Has BlackBerry ditched Canada & U.S consumers
- Smaller yes, dead no. That would mean they were bankrupt, ceased operations completely or were sold off none of which has happened. As much as the lot of you want a duopoly they're still in the game as a smaller player but in regardless.12-22-13 12:34 PMLike 5
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If BB focuses on low-end "developing" markets then they will not be able to retain the level of software development we have been accustomed to. If BB focuses on "enterprise" then expect low sell through volumes (and again less $ to reinvest in the product and R&D).
I understand that Chen may have little choice - but don't critize the OP for a reasonable post.12-22-13 12:36 PMLike 8 - Yes, they will be able to make cheaper devices... and they will probably be able to better compete on price with the cheaper Android devices.
But I don't believe the Google Play support. Why would Google allow Blackberry (ie. the competition) access to Google Play when it could take away some of Android's marketshare. While I think that's just a pipe-dream that BB having access to Google Play will make much of a difference - I don't see Google allowing it anyway.
The Blackberry name is DIRT... MUD really. Most people will just avoid Blackberry altogether because of all the negative connotations associated with it. Plus, if people want access to the Android ecosystem - they'll buy an Android device. Simple as that.
Every step of the way since Blackberry tried to make a comeback with BB10, everyone here has been disappointed. Yet, there are those who still hold out hope - even though there's really no reason to believe it will get better. It will NOT work out... it's over.bungaboy likes this.12-22-13 12:38 PMLike 1 - What would Google get out of allowing BlackBerry Google Play access, other than po'ing Android vendors currently kept on a strict leash?12-22-13 01:01 PMLike 2
- Just assuming Blackberry is exiting the consumer market in NA, what words will a CEO use to break it in an earnings call.
Would it not be something similar to what was said...
Do you expect him to say "we will make sure none of you in NA are able to buy a Blackberry" ?
Sent from my iPad using CB Forums mobile app12-22-13 01:14 PMLike 0 - If they are going to sell enterprise units, they will most likely still sell through carriers. Enterprise purchases of devices are through carries i.e. have arrangements with bell / rogers etc... If they are available through carries, I'm sure you can get you hands on a unit if you want one.12-22-13 01:14 PMLike 0
- Just assuming Blackberry is exiting the consumer market in NA, what words will a CEO use to break it in an earnings call.
Would it not be something similar to what was said...
Do you expect him to say "we will make sure none of you in NA are able to buy a Blackberry" ?
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Are people who work in regulated industries like banking, finance, government, and the military consumers or not?
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What has been failed to addressed is how dominating the Indonesian market will save Blackberry. The Indonesian market is smaller and much less affluent than the US market. Heck, its much smaller and a bit less affluent than the Chinese market and, tbh, there has never been much value in even the much hyped Chinese market. Companies like Oppo and Jiayu and Meizu are not rolling in cash.
In order for Blackberry to maintain itself, it will need Indonesia and India and a bunch of other developing nations, many of which it has no stronghold in. Also, it is crucial to note none of the low end OEMs in any developing nations have the resources to support an entire OS. At best, they have a forked Android.
So what I'd like to know is how Blackberry intends to make big money off of Indonesia. As I see it, even a successful strategy will mean the retirement of BB10 and possibly the end of the company.12-22-13 02:27 PMLike 2 -
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Posted via CB1012-22-13 03:03 PMLike 0 - The app issue aside, if the US, Canadian and Australian consumer markets have been led into inferior products through clever marketing, peer pressure and poor press, then its their loss and will suffer limited access to BB.
Chen is a very clever man. The emerging markets offer over a billion customers eager to enjoy what the west has had to offer. There will be enormous status for BB users in the east.
Their largest markets now are in what are loosely defined as emerging economies.12-22-13 03:22 PMLike 0 - It's over -- there's no such thing as an "enterprise only" customer unless BB thinks it has the heft and influence to go against the BYOD trend that has been written/talked about ad nauseum for the past few years. Focusing on
"enterprise only" would only make sense if the market continued to exist.12-22-13 03:22 PMLike 2 -
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- Once again, listen to the earnings call. Do your research. You will see that by outsourcing to Foxconn, BlackBerry is now free to focus on monetizing its software offerings and expanding solutions for the enterprise sector (government and corporate). At least Indonesia and about 7 other emerging markets, consumers will be able to purchase a BlackBerry.
Poetry in Motion12-22-13 04:00 PMLike 0 - This thread is funny. Let's out it this way: Q5 was designed for "mid range" as it supports LTE but was cheaper than Q10. They definitely had a "Q3" in the works as well, like the lower-end Curve family of old. These are now going to be made by Foxconn instead of their US / German / Canadian design teams (the majority of which are part of that 4500 person layoff). Whatever remaining "in-house" design teams will work on replacements for Q10 and Z30. That's it. Two devices a year for Enterprise, maybe 1-2 a year for "consumer", which means entry tier, which means no LTE, WVGA screens, etc. That product won't sell in NA anyhow because no carrier will range it without LTE.techvisor likes this.12-22-13 04:52 PMLike 1
- My opinion is that if BlackBerry is to survive, it will regain popularity the same way it grew to begin with.
Enterprise customers will force their employees to use a BlackBerry. Employees will go "Hey, this is a nice phone." will show it off to friends and family. Eventually friends and family will want to buy one.
BYOD is the solution now... and no one wants a BB. Employers see no reason to force it as BYOD is saving them money, and with iOS/Android - there are A LOT more productivity apps available for them. What will make employers abandon all that costs savings and productivity apps? Security? Nope, that won't do it. They'll spend some extra money implementing a MDM at the firm to secure things up - that's more than enough, and they don't have to give up the HUGE benefits of going BYOD.
You can't turn back the clock.12-22-13 04:55 PMLike 2 - The BlackBerry started in "Enterprise" and then grew into "Prosumer" and finally "Consumer". The same thing will happen again. They are firing most of the people they brought on to develop 10+ handsets a year that were largely indistinguishable from each other. Consider "Bold" as Enterprise, "Torch" as Prosumer and "Curve" as Consumer (Pearl has been dead since before BB7). They are outsourcing the cheap phones to China and will only sell them in Emerging markets. They will keep high end in-house and sell these everywhere there is LTE support. There won't be "middle" phones anymore, which just means nothing like Q5 or Z10 again.12-22-13 05:01 PMLike 0
- The title of this thread is stupid. There are millions who fiercely demand a Blackberry Phone who are consumers, prosumers or whatever and we will be able to get it too.12-22-13 05:09 PMLike 0
- The Jakarta series is only set for release to 7 countries including Indonesia obviously and Chen said Malaysia. This is the smart play to go low end next first. They still need to sell off existing inventory of Z10/Q10/Q5 devices
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