The Hub and Marshmallow email
- So, let me get this straight... BlackBerry that had BIS for push email from the start that other smartphone users loathed, have now all come full circle and are providing push services from their own cloud servers to try and extend battery life which BlackBerry has always done pretty well? Apple iCloud and Google cloud messaging? Blackberry will be shutting down BIS just in time for everyone to point and laugh at how far behind the times BlackBerry is because they don't have their own cloud push services anymore unless you're on BES. The irony of this I killing me.
Typed from my AT&T passportQ10Bold likes this.10-16-15 09:04 AMLike 1 - Like someone mentioned the Chinese had a go at it "Operation Aurora " https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...767_story.html
The disturbing part is that there was a need for a court order for them "Google " to admit it.
In other words don't expect them to readily admit that they were compromised
Your "Privacy" is only as "secure"as much as you have control over it and vice versa.
Yes BlackBerry has been moving more in that direction. Especially with the arrival of the Priv.
Posted via CB1010-16-15 09:06 AMLike 0 - Like someone mentioned the Chinese had a go at it "Operation Aurora " https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...767_story.html
The disturbing part is that there was a need for a court order for them "Google " to admit it.
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The link tells a story quite the opposite of what you just said10-16-15 09:14 AMLike 0 -
They were left with no other alternative but to go "Public " however in the court order no reference was made to it.
Posted via CB1010-16-15 09:28 AMLike 0 - "Although Google disclosed an intrusion by Chinese hackers in 2010, it made no reference to the breach of the database with information on court orders."
They were left with no other alternative but to go "Public " however in the court order no reference was made to it.
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It's saying that Google went public about the hack, but did not tell the public about the fact it's servers containing court orders had been compromised also.
These would be Court Orders to Google regarding information on Individuals
They instead informed the FBI who carried out an investigation, during which Google refused access to their servers as it was not sure on the outcome.
The outcome was no threat to national security was deemed.techvisor likes this.10-16-15 09:39 AMLike 1 - Thats not what the article is saying.
It's saying that Google went public about the hack, but did not tell the public about the fact it's servers containing court orders had been compromised also.
These would be Court Orders to Google regarding information on Individuals
They instead informed the FBI who carried out an investigation, during which Google refused access to their servers as it was not sure on the outcome.
The outcome was no threat to national security was deemed.
Point is , NO one or any organization should ever have the ability to collect, store, share dispose of any information gleaned from ones personal email or writings in an effort to keep us "safe " . The ramifications are enormous. Especially as the Chinese hack proved ,if that information gets into the wrong hands.
Posted via CB1010-16-15 09:51 AMLike 0 - The question that you must have asked is who prompted Google to go Public. Further more since that time Google entered into an "alliance with the NSA. Indeed in their revised terms of service there is this paragraph, "Under Google’s terms of service, the company advises its users that it may share their “personal information” with outside organizations, including government agencies, in order to “detect, prevent, or otherwise address fraud, security or technical issues” and to “protect against harm to the rights, property or safety of Google.
Point is , NO one or any organization should ever have the ability to collect, store, share dispose of any information gleaned from ones personal email or writings in an effort to keep us "safe " . The ramifications are enormous. Especially as the Chinese hack proved ,if that information gets into the wrong hands.
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And yes i know those terms, Blackberry also has those terms. So you can say the same thing about them.
The thing with Google is that a lot of publicity has been made about them forcing Government bodies to obtain court orders instead of just handing over data on requesttechvisor likes this.10-16-15 09:56 AMLike 1 - In the article it states that the nature of the attack itself prompted Google to go public.
And yes i know those terms, Blackberry also has those terms. So you can say the same thing about them.
The thing with Google is that a lot of publicity has been made about them forcing Government bodies to obtain court orders instead of just handing over data on request
We have encountered enough episodes in history ,whereby, the human will has been suppressed by individuals who had power over them by use of personal information. Google plays both sides of the coin on one hand they say that they promote the sharing of information by freedom of speech, keeping you safe, etc, yet on the other hand they allow for that information to be abused.
