Well at least not yet.... But that is what they are push for.
I agree that if it stops a bad person from doing more bad things... that's a good thing.
The only issues is what might be legal in the US, is not legal in Russia.
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Well at least not yet.... But that is what they are push for.
I agree that if it stops a bad person from doing more bad things... that's a good thing.
The only issues is what might be legal in the US, is not legal in Russia.
It's a real stab in the back for BlackBerry to want $$$ for end to end encryption on BBM when other services offer it for free.
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It does seem to conflict with their marketing.
They were able to buy a zero day exploit for over $1 million apparently. However, the exploit does not work for iOS 9 or 64bit iPhones.
The video you posted referred to a beta version of 9.3. The latest version of iOS is 9.3.1.
If by unstable you mean actively developed then I agree, iOS is much less stable than BB10.
Fast calculation states $1.5million worth hack.
(sorry, I still listen to air radio, no link ! Serious information radio thoug)
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Here are the latest stats for the National Vulnerability Database (Apple is doing a little better so far this year but look at its history):
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Also, here's an article about the keychain issue that to my knowledge still hasn't been fixed as it would require a re-write of most iOS and Mac OS applications:
Major zero-day security flaws in iOS & OS X allow theft of both Keychain and app passwords | 9to5Mac
I think Apple does a great job giving its users a false sense of security. Android OS is a less modified version of Unix / Linux than iOS. A lot of architectural compromises were made with iOS to create that fast user experience and high level of convenience it has. Just like with Microsoft Windows, once you make those compromises early in the design of the OS, it's hard to fix later.
BB10 was built with a security focus from the beginning. Of course this can make for a somewhat less consumer friendly experience.
Android is inherently secure but Google Play can be dicey and your best bet is to be careful with what you download and install. Of course the privacy of Android comes into question simply due to the data collection revenue model.
Again, didn't want to jump on the grenade but there seems to be a lot of misinformation out there about Apple.
I'm late to the topic but I'd like to share my two cents.
Chen is honest. He just tells the truth.
Security is expensive, intelligence is cheaper. And NSA/FBI are richer than BlackBerry/Microsoft.
I've said earlier here on CB that there're basically two types of backdoors: key implanting (aka NSAKEY) and key escrow (aka Clipper chip, Fortezza card). What hasn't said is how these techniques are called by (at least some) government cryptographers in my country: in their jargons, MS technique stands for NSAKEY, and BB technique, ehm, for Clipper/Fortezza.
Snowden chose to reveal his identity when he opened NSA's scandal because he knew he can't keep it (his identity) secret.
That said, I agree with the OP.
Disclaimer: I'm not a crypto guy.
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While I'm convinced that iOS is much less secure than BB10, I still would admit that iOS is secure enough.
If you have to spend $1,5 million to hack my phone, so be it. ;)
In general I never judge a OS (or person or anything) only by the experience of a few months.
I look rather at years and then I judge.
So, by "unstable" I do not mean "under development".
If you look back at the last three years, BB10 and iOS were both "continously developed".
iOS was catching up with security and stole a lot of features from BB10, while BB10 was catching up with feature but also got further security improvments.
However, iOS 8 and iOS9 have been very buggy on release.
BB10 had a few bugs as well, but I don't think it plays in the same league like iOS8/9.
BB10 was rootable only once on relase mid on 2013 and then never again.
iOS is rootable since first release a decade ago, but perhaps, *maybe* there will no jailbreak for iOS 9.3.1.
So, which of these two OSes looks more stable?
The one that had only 1 jailbreak in its history or the one that had dozen jailbreaks?
The funny part about apple is that some no name hacker was able to compromise Apple so called "amazing encryption" without a key. So what do you think about that? Bottom line is Blackberry phones cannot and i repeat cannot be hacked. Now it seems that after years of trying to get DOD certificatrion, DOD is going to to go with BB phones and Microsoft desktop, as well as BES12 , for all their needs. Stop trying to shamelessly promote Apple products,as the most secure where facts have proven time and time again they are not! The latest Apple escapade is just a publicity stunt, and it seems like you fell for it!
That has got absolutely NOTHING to do with 'Device security' (the post). That is IM security.
On that note.... the Govt DOES have a 'master method' for breaking into all but the newest iPhones. Boing.
BBM protected is nothing but the same BBM where BES is being run by blackberry servers. How can you trust Chen won't give out the key to governments and authorities? On top of it, why should I pay for end to end encryption when there are plenty of apps that do it for free? What happens to the data exchanged by BBM protected once you stop paying for it? The person I am messaging to has not subscribed, which means not protected. No thanks.
Blackberry always seem to be behind the curve. Always late to the party.
No.
Encrypted, secure mobile messaging ? BBM Protected - Global
(scroll down to "Protect data in transit")Messages between BBM Protected users are encrypted using a PGP like model. The sender and recipient have unique public/private encryption and signing keys.
And they're 100% trustable, safe, with a long history to demonstrate it ?
(add the device security, as mentioned above)
Good question,but I really don't believe the "other" will be able to retrieve the data if you're not a subscriber anymore, the model seems to require a pair of valid keys [will ask and respond later, once I have a technical answer].=> see edit at the bottom pls.
P.S: and what happens with the "other" messaging apps you have in mind ? What if you stop using WA, for instance ?
As for being late ... lol ... AFAIK, others are trying to catch up (stacking & patching layers over layers) while there's been no drastic changes in BlackBerry security model for ages, without compromise. BlackBerry's "end to end" mantra is here from day one and security IS the bottom layer of anything. This is not how "others" are dealing with it ... because they simply can't, unless they rethink the whole thing.
Edit : I got a response from BlackBerry : "The data being sent stays on the device, that's it. User can keep or delete if needed. It's just a different format of encryption". But I'm still confused about what you mean - the real life scenario. Since you communicated securely with someone and delivered message(s) he can read, what do you expect as a "more secure" behavior ?
GI Joe uses BBM protected.
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Zero-Knowledge Services might be the best for both parties, user/subscriber as well as provider...
:-D
It's probably not as consumer-friendly to set up (maybe?), and BlackBerry can't differentiate their enterprise-level services vs the consumer-facing ones (BBM Protected vs BBM standard) if they offer this kind of protection for both services levels.
A zero-knowledge provider can just do a Pontius Pilate and wash their hands. At least they might try...
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No it does not. It has a way to break in to certain models of iPhone. We don't know how many models the back would work on. We do know it won't work on the 64bit phones.
Btw Edward Snowden uses Open Whisper systems Signal app for messaging, so that says a lot from a paranoid ex-NSA employee.
https://whispersystems.org/