[conite]

Hardly, because BBAndy would never have got past a interns laughable suggestion of such tie up.

BlackBerry has built up a considerable portfolio of software because of its foray into Android.

They now have a potential recurring revenue stream from licencing and subscriptions of Android software.

They also have a potential way of monetizing their keyboard patent which was basically useless when tied to BB10 devices.

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[StephanieMaks]

With the hand dealt by years of Mike/Jim/Thorsten, and without a time machine, what other path would the hemorrhaging-billions BlackBerry of November 2013 have other than retreat or bankruptcy?

Well, they did put themselves up for sale, so that was another option. Couldn't manage to sell the company though. I bet they just didn't market it well enough.

[early2bed]

BlackBerry has built up a considerable portfolio of software because of its foray into Android.

They now have a potential recurring revenue stream from licencing and subscriptions of Android software.

They also have a potential way of monetizing their keyboard patent which was basically useless when tied to BB10 devices.

Isn't Android the smartphone platform where mobile developers have a hard time making any money and that most successful apps are free?

Is the reason we don't have any keyboard smartphones because BlackBerry held all the patents?

[cgk]

the best known method for silencing the evil voices is to enter the fanboy echo chamber and repeat your favorite rhetoric over and over.

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[last_attempt]

Baring a miracle it seems they will be reduced to a small app making and truck tracking gadget maker in a few years time.



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[Orange UK]

BlackBerry has built up a considerable portfolio of software because of its foray into Android.

They now have a potential recurring revenue stream from licencing and subscriptions of Android software.

They also have a potential way of monetizing their keyboard patent which was basically useless when tied to BB10 devices.

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So tell me is that Android revenue even near BIS revenue and what century will it be ?


ERM...we had BB10 with keyboards, it was not 'basically useless' after BBOS

[thurask]

Well, they did put themselves up for sale, so that was another option. Couldn't manage to sell the company though. I bet they just didn't market it well enough.

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Price: $5 billion or first offer
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[Orange UK]

Baring a miracle it seems they will be reduced to a small app making and truck tracking gadget maker in a few years time.



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Quarters, not years, not financial year, QUARTERS.



BUDDY, can you spare me a dime ?
(Apple)

[conite]

So tell me is that Android revenue even near BIS revenue and what century will it be ?


ERM...we had BB10 with keyboards, it was not 'basically useless' after BBOS

What is the point of comparing revenues with BIS? It was gone anyway.

The keyboard has value now because of the Android drivers and software that BlackBerry had to code when moving to BlackBerry Android hardware (Priv). It can now be licenced to Android device makers.

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[cgk]

I am genuinely puzzled what value keyboard patents have?

They seem to have as much value as buggy whip patents.

[Orange UK]

What is the point of comparing revenues with BIS? It was gone anyway.

The keyboard has value now because of the Android drivers and software that BlackBerry had to code when moving to BlackBerry Android hardware (Priv). It can now be licenced to Android device makers.

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Why do companies compare revenue inside and out ? Survival, market share, shareholders etc etc

A virtual BB keyboard... another Andy keyboard is setting no revenue on fire for BB, ever.

[Orange UK]

I am genuinely puzzled what value keyboard patents have?

They seem to have as much value as buggy whip patents.

They have as much value as a free Play keyboard, maybe if they make the BB KB virtual people will move over to BB hardware, just like the BBOS users moved to BB10 $uce$$



Oh no hold the press, the hardware division ends 2016....

[conite]

I am genuinely puzzled what value keyboard patents have?

They seem to have as much value as buggy whip patents.

We'll see I guess. I would tend to agree, but Chen seemed to suggest he had a licencing deal in place already for the keyboard.

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[conite]

Why do companies compare revenue inside and out ? Survival, market share, shareholders etc etc

A virtual BB keyboard... another Andy keyboard is setting no revenue on fire for BB, ever.

What now? Why compare a new revenue stream to an old, almost defunct revenue stream? You do what you can today, and going forward.

