1. flipper11's Avatar
    I have been reading this forum site with great interest for a while now. Reason being,of course ,is because I will soon be due for an upgrade, and had my heart set on a Pearl 8230 flip (Bell,Canada). However,as each day goes by,and I read the threads here,I am starting to wonder if I should just stick with a "dumb" phone. I see things like "re-boots"..."battery Pulls", and a menagerie of other concerns and problems with ALL models of BB's. Now I am not too saavy when it comes to hi-tech devices.....so the question is....are my concerns valid?? and ,if so...should I just stay away from Blackberrys??.........HELP...!
    11-12-09 06:56 PM
  2. Denise in Los Angeles's Avatar
    I have been reading this forum site with great interest for a while now. Reason being,of course ,is because I will soon be due for an upgrade, and had my heart set on a Pearl 8230 flip (Bell,Canada). However,as each day goes by,and I read the threads here,I am starting to wonder if I should just stick with a "dumb" phone. I see things like "re-boots"..."battery Pulls", and a menagerie of other concerns and problems with ALL models of BB's. Now I am not too saavy when it comes to hi-tech devices.....so the question is....are my concerns valid?? and ,if so...should I just stay away from Blackberrys??.........HELP...!
    It all depends if you think you will use a Blackberry enough to buy one. If you like to have your email and internet with you on the go, then its probably a good idea. If you only use a phone that is for talk and text only, there are phones that can handle that.

    Keep in mind, if you buy a Pearl, you'll become a Crack head like the rest of us.
    11-12-09 07:06 PM
  3. david9962000's Avatar
    BB's in general don't have problems, they usually do if they're low in memory, have a custom OS or a bad 3rd party apps. I have my 8900 with a stock OS and it's very stable, no problems whatsoever.
    11-12-09 07:20 PM
  4. BlackBerryr's Avatar
    Yup I totally agree with david. BlackBerrys are very stable devices. Just think... Could you do all the sweet things you have read about on here with a "dumb" phone? NO!
    (get the Pearl! You will fall in love)
    11-12-09 07:23 PM
  5. uvaj06's Avatar
    I have been reading this forum site with great interest for a while now. Reason being,of course ,is because I will soon be due for an upgrade, and had my heart set on a Pearl 8230 flip (Bell,Canada). However,as each day goes by,and I read the threads here,I am starting to wonder if I should just stick with a "dumb" phone. I see things like "re-boots"..."battery Pulls", and a menagerie of other concerns and problems with ALL models of BB's. Now I am not too saavy when it comes to hi-tech devices.....so the question is....are my concerns valid?? and ,if so...should I just stay away from Blackberrys??.........HELP...!
    Perhaps it should be explained that a "reboot" on a BB is just the same as hitting the power button on your current dumb phone, which you might even do every night before bed, idk... A batt pull is the process for initiating a "reboot" or "reset" of your device, simply hitting the power button doesn't quite do it on a BB, because if the device were totally powered off and you have a reminder for a calendar event or an alarm set and the device is totally off, you won't get it. My last dumb phone was an LG 8600 and if I had my phone turned completely off, alarms etc didn't seem to want to work for me. So on a BB, your device goes to "sleep" when you tell it to power off and wakes quickly and easily in the event of an event or alarm, but just like every phone or computer out there, your BB will need to be shut down and reset occasionally, so it shouldn't be a scary concept at all... Not to mention the fact that you can get a free app that will perform resets for you, without physically pulling your battery and you can even schedule resets for a regular time when you know you won't be using your phone, like at night or first thing in the morning. Plus, you can always ask questions here, there are always tons of people who will help or offer advice and there are even people who've compiled easy to follow step by step instructions here to fix major problems with your device, should the operator make an error. Hope this helps sway you in favor of the Pearl... Cheers!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-12-09 11:11 PM
  6. exelant's Avatar
    Most people who run into problems and need a lot of help here are the tinkerers. People who upgrade OS's a lot or install more applications than their device can handle, etc. I know people who buy their BlackBerrys and just use them with the original OS and have a little memory card for pictures and never need to reboot or do anything to their devices except use them. They are very stable and you shouldn't have any problems at all.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-12-09 11:21 PM
  7. zhelf's Avatar
    Yea it can be a bit concerning sometimes panning through these threads for someone who doesn't know.

