchscreen fan, and given no other choice, I would rather get an Android that at least has back, menu, and home buttons.
There is no "forcing" anyone onto BB10, only forcing them away from BlackBerry altogether.04-12-14 02:30 PMLike 0 - From the current market conditions, one thing is pretty clear, one true enemy of BB10 is its own predecessor, BBOS7
Blackberry shouldn't release the phones on BBOS7 anymore, no matter how good/bad/important they are, because, if they want to see BB10 succeed, they need to kill it's cheaper alternative. And instead, release a cheaper line of BB10 devices.
Even though Legacy along with BIS generate huge revenue for Blackberry, but they need to understand that this only creates more and more confusion to a customer, and lowers down/slows growth of BB10 platform.
Also, it leads to more misconceptions and people include Legacy's bad points into books of BB10, which gives BB10 a bad name.
Hence, i think BB should officially announce the retirement of Legacy device as soon as the whole BB10 line(low-mid-top) is launched. It's never too late, people still love BB
One leg in past, and one leg in future is not really a good idea, what's your opinion?Shadowyugi likes this.04-12-14 02:38 PMLike 1 -
i hope they release kopi(q3) along with it. I'd rather prefer keyboard and small low resolution screen than a full touch large low resolution screen.
yes, make BIS optional on BB10 can be a great idea, also, belt.04-12-14 02:53 PMLike 0 -
- I tend to agree. BBRY can't continue to suck and blow. By keeping BBOS alive and continuing to manufacture BBOS devices, BBRY is simply undermining BB10.
Instead of continuing production of BBOS devices, BBRY should instead invest in improving the BB10 experience and produce better, newer BB10 devices.
Posted via CB10mamasan47 likes this.04-12-14 03:10 PMLike 1 -
It has long been suspected that many people bought the legacy devices for BIS and BBM. BlackBerry 10 don't have BIS and BBM isn't exclusive to BlackBerry anymore. So what reason would a legacy user have to downgrade to BB10?
Remember everyone, not all BlackBerry users are fanboys of the company. Some of them use BlackBerry only because of specific features that they need for whatever reason.
BIS is a huge deal for many people. Kill of the legacy OS, and many of those customers won't have any reason to stay with BlackBerry at all.mamasan47 likes this.04-12-14 03:13 PMLike 1 - BB10 isn't going to grow simply because BBOS is killed off. People forget that the majority of the sales for these older models are in emerging markets because of two things: Cheap phone and super cheap data. Business aren't rushing out to buy these devices. Simply killing it doesn't do anything but kill a revenue stream for Blackberry.04-12-14 03:20 PMLike 3
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