1. Slash82's Avatar
    Hi friends,
    Got a question to all those Android experts among you.

    I was a BBOS and OS10 power-user, but I never really stepped into that Android-Berry-world myself.

    But a friend asked me something to that and maybe some you could give me some advise:

    A friend came up to me, because he wanted to buy his mother a DTK50 for christmas. She wants a smartphone and he wanted to buy her a "secure device" for her first steps into the mobile internet.

    Also prices for the DTEK50 have dropped to 199€ over here - so that price tag in combination with monthly security patches sounds promising to him.

    Do you think thats still a good deal?
    Or will BlackBerry drop those devices in near future?
    (no Android Oreo needed for her purposes).
    12-14-17 12:56 PM
  2. conite's Avatar
    Marshmallow will no longer receive security updates probably sometime in the next 6 months. That would be the biggest issue in my mind.

    Having BlackBerry Integrity Detection will offer extra resilience compared to most other Android devices, but security patches are an important part that will be missing.

    In good conscience, going forward, I could only recommend the Motion or the KEYᵒⁿᵉ.
    12-14-17 01:00 PM
  3. Slash82's Avatar
    Marshmallow will no longer receive security updates probably sometime in the next 6 months. That would be the biggest issue in my mind.

    Having BlackBerry Integrity Detection will offer extra resilience compared to most other Android devices, but security patches are an important part that will be missing.

    In good conscience, going forward, I could only recommend the Motion or the KEYᵒⁿᵉ.
    Thanks for that quick reply!
    The thing is that the Motion (should be a full touch) is about double the price.
    Didn't know that those patches will stop kinda soon - I will tell him that.

    But if you see the "security side of things" - IF those patches will stop, would it still make any sense to recommend it to him?
    Or would it be kind of "burning money" for that "rest of the BlackBerry security"?
    12-14-17 01:10 PM
  4. conite's Avatar
    Thanks for that quick reply!
    The thing is that the Motion (should be a full touch) is about double the price.
    Didn't know that those patches will stop kinda soon - I will tell him that.

    But if you see the "security side of things" - IF those patches will stop, would it still make any sense to recommend it to him?
    Or would it be kind of "burning money" for that "rest of the BlackBerry security"?
    Burning money? Nah. Just not ideal.

    There are millions upon millions of Android devices out there being used that are not getting any patches. But you just have to be extra vigilant. Surf safe!
    12-14-17 01:29 PM
  5. Zeratul57's Avatar
    I'd think it would be good enough for mom. My lands... is she really being targeted that much about where she will go and do on a phone? Get a dtek 50.

    Sent from one of my SE Passports using BB10 superior software.
    12-14-17 01:45 PM
  6. Slash82's Avatar
    Burning money? Nah. Just not ideal.

    There are millions upon millions of Android devices out there being used that are not getting any patches. But you just have to be extra vigilant. Surf safe!
    Thanks for your advise!
    12-14-17 02:03 PM
  7. Slash82's Avatar
    I'd think it would be good enough for mom. My lands... is she really being targeted that much about where she will go and do on a phone? Get a dtek 50.

    Sent from one of my SE Passports using BB10 superior software.
    Thank you for your reply.
    The thing is, he is kinda worried that she will (accidentally) click on a spam mail or something like that.
    "Elder people" tend to: "Oh what is that? I click on it."

    So it would be ideal if she is protected.
    Hope it makes sense? My friend and I had a long talk about that.
    12-14-17 02:05 PM
  8. Invictus0's Avatar
    Thank you for your reply.
    The thing is, he is kinda worried that she will (accidentally) click on a spam mail or something like that.
    "Elder people" tend to: "Oh what is that? I click on it."

    So it would be ideal if she is protected.
    Hope it makes sense? My friend and I had a long talk about that.
    In that case I think the only realistic options your friend would have are the Keyone or Motion. Many of the major vulnerabilities on Android this year have required patches on BB Android (as did regular Android). BB Android's major security advantage is for root based attacks where rooting is either prevented or undone on device reboot, so far its held up.

    If he just needs a cheap device that gets monthly security updates, I think the Nokia 5 or 6 are worth looking into but an older iPhone (like the 6S or SE) is probably your best option if it's for a parent (iOS is pretty locked down and depending on the device you should still get 2-3 years of updates).
    12-14-17 05:31 PM
  9. skstrials's Avatar
    Thank you for your reply.
    The thing is, he is kinda worried that she will (accidentally) click on a spam mail or something like that.
    "Elder people" tend to: "Oh what is that? I click on it."

    So it would be ideal if she is protected.
    Hope it makes sense? My friend and I had a long talk about that.
    Honestly, I think a Dtek should be more than fine. A Dtek50 costs half of a Motion's price.

    He won't have any security issues if he uses only play store apps, and don't watch porns on shady websites.
    12-19-17 03:03 PM
  10. Invictus0's Avatar
    Honestly, I think a Dtek should be more than fine. A Dtek50 costs half of a Motion's price.

    He won't have any security issues if he uses only play store apps, and don't watch porns on shady websites.
    Many critical and headline grabbing Android vulnerabilities from this year had nothing to do with apps, if that trend continues you'll basically be out of luck once patching stops, regardless of the apps you use. Assuming the user cares about security/updates of course.
    12-19-17 05:17 PM
  11. Bbnivende's Avatar
    In the UK , the Lenovo P2 and the Moto G4 are both highly rated budget phones at 169 pounds.

    The BlackBerry Motion is not a budget phone and I can not even fathom purchasing a Dtek 50 .

    Is a Dtek 50 significantly better than a Alcatel Pixel 4 at 59 pounds ?
    12-19-17 06:36 PM
  12. BlackBerryPassport's Avatar
    Don't rely on Blackdroid. Buy other brand devices apart from BlackBerry. It will be worth it

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    12-19-17 08:57 PM
  13. bh7171's Avatar
    I would stay away from the DTEK50 And 60. They are step children abandoned from the mother ship. Motorola G5 is a good option with a nice take on Android. Plenty safe and will certainly get Oreo.

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    12-19-17 10:09 PM
  14. sandroteti's Avatar
    I got the priv even tho it's not getting any updates I still use it as a daily I put avast security on it since we aren't getting any more updates you friend can put avast security on his mom's phone
    12-20-17 05:14 AM

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