    But let me assure you BB's are great devices they are just like computers though, and need to be rest from time to time and thats what a battery pull it is basically the CTRL+ALT+DELETE for BB's.

    But most of the negative posts as far as issues are rare and not common experience. Most people are either loading beta OS's or taking apart their devices, plus your not going to read a thread called "My Blackberry worked great again today" lol there would be no point. So you have to realize that most of the posts are people looking for help or people helping them. Blackberry's are great device there are a few issues here and there and sometimes things go wrong but that is just technology for you. but the smartest thing for an BB owner to do is join this forum. It is the single most useful resource for any BB owner.
    11-13-09 12:38 AM
  8. Barredbard's Avatar
    It sounds like you are just an average individual with average desires. If you use the phone just the way it was shipped to you, I'll eat my hat if you have any problems whatsoever. That's exactly what you do with a dumb phone; you load your contacts, pocket the phone, and the rest is history. A Blackberry is already a formidable device when you buy it. If you just load your contacts and set up your e-mail, life will be the epitome of normalcy.

    But unfortunately, this is rarely the end of the story for a Blackberry user. You will fall hopelessly in love with your Blackberry. You will learn about how you can add applications; everything from software capable of making you a one-man business entity, to software that can sing you to sleep at night and make pancakes when you wake in the morning. Your all-consuming thought will become; what can I do to make my unit better? Your Blackberry will utterly replace your computer or laptop which you will now only use for typing word documents or for watching porn. You will use your device to connect to the internet, or attempt to. You will retire your MP3 player and use your Blackberry to play music. You will chuck your GPS unit in favor of your Blackberry. You will throw away your maps in favor of the Blackbery maps. You will let your alarm clock collect dust, and use your Blackberry's powerful alarm, etc. You will also turn your attention to aesthetics. How can I make my Blackberry look better? you will ask yourself. You will download new themes, new wall papers, new ringtones, and even buy new casing for the device. Until you notice that the first thing you look at in the morning will be your phone, and then your wife, and then your kids, in that order.

    It is when you get to this stage that you become frenzied. You will subscribe to Crackberry or multiple Blackberry websites. You will have a joygarsm when you hear a new Operating System is in the works for your device, and an epilepsy when you hear that a new device better than yours is being released. And by jove, you'll experiment. You will load application after application onto your device, some with compatibility issues. You might even attempt to load an unofficial OS on your device. It is around this time that the romance might become a little more one-sided. Your device might wobble and fumble in an attempt to juggle all these applications by different developers effectively. A Blackberry is like a computer, but unlike a computer, it runs 24-7 for most people. It is little wonder that issues develop.

    In a nutshell, you shouldn't have any problems if you don't become addicted. It will be the best phone you've ever owned. Bon chance.
    11-13-09 03:32 AM
  9. Fuzzballz's Avatar
    In 10 years I've never had a cell phone that wasn't glitchy.
    11-13-09 03:49 AM
  10. sedalia066's Avatar
    Having had various mobile devices in the past more than ten years I can say BlackBerry is the best experience of all. Some minor glitches but noithing to compare to some other past devices.

    I am a normal user who happens to love ready access to e-mail and internet. Calendar and other functions are gravy. And QuickPull app does my battery pull simulation overnight.

    I have experienced not one real issue to date with my 9000. Who knows what is coming? Bit with CB I know help is on the way if trouble arises.

    Go for BB is my advice.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-13-09 07:04 AM
  11. Fuzzballz's Avatar
    And QuickPull app does my battery pull simulation overnight.
    Sort of but not really. Quickpull simulates a soft-reset that you can do by pressing alt-rshift-del.

