1. bobshine's Avatar
    If true it would be great. If ever BlackBerry is able to get back with more significant market share, it would have an edge over android since it pushes it update out directly

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    01-23-14 05:24 PM
  2. joeldf's Avatar
    Can someone from Crackberry just answer this prolonged question?

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    Someone already did - back on the second page (at least on the CB10 app - I know the website paginates differently).

    Bla1ze commented. But he doesn't really know either.

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    01-23-14 05:30 PM
  3. Razor8Tie's Avatar
    I don't believe it either, but it's what I was told.

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    01-23-14 05:33 PM
  4. BBPandy's Avatar
    Lol usman bro u made a thread about the same thing as me and no one came to my thread even though it was before yours guess my title caused that.

    Lol guess u marketed better

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    Haha I hate when that happens lol

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    01-23-14 06:27 PM
  5. BBPandy's Avatar
    Normally I would eagerly agree about the absurdity of that, but it is my understanding that for all practical purposes, Europeans have no professional sport league that plays US baseball and never have. Please correct me if I am wrong about that.
    That was the purpose of the Joke. Ofcourse Europe never won the the "World Series" they have no MLB teams. They are all in the US (except for 2 that are in Canada)

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    01-23-14 06:30 PM
  6. SirJes's Avatar
    Haha I hate when that happens lol

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    Lol its all good tho, once the news/rumor got out.

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    01-23-14 06:30 PM
  7. BBPandy's Avatar
    According to most CSR/Carrier isn't BlackBerry dead anyways? If BlackBerry can pull this off why not. Go for it, release whatever can pushed without the need of approval from Carriers. Aren't most users in the US still on 10.1 or something?! its a joke.
    Not only are they still on 10.1
    They don't even have the 10.1 Maintenance Release !

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    Last edited by BBPandy; 01-23-14 at 06:46 PM.
    01-23-14 06:34 PM
  8. playbookster's Avatar
    Its probably going to happen
    01-23-14 07:00 PM
  9. Uzi's Avatar
    Just received bbm from the author of bbugmy,he confirmed all will received same os and push by BlackBerry

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    01-23-14 07:24 PM
  10. cartoon2007's Avatar
    Not only are they still on 10.1
    They don't even have the 10.1 Maintenance Release !

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    01-23-14 07:26 PM
  11. ray689's Avatar
    Just received bbm from the author of bbugmy,he confirmed all will received same os and push by BlackBerry

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    What's bbugmy and how would the developer know? I hope it's true but just wondering.

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    01-23-14 07:42 PM
  12. Uzi's Avatar
    What's bbugmy and how would the developer know? I hope it's true but just wondering.

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    Www.bbugmy.com he one of the attendance to media preview os 10.2.1 yesterday

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    01-23-14 07:47 PM
  13. Omnitech's Avatar
    Not only are they still on 10.1
    They don't even have the 10.1 Maintenance Release !

    Perhaps you are not aware of the debacle that was 10.1 MR, for many customers.

    Skipping that update may have been a wise move, actually.
    01-23-14 07:52 PM
  14. ray689's Avatar
    Www.bbugmy.com he one of the attendance to media preview os 10.2.1 yesterday

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    Well I see him say that it'll be available for all BB10 devices. That part I know but it could still be carrier dependent. Lets hope we are in for a surprise though.

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    01-23-14 07:54 PM
  15. Omnitech's Avatar
    BS mate. in such case noone could use roaming, lol

    I have no idea what you are trying to assert there.

    My point was that your device reports its identity and quite likely OS revision every time it connects to a network.

    Why that would have anything to do with roaming - which only works via agreement by all the carriers involved - is a mystery to me.
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    01-23-14 07:54 PM
  16. Omnitech's Avatar
    Is it possible that the "Wi-Fi update" that is now in 10.2.1.1925 (a subset page of the software update page in Settings) may be a way around that?

    Turning off the carrier link or removing the SIM card has never magically allowed a device to natively get any software it wants OTA, it needs a SIM card to link to a carrier, and then to check the carrier's approved OS for that device in order to download an updated OS, whether that download occurs via carrier network or WiFi.

    Many carriers (ie AT&T) prohibit software updates over a certain size unless done over WiFi, to reduce the load on their network and/or reduce the large amount of data usage that would cut into a customer's monthly data transfer allowance.


    Now, I'm really just asking the question, but is it possible that BlackBerry always had control, but just allowed the carriers to have a say in who got what based on the fact that that's just how they always did it - and perhaps because of manufacturer/carrier agreements?

    Whether or not Blackberry has the "technical" capability to push OS updates to devices without carrier approval is immaterial. If their contract with carriers stipulates that the carrier must approve OS updates, attempting to ignore such contracts and push unapproved updates anyway puts their entire business in jeopardy. IE "very dumb move".
    01-23-14 08:02 PM
  17. prithvi64's Avatar
    Excellent move by BB to release OS update globally. Carriers in India were never care for users for releasing of OS updates and because of it, I didn't use official OS in past 7-8 years of using BB devices. It has almost been rule either to use leaked or hybrid.
    01-23-14 08:24 PM
  18. ray689's Avatar
    And still subject to carrier approval. Damn

    http://n4bb.com/blackberry-confirms-...-january-28th/

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    01-23-14 08:57 PM
  19. Uzi's Avatar
    And still subject to carrier approval. Damn

    http://n4bb.com/blackberry-confirms-...-january-28th/

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    Damn..
    Well let see in few days

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    01-23-14 09:02 PM
  20. ray689's Avatar
    Damn..
    Well let see in few days

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    Ya I guess we'll know then.

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    01-23-14 09:07 PM
  21. yelmonster's Avatar
    Global update 10.2.1 (not carrier push)-img_20140124_110656.png

    Answer's still vague though


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    01-23-14 09:07 PM
  22. ray689's Avatar
    Doesn't seem vague. Says it's rumors and hasn't heard that. Alec who by the way? Saunders?

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    01-23-14 09:10 PM
  23. yelmonster's Avatar
    Doesn't seem vague. Says it's rumors and hasn't heard that. Alec who by the way? Saunders?

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    Alec Saunders. It's vague for me because it's not a definitive yes or no. Perhaps he hasn't heard of it because he isn't part of software dev. But I understand your point, his answer is kinda verging on "no".

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    01-23-14 09:22 PM
  24. ray689's Avatar
    Alec Saunders. It's vague for me because it's not a definitive yes or no. Perhaps he hasn't heard of it because he isn't part of software dev. But I understand your point, his answer is kinda verging on "no".

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    Yes seems that way but not a definitive no for sure.

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    01-23-14 09:24 PM
  25. BigAl_BB9900's Avatar
    Normally I would eagerly agree about the absurdity of that, but it is my understanding that for all practical purposes, Europeans have no professional sport league that plays US baseball and never have. Please correct me if I am wrong about that.
    Not sure if there are any professional baseball leagues in Europe (haven't heard of any)

    But I always wondered why the North American competition (I think there are Canadian teams as well as US ones) is called 'World Series' as none of the other baseball playing countries seem to be involved (baseball is very big in Japan and quite a few Latin American countries)
    01-23-14 09:26 PM
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