iMessage VS. BBM = Not The Same!!!
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- Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesWhatever the case, I'll be giving BBM Android a try. There are a few forumites I wouldn't mind connecting with.
The way I see it, it potentially makes me a better communicator. Options are good, and it might compel the market leaders to improve.
Consumer wins!09-09-13 10:52 PMLike 0 - Jtfolden is doing the same thing with my posts trying to make it seem like BBM is useless unless everyone is using it otherwise you will need to use multiple messaging apps. I don't think he/she understands how it really would work.
Posted via CB1009-09-13 10:52 PMLike 0 - giving the massive number of android users - 900,000,000 with ~61.2% using Android 4.0 and above, 100,000 can't be an impressive number
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http://gigaom.com/2013/05/15/google-...ces-activated/09-09-13 10:58 PMLike 0 - I've got so many friends waiting for BBM on their iphones and Androids...however as I stated early since RIM re-branded to BlackBerry why not take this opportunity to brand yourself across every single iPhone and Android out there by losing the short formed of BBM and using the full name BlackBerry Messenger?
Posted via the best Keyboard in Existence my Mo Fo Z1009-09-13 11:08 PMLike 0 - Do they? Research firm Mobidia recently released a report that indicated actual, active user engagement of third party apps is not nearly as high as the downloads themselves would indicate. Supposed king of the third party apps, WhatsApp might reach as high as 40% of smartphone users in Brazil but well below 20% in China and 10% in the US.
Just as most BB fans have been arguing in these forums for months, people download a lot of apps but don't end up using them.
Posted via CB1009-09-13 11:10 PMLike 0 - One of the key things we blackberry users should do is embrace and make channels as vibrant as possible. We can make it just like instagram or facebook where everyone would feel the need to get on it for social networking. But it's up to us to make them feel missing out on it. This could infact bring more attention to bb. Instragram was solely on the iPhone and look at it now. I helped the platform grow and facebook made a killing (or still is) off of it.
Posted via CB1009-09-13 11:14 PMLike 0 - Usage cases is a key!
iMessage, WhatsApp used to low costs text messages. They use simply authorization, transparent contact list - it's enough to text. There is success!
BBM give group messaging (Facebook is better), give events for groups (Facebook is better)...
I do not see any reason to install BBM, if I have WhatsApp and Facebook installed on my iPhone.
Auditory is a key. If you do not have friends with BB - is there reason to install BBM ? No. If you have a friends with Windows Phone is there reason to use BBM? No.
So, where is benefit???09-09-13 11:31 PMLike 0 - Usage cases is a key!
iMessage, WhatsApp used to low costs text messages. They use simply authorization, transparent contact list - it's enough to text. There is success!
BBM give group messaging (Facebook is better), give events for groups (Facebook is better)...
I do not see any reason to install BBM, if I have WhatsApp and Facebook installed on my iPhone.
Auditory is a key. If you do not have friends with BB - is there reason to install BBM ? No. If you have a friends with Windows Phone is there reason to use BBM? No.
So, where is benefit???
Posted via CB1009-09-13 11:43 PMLike 0 - Your biggest point isn't even iMessage...your talking about SMS...if iMessage goes down or someone doesn't have iMessage it sends a text...well yes it does send a text but you no longer are using the iMessage feature...and thats what this thread is discussing...iMessage vs. BBM...
BBM is going to have the same problem as the BB10 phones themselves, a compelling reason for people to switch from what they are using - whether it's iMessage or WhatsApp, etc...
there is a reason Whatsapp and these cross platform messaging solutions are so popular...and why people would rather use BBM or Whatsapp over texting people, but
WhatsApp Market Share: WhatsApp Dominates Downloads, Not Engagement | BGR
yes texting is reliable because every phone has it!
But I am not saying you have to start sending two messages to bbm and sms...if none of YOUR friends have BBM then good for you...
ultimately everyone will be using BBM anyways, so then you wouldn't need to text or anything, you just go to BBM.
Also yes for my scenario to work 19/20 people would need to download a FREE APPLICATION...but if you want to text then people can just text people...for your iMessage to work people need to purchase a super expensive device to use it.
Can I download BBM and use it the same way? Even if I have no trouble giving up iMessage (both the app and the delivery service) can I then stick to BBM, including for SMS, so I don't need to rely on any other app?
The more likely scenario is that people already have Android or iPhones, and those who have Windows phone are SOL for the time being...if 15 of my friends go to BBM then lets say 5 don't...I create a group and those other 5 people have iPhones and Androids...I send them the link to download the FREE APPLICATION and they install it (seeing as its FREE) and now all 20 people are using BBM and they love it because of the added features over iMessage and SMS, and you can create a much better messaging experience.