I'm not talking about the virtual keyboard. I'm talking about licencing the physical keyboard hardware and software to Android device partners.

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[Orange UK]

We'll see I guess. I would tend to agree, but Chen seemed to suggest he had a licencing deal in place already for the keyboard.

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Chen/BB spin (as per) trying to start a bidding war for a BB licence, a keyboard licence loooooool


A exclusive licence stays that until agreement then press release.

[last_attempt]

Quarters, not years, not financial year, QUARTERS.



BUDDY, can you spare me a dime ?
(Apple)

Ugh,your probably right. Not that it matters now as its all water under the bridge but seeing what happening now I wish they had stuck with bb10 with one pkb model and one non. Maybe with larger screens like the pp had so that a good browser could get some people over the app gap?





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[conite]

Chen/BB spin (as per) trying to start a bidding war for a BB licence, a keyboard licence loooooool


A exclusive licence stays that until agreement then press release.

You seem to be a very angry person.

Throwing **** every which way to see what sticks. Lol.

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[Orange UK]

[QUOTE=conite;12609316]What now? Why compare a new revenue stream to an old, almost defunct revenue stream? You do what you can today, and going forward.

I'm not talking about the virtual keyboard. I'm talking about licencing the physical keyboard hardware and software to Android device partners.

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Because shareholders dictate to rightfully know, ah so BB10 going forward, like Thorn, bin.

You honestly think a BB keyboard licence is going to appease shareholders? Its small fry, $25 million a year tops, AND that is a very high overestimate.

[conite]

[QUOTE=Orange UK;12609332]

What now? Why compare a new revenue stream to an old, almost defunct revenue stream? You do what you can today, and going forward.

I'm not talking about the virtual keyboard. I'm talking about licencing the physical keyboard hardware and software to Android device partners.

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Because shareholders dictate to rightfully know, ah so BB10 going forward, like Thorn, bin.

You honestly think a BB keyboard licence is going to appease shareholders? Its small fry, $25 million a year tops, AND that is a very high overestimate.

OK. Fine. But isn't any revenue better than none? I'm not sure what you're arguing here.

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[Orange UK]

[QUOTE=conite;12609329]You seem to be a very angry person.

Throwing **** every which way to see what sticks. Lol.

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angry? Lol, professional, looking at overpaid idiots, love my BBOS/BIS, love my BB10 - hate all the underspec hard tech.

The software works, the slap dash hardware its put on has never lived auto its software - that's BB problem. Even outsourcing it offers nothing to the competition/market in spec with cheaper production.



throwing S*** and seeing what sticks LOL, that's BB for you, not me no not I.

[Orange UK]

Ugh,your probably right. Not that it matters now as its all water under the bridge but seeing what happening now I wish they had stuck with bb10 with one pkb model and one non. Maybe with larger screens like the pp had so that a good browser could get some people over the app gap?





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App gaps and software gaps can be done in hindsight (BB the king of it!), going back and changing hardware cant.

[Orange UK]

[QUOTE=conite;12609334]

OK. Fine. But isn't any revenue better than none? I'm not sure what you're arguing here.

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Miniscule revenue for maximum dilution of BB brand, not that that damage isn't high enough.


BB sell security, not apps and keyboard licences.... eye off the ball.

[darkehawke]

Isn't Android the smartphone platform where mobile developers have a hard time making any money and that most successful apps are free?

Is the reason we don't have any keyboard smartphones because BlackBerry held all the patents?

Nope.
Android had a great keyboard device, which many preferred over a BBKB, in the Milestone.

The masses just didn't want it.

Smartphones are a business, not a charity. if 500 people prefer touch screen and 5 people prefer pkb, then OEMs are not going to service the 5 people

[Sairos]

"How Does One Silence The Critics About BlackBerry Being Dead?"

One shots them, certainly.

[donnation]

You silence them by agreeing and moving on.