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  1. mikeo007's Avatar
    The part where he had to actually mess with the router....not even sure if you are trying to debate that apple tv is as easy as plugging in a cable on 2 ends...

    Posted via CB10
    If you have to mess with an existing router to get a basic wifi device to work, then you've done something wrong with the router. Hardly a fault with the setup of the device.

    Plugging in a cable is easier, but setting up a device as simple as an Apple TV or even a Roku is not rocket science. And it's a hell of a lot more convenient once it is set up.

    Anyway, just wanted to check in on this train-wreck of a thread. Everyone can get back to their regularly scheduled fighting about phones.
    EmaliMcrtny likes this.
    02-17-14 01:51 PM
  2. Karan Mohal's Avatar
    If the topic was HDMI w/ a BB going to meetings was the topic then yes I'd agree with you. That wasn't what anyone was talking about. Somehow you interpreted that someone was taking their Apple TV to a meeting which was never even mentioned and I agree isn't practical.
    Originally Posted by donnation
    I still can't find a practical reason to use HDMI on the phone. There are a billion different options for watching movies and I don't like having a cable strung across the room to do something that a million other services offer with no wire. What am I missing here? I don't mean this is a negative way, but what is the reason for hooking your phone with a cable to a tv?


    And so I gave you a real world example of a reason to use a cable over 'a million other services offer with no wire' ..
    Unless you wanted to limit the converstion to home / living room use?
    02-17-14 01:55 PM
  3. Karan Mohal's Avatar
    I didn't say bad, I said complicated. Clearly you can't bother to read my post thoroughly so i'm done with you.
    lol. allllrighty then. enjoy your day.
    02-17-14 01:58 PM
  4. donnation's Avatar
    Originally Posted by donnation
    I still can't find a practical reason to use HDMI on the phone. There are a billion different options for watching movies and I don't like having a cable strung across the room to do something that a million other services offer with no wire. What am I missing here? I don't mean this is a negative way, but what is the reason for hooking your phone with a cable to a tv?


    And so I gave you a real world example of a reason to use a cable over 'a million other services offer with no wire' ..
    Unless you wanted to limit the converstion to home / living room use?
    Where did I mention using it to do presentations? I was talking about home and personal use for movies or media which you turned it to using it on a daily basis for meeting presentations, unless you mean taking it in to watch a movie with customers.
    02-17-14 01:59 PM
  5. Karan Mohal's Avatar
    Where did I mention using it to do presentations? I was talking about home and personal use for movies or media which you turned it to using it on a daily basis for meeting presentations, unless you mean taking it in to watch a movie with customers.
    Well I guess the same exact example could be used in the context of taking ur phone to a buddies place to watch a movie or something.. But im thinking you dont want to hear that..

    Perhaps this is what you would like to hear:

    You are correct. There is no point in having HDMI out. Its entirely useless. Infact the numerous companies that put HDMI on their phones are collectively staffed by complete idiots that arent aware of miracast, dnla streaming, apple tv, etc. The fact that you dont use HDMI, and the others chiming in here, dont use HDMI, is proof enough. Noone needs it, its total garbage.
    02-17-14 02:16 PM
  6. donnation's Avatar
    Well I guess the same exact example could be used in the context of taking ur phone to a buddies place to watch a movie or something.. But im thinking you dont want to hear that..

    Perhaps this is what you would like to hear:

    You are correct. There is no point in having HDMI out. Its entirely useless. Infact the numerous companies that put HDMI on their phones are collectively staffed by complete idiots that arent aware of miracast, dnla streaming, apple tv, etc. The fact that you dont use HDMI, and the others chiming in here, dont use HDMI, is proof enough. Noone needs it, its total garbage.
    Lol ok Karen. I wasn't stating that either. But I guess Blackberry to HDMI is the end all be all way of watching media on a tv. Does that make it better for you? My god just drop it, I couldn't state it any clearer in my original question that I was only asking, and as soon as Apple TV or any option other than using the blackberry HDMI cable is mentioned a few people get so defensive. I never stated it was bad or wrong, I was simply asking how people use this feature in an effective way. But you decided that it was some type of plug for Apple and want to show how Apple TV is the absolute worst option. I get it, you will only ever use the HDMI cable and I'm very happy for you.
    02-17-14 02:27 PM
  7. jonty12's Avatar
    Ok, this is an unsolicited comment coming from someone who has used the HDMI out from BBs (PB) from April 2011....

    When traveling and for meetings, HDMI is far, far, let me add, far superior to any other solution. Period. I wouldn't trade it for anything. No Hotels have smart TVs, and I am not setting up routers and devices in my hotel room at the end of the day. Also, in meetings, I have had many where the presentation wasn't where it should be and have simply hooked up my HDMI cable to my phone and "saved the day".

    At home, a wireless solution, if you can get one to work without being jittery, is a far better solution than having a cable strewn across the living room. That being said, having the PB connected via a short cable and controlling via bridge is a pretty good solution. I use my BB/PB as a last resort at home when FiOS on-demand times out for no reason, or I can't connect to something streaming via my (not-so)"Smart" DVD player. Roku/ATV are better, IMO, solutions for home.
    Karan Mohal and wincyUt like this.
    02-17-14 02:43 PM
  8. Karan Mohal's Avatar
    All I really did was give you an example of how I use the HDMI cable, and then went on to point out why it was preferable over a wireless solution. I apologise if I went too far by using a work-related example; thats the only one I had to offer... I dont think I said anything rash, or defensive (at first anyways, gets more difficult with each post, when ppl ignore what you say and just lash out) but if I did, sorry.

    In the end, I was just trying to show you how someone may prefer to use a cable over a wireless solution. In the context of sitting at home, im sure a wireless solution would be much more convenient.