Let me go further, Google allows for extortion of individuals, identity theft,embarrassment, exploitation etc etc whether it's done unintentionally or not it must be curtailed. It's a "tool " that if used in the right way can work to make life easier, however with their current model, it's a dangerous thing.
Posted via CB1010-16-15 10:14 AMLike 0 - I had with the stock email client on my Nexus and Google recommended to me that I should use a third party apps. I chose Aqua. It works fine. I have had no indications that my mail has been data mined but it might be. I tend to ignore it.
I think I will send myself a piece of mail about some subject to see if some how It comes up via the Google "home page" of suggested topics that I might be interested in.
Posted via CB1010-16-15 01:09 PMLike 0 - The "compromise" comes from within, have a read :
http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...-terms-clarify
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Google has a reputation of being secure. You don't understand the topic well enough.
Posted via CB10techvisor likes this.10-16-15 02:17 PMLike 1 - I'm just going to shut the Doze service off. It's that easy!
Blackberry Z10 was the beginning. The Z30 is my upgrade10-16-15 04:35 PMLike 0 -
- Privacy != security. They are two different animals. Related, but not the same.
Scanning emails for targetted ads as per agreed terms of use/service is not a security issue. Allowing email accounts to login without passwords or protections, would be a security issue.
Google is one of the leaders in encryption, SSL everywhere, two factor authentication, etc. They are not impenetrable, but tell me who isn't? There are tons and tons of fortune 500 and governments and banks who are hacked all the time.
If the only hacks on Google are by state sponsored hackers, they are relatively pretty secure.techvisor likes this.10-16-15 07:33 PMLike 1 - *whoosh*
How did you miss the million threads on the new BlackBerry PRIV, short for privacy?
PRIV also introduces the exclusive DTEK™ by BlackBerry warning system app to provide you with the power of privacy.BlackBerry respects your privacy and will never share your information.10-16-15 08:01 PMLike 0 - Didn't Chen say BB10 would stay for government? Maybe we'll get two more years solid out of it before they start phasing it out.
Posted via Z10darkehawke and bh7171 like this.10-16-15 08:38 PMLike 2 - Privacy != security. They are two different animals. Related, but not the same.
Scanning emails for targetted ads as per agreed terms of use/service is not a security issue. Allowing email accounts to login without passwords or protections, would be a security issue.
Google is one of the leaders in encryption, SSL everywhere, two factor authentication, etc. They are not impenetrable, but tell me who isn't? There are tons and tons of fortune 500 and governments and banks who are hacked all the time.
If the only hacks on Google are by state sponsored hackers, they are relatively pretty secure.
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Jahcure likes this.10-16-15 10:00 PMLike 1 -
- We'll from what I've been able to find out, denverralphy is correct. GCM won't involve data mining email, unless developers intentionally wrote their apps that way. So Google's servers shouldn't see email going to the Hub, unless of course it's gmail. Developers are annoyed because they seemingly now have to rewrite email apps to use GCM. If their apps are also on non-Google Android, those apps are now forked.
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk10-17-15 06:29 AMLike 0 - This is exactly what I don't like. Sobyour third party email client must allow for your email to-be sent to Google servers first and then you can receive emails when the phone is nothing use. Why is this even allowed? Why would Google do this? I know why, it's so they can mine your information that's why. Even more reason why I'll pass on this Priv contraption that has been created. Bad move by blackberry, bad move. Blackberry mobile is dead. Time for a new phone. Maybe apple had it right all along, maybe
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android10-17-15 06:40 AMLike 0 - So, let me get this straight... BlackBerry that had BIS for push email from the start that other smartphone users loathed, have now all come full circle and are providing push services from their own cloud servers to try and extend battery life which BlackBerry has always done pretty well? Apple iCloud and Google cloud messaging? Blackberry will be shutting down BIS just in time for everyone to point and laugh at how far behind the times BlackBerry is because they don't have their own cloud push services anymore unless you're on BES. The irony of this I killing me.
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