If you or anyone ever use more than just one of the following: FaceBook chat, Whatsapp, SMS, iMessage, BBM, KiK, Google Hangouts, etc., then your solution is broken (according to you)...
Sadly the solution is going to be broken no matter what as not 100% of people in the world will use the same messaging platform.
This is why on desktops you had a convergence of IM apps that handled multiple services... This is why we each can use any email app we want and send mail to anyone else even if they're using a different service...
Some will use FaceBook Chat, others like BBM, others like iMessage...if I like BBM, but others don't have it then its broken, if YOU like iMessage but others don't have iPhones then it converts to a text and thats a broken solution.
What will you do when 50% of your friends, family, work colleagues are on BBM and out of the other 50%, 25% are on iPhones, and 25% are on Android. So you can only iMessage 25% of people as 50% are using BBM, and the other 25% will be text messages since they are on android...
if you go to BBM then others will and soon you will have all 100% on BBM. (This may not be specific to you, but could happen with many people in the world who miss their BBM, and will gladly return to it as their daily messaging driver)
If BBM could be a drop in replacement where you lose NONE of your existing benefits and gain the extra features then it might finally stand out.
..until then it's just competing with WhatsApp, Line, etc... and not iMessage or any other default text feature on a phone.
Finally...again to the iMessage AWESOME solution you talk about...you may not notice the break, but to the receiver they have to use their SMS App, and then they may also use Whatsapp to talk to others using Whatsapp. So they have to open their Text Messaging, read and reply, then close and open Whatsapp to read and reply to someone else's message. So it kind of sounds selfish to say its seamless and awesome, because you are just thinking about your experience on your iPhone, and not realizing that people on other devices will be getting texts, but Whatsapp or BBM are on iPhone, Android and BlackBerry so everyone could just use that single app and never need to rely on SMS again, where BBM has more features people would like.09-09-13 11:53 PMLike 4 - As an iPhone user I see no reason to install bbm. With apps such as Line, Viber, Kik and Whatsapp, bbm no longer relevant. If bbm would have been released 1-2 years earlier my decision would have been different. Unfortunately there are cross platforms apps that are much better. Just look at whatsapp, it is on every platformAlexXF likes this.09-10-13 03:10 AMLike 1
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Every product annoucement is a fail because the product never come out in time... that's why i leave blackberry. They show you what you want, and then you have to wait to see every competitor make a better product, AND THEN blackberry put the product on the market...
For example BBM, i can't even remember when they announce the iOs and Android app...09-10-13 03:16 AMLike 0 - Viber and whatsapp uses one's phone number. What if I don't want that contact to know of my number? This is where bbm will win the hearts of many.
Sent from my Z10 using Tapatalk 409-10-13 03:19 AMLike 0 -
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Please provide usage case for that. Otherwise this is a chit-chat only.
There is a skype, if you do not want to provide phone number.09-10-13 03:36 AMLike 0 -
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- You guys are misunderstaning the issue where comparisons are made between imessage and whatsapp or bbm and sms messages.
Maybe in north america and ith3r developed countries, the seamless aspect of imessages has little impact as it will default to sms when necessary. However this seamlessness is a problem for those whi do not have an sms mobile package or free sms. This does not take account if internatiol texting which through sms is expensive for many and restricted.
The use of cross platform messaging means free international texts, free picture messaging, unlimited messages etc all for the cost of an internet package which is usually cheaper.
This is the reason for the popularity of bbm in developing countries. With the rise of whatsapp and other competing im solutions that can be used in cheaper phones the use of bbm is dying in those markets.
Comparing imessage with bbm without taking the financial element into the discussion is simplistic and shortsighted and ignores the disadvantages of imessgae beyond its value in certain markets.
Bmm, whatsapp, skype, Facebook chat, yahoo etc didnt just become popular because of their features, but mainly due to costs as compared to texts at the time. The world is bigger than the US.kbz1960 likes this.09-10-13 05:36 AMLike 1 - If you do not want to share phone number or email address, then how you provide your bb id to contacts? What connection channel you use for?
Please provide usage case for that. Otherwise this is a chit-chat only.
There is a skype, if you do not want to provide phone number.
Posted via CB1009-10-13 06:29 AMLike 0 -
Anyway, today is no more care about phone number "privacy", this is paranoia
If you prefer to have separate contact list in BBM like "johny17747382" - you welcome
If you worried about your privacy - set up option "do not receive messages/phone calls from persons outside my contact list" to ON, but this is insane for communicate device - cut possible incoming contacts. I never afraid about my phone number.09-10-13 06:48 AMLike 0
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