Has BlackBerry ditched Canada & U.S consumers
- amazinglygracelessRetired ModThis is somewhat incorrect in my opinion. Were it true that the devices you listed were intended primarily for business use BlackBerry would not have gone in the direction of cameras, expandable memory and multimedia capability. Those devices were BlackBerry's attempt at getting into the consumer space by giving them features that all previous BlackBerry's lacked and a lot of smartphones included.12-21-13 05:57 PMLike 3
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- This is somewhat incorrect in my opinion. Were it true that the devices you listed were intended primarily for business use BlackBerry would not have gone in the direction of cameras, expandable memory and multimedia capability. Those devices were BlackBerry's attempt at getting into the consumer space by giving them features that all previous BlackBerry's lack and a lot of smartphones included.
Poetry in Motion12-21-13 06:00 PMLike 0 - I think what many missed yesterday during the earnings call was this statement from Chen:
"For the foreseeable future, our designers in North America will focus on enterprise ONLY. This does not imply, in the long term, we?re not going to get ourselves back into the consumer space in North America."
And of course that made investors happy and the stock rose as a result. Canada and the US will not see any more phones developed/designed for the consumer market. No running into Rogers, Telus, Bell, Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile to pick up the latest BlackBerry. It will be interesting to see how long carriers continue to sell online. BlackBerry will continue to leverage BBM?s popularity.
Time to stock up on BlackBerry phones. Lol. We won't see another one until Jakarta is released and it won't be sold in Canada and U.S.
Poetry in Motion
Z/Q10 are just under a year old... most people that bought it are on contract for at least one more year, some two.
For me, this doesnt hurt at all. they can focus on what they do best... in one or two years the release a new consumer device that WILL actually sell, rather than bomb.
also, im sure there will be ways for people to buy BB phones if they want to. maybe more expensive up front, or per month... but if there is a will, there is a way.anon(5624621) and anon8091350 like this.12-21-13 06:15 PMLike 2 -
Posted via CB10bungaboy likes this.12-21-13 06:24 PMLike 1 - This is somewhat incorrect in my opinion. Were it true that the devices you listed were intended primarily for business use BlackBerry would not have gone in the direction of cameras, expandable memory and multimedia capability. Those devices were BlackBerry's attempt at getting into the consumer space by giving them features that all previous BlackBerry's lacked and a lot of smartphones included.
Posted via CB10LuvULongTime likes this.12-21-13 06:37 PMLike 1 - I'm going to be keeping my Z10 for quite a while as I'm on a three year term. So right now I only care about BlackBerry continuing to improve the platform OS. Let's hope that happens and I expect that it will. Remember, BlackBerry Balance is for work and play so I doubt they'd only focus on one part of the equation. That's unless they want out of the device field entirely and that is not what is happening.
Posted via CB1012-21-13 06:52 PMLike 0 -
- BB10 looks more consumer oriented than business oriented because I believe that Legacy BlackBerrys are more useful in a professional environment.
Posted via CB1012-21-13 07:07 PMLike 0 - Ok, so lets review. Some U.S. carriers didn't do the Z and Q. We didn't see the 10.1.4xxx mr. One U.S. carrier has the Z30. None of us have OS 10.2.xxxx. Aren't we already there via the carriers?
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BBRYed likes this.12-21-13 07:56 PMLike 1 - BlackBerry is not abandoning good quality phones. The Z30 just came out. It is a good quality high end phone by my standards, and in my opinion. I have it, and I love it! So they are going to concentrate their next phone to the lower end bracket of phones, cause they need the money and they believe they stand a very chance of succeeding in the Indonesian/Malaysian markets, and other similar ones with these phones. North America can wait a little while for the next quality BlackBerry phone. There is no harm in that and it makes good business sense as North Americans have been given first chance, and we all know what happened there. Change can be good, John Chen has set out to save BlackBerry and that is exactly what he is going to do. Some may cry a little, but that will not change anything. He is here for the many, not for the few. Not saying he does not care for every BlackBerry loyal. We just have to learn to trust him. In time we may all be applauding his gift for making things happen (in a constructive, and positive way for BlackBerry). He is a man of action with a vision. Part of this plan has already begun. I don't think we will be hearing BlackBerry is dead, if at all for quite some time now. A friend was just telling me a recent pole in some business journal (or whatever some of you can look it up and find out what it is) was just taken. The result were interesting, 50% believed BlackBerry sucks, while the other 50% believed that John Chen was going to save BlackBerry. I'd say it bodes well considering John Chen has been BlackBerry's boss just over a month. Take it for what you will. I believe BlackBerry with Chen is on the right path. In a very short period of time I have come to trust Mr Chen more than I do anyone else when it comes to BlackBerry. What John Chen says and does matters most.12-21-13 08:24 PMLike 2
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Posted via the BlackBerry Q5 using CB10.12-21-13 08:44 PMLike 2 - Once again, listen to the earnings call. Do your research. You will see that by outsourcing to Foxconn, BlackBerry is now free to focus on monetizing its software offerings and expanding solutions for the enterprise sector (government and corporate). At least Indonesia and about 7 other emerging markets, consumers will be able to purchase a BlackBerry.
Poetry in Motion
Posted via the BlackBerry Q5 using CB10.12-21-13 08:46 PMLike 0 - I don't think they'd be dumb enough to release another OS7 device unless it's for enterprise, no one is developing applications for that thing anymore.
If BB10 devices are a success in emerging markets then you just get a better ecosystem, because developers will be able to reach a wider audience.
Posted via CB1012-21-13 10:11 PMLike 0 - This move is simply to minimize their losses without giving up entirely on handsets.
BB knows they're done in North America. And you can say the same thing about Europe too, they're just not saying anything.
They're basically testing the handset market in emerging markets where they will try to produce a low cost phone (because they're minimizing expenses) to a market they can try to undercut the competitors on price - or at least be competitive with them.
This is essentially a last-ditch effort in trying to find a niche in the handset market without risking too much.
They've learned/admitted that they cannot compete anywhere else... they don't have the skill or the financial resources to keep trying.
The odds are pretty good that they will fail on their last ditch effort.
So basically Blackbery has given up on handsets and will stop making them (regardless of their timid attempt in Indonesia) despite what BB10user07 wants everyone to think.
Blackberry handsets are DEAD!!12-21-13 11:04 PMLike 6 - I just want to ask about the difference between enterprise devices and consumer devices.
Chen, as you specifically quoted, specifically said designers.
Not "marketing team", not "inventory team", but "designers".
When was the last time you see "designers" taking over the entire supply chain?
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