    Also my name is not Karen.
    02-17-14 02:45 PM
  9. Playbookjoe's Avatar
    I'm guessing 2gb ish. Not a big deal on WIFI. Worked well by the way. Canada wins 2-1 in OT

    Posted via CB10
    What website did you use?
    Cbc will not work for me.

    Posted via CB10
    02-17-14 02:59 PM
  10. extisis's Avatar
    I got 12 Gig data plan on my phone. Rogers rep called one day and asked how can I make your plan better? I'm like hmm i dunno its pretty amazing already...but more data? Hes like ok how about i double your data for 1 dollar extra per month.

    I was like sure.


    apparently they have these ppl who just call and super upgrade their best customers just cuz to keep them happy. in love with Rogers!
    AT&T Customer of 8 years: WTF.
    02-17-14 03:22 PM
  11. spikesolie's Avatar
    If you have to mess with an existing router to get a basic wifi device to work, then you've done something wrong with the router. Hardly a fault with the setup of the device.

    Plugging in a cable is easier, but setting up a device as simple as an Apple TV or even a Roku is not rocket science. And it's a hell of a lot more convenient once it is set up.

    Anyway, just wanted to check in on this train-wreck of a thread. Everyone can get back to their regularly scheduled fighting about phones.
    I never blamed the device, I just said it's not as easy to set up if it's say not a home network. It's a church and they have some weird stuff going on security wise and all.. compare to an.hdmi that doesn't rely on Internet at all.

    Anyways I'd love.bb to have something like BlackBerry tv so I'm not ragging on apple tv. I'm just saying it is definitely not a replacement for hdmi.

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    02-17-14 03:37 PM
  12. RandyArsenault's Avatar
    I forgot my HDMI cord at work so I bought another one to watch Old Yeller with after I downloaded it. The young girl working at The Source in Ontario said that the cord wasn't compatible, same thing I used it immediately.

    Not educated salespeople, yet something that isn't advertised well enough.

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    02-17-14 03:43 PM
  13. Karan Mohal's Avatar
    Im with spike here... I dont hate apple tv or the idea of it either. Just showing that it doesnt work in all situations.

    Myself, I dont have cable tv in my household; we use nt-a3500's at each TV all connected thru a wired gigabit network, and a large NAS to share content between em.. All the content coming from torrents, hulu, and netflix... So as you can see, myself, I dont use an HDMI cable at home. I use something more similar to Apple TV ... But I still use my HDMI quite a bit regardless.
    02-17-14 04:00 PM
  14. kevets's Avatar
    I use cable HDMI a lot. Streaming vids at home and presentations at work. I hook my BlackBerry up with a bluetooth mouse and leave the phone next to the TV. I just like the cable, no hassle, it always works and any TV becomes my screen.
    And if you add a keyboard, well need I say more..?

    Posted via CB10
    I will take this opportunity to once again say... GIVE US A MEDIA/HDMI DOCK FOR THE PHONE AND ALLOW LANDSCAPE HOMESCREEN, BLACKBERRY!

    Imagine if they sold a mobile office pack...
    - Media dock with charging, HDMI
    - Bluetooth mouse
    - Bluetooth keyboard
    Charge $119 for the kit, and $49 for the dock a la carte, and I bet it would be a seller. Instant thin-client device for power user/business user types.
    02-17-14 10:03 PM
  15. Yasch22's Avatar
    Not sure, but if you have wifi access, it's all part of whatever your wifi costs.
    02-17-14 10:10 PM
  16. rhon3g's Avatar
    That's great, but I'd rather have an Apple TV or Roku or the many other options when it comes to getting rid of cable, which is going to give me waaaaaay more content and options than attaching a cable to my z30.
    Z30 has wifi direct and miracast so you don't need to use HDMI cable.

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    02-18-14 01:38 AM
  17. bermie2000's Avatar
    Well I guess the same exact example could be used in the context of taking ur phone to a buddies place to watch a movie or something.. But im thinking you dont want to hear that..

    Perhaps this is what you would like to hear:

    You are correct. There is no point in having HDMI out. Its entirely useless. Infact the numerous companies that put HDMI on their phones are collectively staffed by complete idiots that arent aware of miracast, dnla streaming, apple tv, etc. The fact that you dont use HDMI, and the others chiming in here, dont use HDMI, is proof enough. Noone needs it, its total garbage.
    I've had to use the hdmi cord to watch movies before. With my set-up, I have to use it whenever using content that is not compatible with my dlna-bluray player. Example: the blu-ray player cannot play mkv files, but the phone can. So,if I try to stream wirelessly via dlna, I get a "this type of video cannot be viewed on this device" error from the blu-ray player. However, via the Hdmi cable, I can connect to my TV or receiver and view the movie, no problem.

    Posted from my Q10/Z10
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    02-20-14 12:04 PM
  18. irweezyy's Avatar
    I think the point of this thread is to say that if you have a device, and you have a TV, the cheapest way to get your video from your device to the TV is by using a micro hdmi cable. Theres always going to be a way for every device to do everything via adapters, cables and accessories. Not sure why ppl need to fight over it. But if the argument is to find the cheapest way to do this it is always going to be by cable, which is like 10$. Micro hdmi is a more universal standard than any other cable, but there will be other cables for other devices for the same price.

    I prefer the micro hdmi cable as it connects my z30, q10, Samsung ativ smart pc, playbook, Gopro, and my ultrabook.

    There is no accessory on the market for 10$ or less that can connect such a variety of different manufacturers products. So this is why I refer to the micro hdmi cable as a more universal standard than the rest.

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    02-20-14 12:48 PM
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