    Nothing can simulate a hard battery pull.
    11-13-09 07:13 AM
  12. Ponderous's Avatar
    Once you get a BlackBerry you will never go back to a dumb phone.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-13-09 07:18 AM
  13. flipper11's Avatar
    Thank you , everyone for your responses thus far. Your comments have put my mind at ease regarding my future purchase of a BB. My requirements(phone,text,e-mail) should be served quite nicely,and as a couple of you have suggested,who knows, I may become a hopelessly addicted "crackberry head" as well.
    For now,I will continue to read this forum with great interest,and as soon as I do get my BB( which will probably be sooner than later) it is gratifying to know that there will be a place for me to turn for advice.

    Thanks all! !
    11-13-09 07:30 AM
  14. mciriello's Avatar
    It's been said above but I agree...the BB is very stable for general usage. I use my Tour for work email, personal email, texting, web, music, etc. I run the stock OS and a basic set of apps and I never have to reboot it. I had the same experience with my 8830 for 2 years as well.

    Certainly any device is going to run into issues when you run proprietary software, but lots of the folks on here enjoy the "experience" that comes with tinkering!
    11-13-09 07:56 AM
  15. elvin1983's Avatar
    It sounds like you are just an average individual with average desires. If you use the phone just the way it was shipped to you, I'll eat my hat if you have any problems whatsoever. That's exactly what you do with a dumb phone; you load your contacts, pocket the phone, and the rest is history. A Blackberry is already a formidable device when you buy it. If you just load your contacts and set up your e-mail, life will be the epitome of normalcy.

    But unfortunately, this is rarely the end of the story for a Blackberry user. You will fall hopelessly in love with your Blackberry. You will learn about how you can add applications; everything from software capable of making you a one-man business entity, to software that can sing you to sleep at night and make pancakes when you wake in the morning. Your all-consuming thought will become; what can I do to make my unit better? Your Blackberry will utterly replace your computer or laptop which you will now only use for typing word documents or for watching porn. You will use your device to connect to the internet, or attempt to. You will retire your MP3 player and use your Blackberry to play music. You will chuck your GPS unit in favor of your Blackberry. You will throw away your maps in favor of the Blackbery maps. You will let your alarm clock collect dust, and use your Blackberry's powerful alarm, etc. You will also turn your attention to aesthetics. How can I make my Blackberry look better? you will ask yourself. You will download new themes, new wall papers, new ringtones, and even buy new casing for the device. Until you notice that the first thing you look at in the morning will be your phone, and then your wife, and then your kids, in that order.

    It is when you get to this stage that you become frenzied. You will subscribe to Crackberry or multiple Blackberry websites. You will have a joygarsm when you hear a new Operating System is in the works for your device, and an epilepsy when you hear that a new device better than yours is being released. And by jove, you'll experiment. You will load application after application onto your device, some with compatibility issues. You might even attempt to load an unofficial OS on your device. It is around this time that the romance might become a little more one-sided. Your device might wobble and fumble in an attempt to juggle all these applications by different developers effectively. A Blackberry is like a computer, but unlike a computer, it runs 24-7 for most people. It is little wonder that issues develop.

    In a nutshell, you shouldn't have any problems if you don't become addicted. It will be the best phone you've ever owned. Bon chance.
    Hmm, sounds just like what happened to me, minus the GPS comment .
    My Girlfriend was skeptical at first, then once she got her 8130 she really enjoys it. Pull the trigger on the Pearl, you'll love it!

    We're here for you if you run into any issues!
    11-13-09 08:43 AM
  16. sedalia066's Avatar
    Sort of but not really. Quickpull simulates a soft-reset that you can do by pressing alt-rshift-del.

    Nothing can simulate a hard battery pull.
    Right you are. I stand corrected.

    I do a hard battery pull about one time a month so long as nothing is wrong.

    Thanks.
    11-13-09 08:51 AM
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