I want BB10 predominantly, not Android
- ^But they still collect it, and make it hard for you to prevent that...
Delete Google Maps? Go ahead, says Google, we'll still track you ? The Register
BlackBerry also collects your data. The difference is they failed do anything useful with it, as no body wants their products.
http://ca.blackberry.com/legal/priva...tml#types-info
So is data collection OK if BlackBerry does it?
Unlike BlackBerry, Google gives users control over their data. You can delete all your collected data when ever you want.
https://myaccount.google.com/privacy?pli=1
At this point, I trust Google more than BlackBerry with my privacy. What ever BlackBerry did with my data, it sure wasn't targeted ads, market research, or providing decent products.jimmy zamalot and cbvinh like this.10-30-16 11:48 PMLike 2 - The OPS question/statement makes it unimportant as it is so fundamental that - concerning any working OS - it can not be true.
A statement that there is absolutely 'NO' advantage switching to Android is quite different from saying 'Hey there are many advantages staying with bb10'.
CB10 on my Classic10-31-16 12:04 AMLike 0 - The brand name was already toxic in 2010. Young people would not want to be associated with it.
The future decline was there for everyone with a bit of vision and understanding of high tech to see.
Nothing they would have done would have mattered.
The brand was tarnished and not cool.
Even if they released an iphone it would not have sold, just like apps and Google Play failed for them later.
yeah considering blackberry was at its biggest sales point in 2010 especially amongst youngsters, I'm going to have to say you're talking crap.
Edit: just saw you were referring to the US market which may have been the only place Blackberry were underperforming in 2010.
Take back that talking crap comment10-31-16 12:15 AMLike 0 -
They only started to decline majorly around 2012.
BB10 bombed them though10-31-16 12:19 AMLike 0 -
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- This is the best comment on the thread, because 1, it holds no factual statement, and because 2, it agrees with everyone, and 3, has enough commas to appear legitimate.10-31-16 04:46 AMLike 0
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It's also worth quite a bit to Google, or else they wouldn't be so profitable, because they lose money on everything else but ads through search.
If you think that your data is worthless, all you have to do is to watch the US election reality TV of how the surveillance agencies play with Donald 's and Hillary's data and release it piecemeal when and as they see fit.Last edited by sorinv; 10-31-16 at 11:00 PM.
10-31-16 08:50 PMLike 0 - Well, it's worth a lot to me that I don't use android, or Google services.
It's also worth quite a bit to Google, or else they wouldn't be so profitable, because they lose money on everything else but ads through search.
If you think that your data is worthless, all you have to do is to watch the US election reality TV of how the surveillance agencies play with Donald 's and Hillary's data and release it piecemeal when and as they see fit.
You have a right to privacy and to share whatever pieces of data to those of your choosing. It's a cost/benefit for each person. With Google services, you get many free applications that are useful, search, maps, navigation, translation, etc. and in exchange, they aggregate the data you use to sell advertising. You can certainly pay for those services or find alternatives. This very website provides its services, reviews, articles and community, for free, also in exchange for advertising to you. You made a choice that the pieces of info they request is a reasonable one... and perhaps also agree that it's okay for them to associate with Google, Facebook, etc, which know you're interested in BlackBerry because you visit here.cribble2k likes this.11-01-16 12:46 PMLike 1 -
Good job with this post OP I find it very insightful. You should start more like these. Anyone disagree?hplovecraft and oldtimeBBaddict like this.11-01-16 12:51 PMLike 2 - Google makes more money off of effective advertising, and in order for advertising to be effective, there's lots of data collection going on.
Unfortunately we're all having to make use of these technologies with increasing frequency and opting-in is becoming less optional these days.11-01-16 12:52 PMLike 0 - Google makes more money off of effective advertising, and in order for advertising to be effective, there's lots of data collection going on.
Unfortunately we're all having to make use of these technologies with increasing frequency and opting-in is becoming less optional these days.11-01-16 01:26 PMLike 0 -
- Your individual pieces of data isn't worth much, unless you have tons of money that could be stolen or you're a spend thrift. Google is profiting from advertising... to a /lot/ of people. It's the aggregation and scale that's profitable, not the individual pieces of data.
You have a right to privacy and to share whatever pieces of data to those of your choosing. It's a cost/benefit for each person. With Google services, you get many free applications that are useful, search, maps, navigation, translation, etc. and in exchange, they aggregate the data you use to sell advertising. You can certainly pay for those services or find alternatives. This very website provides its services, reviews, articles and community, for free, also in exchange for advertising to you. You made a choice that the pieces of info they request is a reasonable one... and perhaps also agree that it's okay for them to associate with Google, Facebook, etc, which know you're interested in BlackBerry because you visit here.
We live in the information society. This was predicted in the 1960's.
Information is everything.
Google realized that earlier than others and is in a lead position to exploit it.
Like any monopoly which is accountable only to its Board, it needs to be reined in.
Google doesn't provide you with apps and free services because it wants to be a charity. Sergey Brin is not Mother Theresa and neither is Eric Schmidt.
Google does so because that's how they make the most money and collect the most info.
I pay for what I need and do not use their "free" services. None of those services are vital yet or could not be replaced by others.
As for the rest, I do my best to clean up the mess behind my Web activities.
It's not bullet proof but it's been working out well so far.11-01-16 02:19 PMLike 0 -
I guess that Google are as smart as Trump because they know how to avoid paying taxes in the countries whose screens they display ads on and whose data they collect.11-01-16 02:22 PMLike 0 -
- Sure, you can also invest in nuclear weapons manufacturers and make money, or in blood diamonds. It's all based on what your priorities and ethics are... selling weapons to kill people or manipulating their thoughts while pretending to give them freebies and knowing that beggars can't be choosers.
I guess that Google are as smart as Trump because they know how to avoid paying taxes in the countries whose screens they display ads on and whose data they collect.11-01-16 03:05 PMLike 0 - By the time that decision was finally made, it was never likely to "save" BB (meaning: the hardware division). Had that decision been made in 2010 (instead of buying QNX and spending billions to develop the BB10 platform), BB might still be a sizable player in the smartphone market. But we'll never know.11-01-16 03:26 PMLike 0
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I am sure you can also find a few diamond mining companies if you do a Google search ;-)
You get the drift. It's all based on your values.
�n the process do some other than Google search to find out how much tax Google paid in Britain last year (and how much profit) and do the same for Apple in Australia...all very ethical.11-01-16 03:56 PMLike 0 -
Owning a smartphone means that we compromise those values just by the conditions they're manufactured in.11-01-16 04:01 PMLike 0 - Good grief indeed.
I think this thread just jumped the shark.
Equating Google's targeted Ads with blood diamonds ... LOLDrBoomBotz and TgeekB like this.11-01-16 04:05 PMLike 2 -
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