I have a question on Multitasking: In and out paradigm shift
- RIM says that BB 10 will have a paradigm shift, you dont have to press the hom,e button to move between apps. But doesnt Samsung Glaxy for instance have that feature? Just swipe from app to another? all apps running simultaneously? what am I missing here?
Thanks in advance for answers.09-17-12 05:20 AMLike 0 - 09-17-12 07:41 AMLike 0
- It's the same way on the current BlackBerry OS as well; press and hold the BlackBerry Key for a list of running applications. To switch, you simply select the app you want to go back to. I find it to be an incredibly handy feature of the current OS.
The difference with BB10 will be seamless application management. The app does not close or even stop processing once you switch out. It's always running until you close it.09-17-12 09:22 AMLike 0 - It's the same way on the current BlackBerry OS as well; press and hold the BlackBerry Key for a list of running applications. To switch, you simply select the app you want to go back to. I find it to be an incredibly handy feature of the current OS.
The difference with BB10 will be seamless application management. The app does not close or even stop processing once you switch out. It's always running until you close it.09-17-12 10:08 AMLike 0 - It's the same way on the current BlackBerry OS as well; press and hold the BlackBerry Key for a list of running applications. To switch, you simply select the app you want to go back to. I find it to be an incredibly handy feature of the current OS.
The difference with BB10 will be seamless application management. The app does not close or even stop processing once you switch out. It's always running until you close it.09-17-12 10:29 AMLike 0 - RIM says that BB 10 will have a paradigm shift, you dont have to press the hom,e button to move between apps. But doesn't Samsung Galaxy for instance have that feature? Just swipe from app to another? all apps running simultaneously? what am I missing here?
Thanks in advance for answers.
QNX let's everything multitask in memory protected space. By threading the processes and managing all them, not just some of them. iOS 6 is taking multitasking to a new level. But QNX is light years beyond the fear of power consumption Apple devices face.
iPad can use gesture based multitasking as well. the point is what's happening beyond what you can see or touch. the system is simply strong with QNX multitasking and multiprocessingThunderbuck likes this.09-17-12 10:43 AMLike 1 - A colleague just showed me something similar on his iPhone. When a message comes in, up pops a notification. You decide if you wish to act on it or not, and if so touch that pop-up and the OS takes you to the messages app where you do your stuff. When you want to go back to what you were previously doing, a double tap the home button brings up all the currently running apps, which you can then go into.
How is BB10 particularly different to that? Sure, it will do it a slightly different way, but what is the gain of "peek and flow" over a pretty clever and neat mechanism for doing the same thing on iOS?
And looking at the link in the post above about icons on the iOS multitasking bar merely being 'recent' apps rather than apps continuing to run in the background, is that not sensible? If BB10 has lots running continuously and concurrently won't that destroy battery life?Last edited by whitbags; 01-04-13 at 07:46 AM.
01-04-13 07:28 AMLike 0 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorA colleague just showed me something similar on his iPhone. When a message comes in, up pops a notification. You decide if you wish to act on it or not, and if so touch that pop-up and the OS takes you to the messages app where you do your stuff. When you want to go back to what you were previously doing, a double tap the home button brings up all the currently running apps, which you can then go into.
How is BB10 particularly different to that? Sure, it will do it a slightly different way, but what is the gain of "peek and flow" over a pretty clever and neat mechanism for doing the same thing on iOS?
And looking at the link in the post above about icons on the iOS multitasking bar merely being 'recent' apps rather than apps continuing to run in the background, is that not sensible? If BB10 has lots running continuously and concurrently won't that destroy battery life?
Yes, it genuinely IS different.01-04-13 09:18 AMLike 3 - A colleague just showed me something similar on his iPhone. When a message comes in, up pops a notification. You decide if you wish to act on it or not, and if so touch that pop-up and the OS takes you to the messages app where you do your stuff. When you want to go back to what you were previously doing, a double tap the home button brings up all the currently running apps, which you can then go into.
How is BB10 particularly different to that? Sure, it will do it a slightly different way, but what is the gain of "peek and flow" over a pretty clever and neat mechanism for doing the same thing on iOS?
And looking at the link in the post above about icons on the iOS multitasking bar merely being 'recent' apps rather than apps continuing to run in the background, is that not sensible? If BB10 has lots running continuously and concurrently won't that destroy battery life?
I totally agree that there are a lot of similar features on the different platforms now. Just like with everything else, people have different preferences so choice is good. I honestly don't understand why people bring this up. I think some people want to live in Soviet Russia where there is only one kind of everything...yes?01-04-13 09:48 AMLike 0 - A colleague just showed me something similar on his iPhone. When a message comes in, up pops a notification. You decide if you wish to act on it or not, and if so touch that pop-up and the OS takes you to the messages app where you do your stuff. When you want to go back to what you were previously doing, a double tap the home button brings up all the currently running apps, which you can then go into.
How is BB10 particularly different to that? Sure, it will do it a slightly different way, but what is the gain of "peek and flow" over a pretty clever and neat mechanism for doing the same thing on iOS?
And looking at the link in the post above about icons on the iOS multitasking bar merely being 'recent' apps rather than apps continuing to run in the background, is that not sensible? If BB10 has lots running continuously and concurrently won't that destroy battery life?01-04-13 09:56 AMLike 0 - It's all about the architecture. Sure, Apple and Samsung can build atop their OS's but they build in useful APIs to allow "background" functions. Give a read on how iOS Multitasking really works
QNX let's everything multitask in memory protected space. By threading the processes and managing all them, not just some of them. iOS 6 is taking multitasking to a new level. But QNX is light years beyond the fear of power consumption Apple devices face.
iPad can use gesture based multitasking as well. the point is what's happening beyond what you can see or touch. the system is simply strong with QNX multitasking and multiprocessing
I think the BB10 solution will be best for my needs. The benefits might seem minor, but messaging is perhaps the primary feature of the phone that will be used hundreds of times a day.01-04-13 12:18 PMLike 0 - ^ Yea, I want to know this too. If the rumored 2GB is being put into the BB10 devices does that mean more than 8 apps will be able to run in the active frames??01-05-13 01:18 AMLike 0
- Yall swipe from the top, BB users would swipe from the bottom bezel and to the left. Also the HUB is Not just for messages.You can peek and see your Missed Calls, Messages, Email, and Social Networks...maybe more. Find out in a few weeks.01-05-13 01:34 PMLike 0
- Both designs accomplish the same basic action. I think the hub will be focused on notifications more than anything while Android can pretty much add anything you want to the drop down01-05-13 01:45 PMLike 0
- Bold_until_Hybrid_ComesWaterloo's FinestIn and out is archaic. Imagine doing that on a home computer???
Ultimately the goal for mobile computing is to catch up to regular/stationary computing, as that continues to advance as well. Referring to the most used computer OS (Windows), Regular computing allows multiple programs to be running at once. You can switch back and forth without seeing your desktop screen. I would even argue that Blackberry 10 is more like a traditional windows OS then WP8, in sense that it has minimized windows (active frames) displayed for you to open up without exiting out of them.
It appears iOS is last place in terms of functionality in my mind (in terms of getting in and out of an app). Of course the natural argument to this is the number of sales and users iOS has. This is a fairly weak argument, as the sales declines to not begin until well after the sentiment/paradigm shift has begun. Apple will have to change the core usability of the OS to catch up, or create a new OS as they are in the same boat as RIM was with an old system that is stretched near its intended limits. Mind you, there are still a few years left of the legacy iOS.01-05-13 01:47 PMLike 0 -
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