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  1. Declan Walsh's Avatar
    Thoughts...?

    Posted via CB10
    02-19-14 04:29 PM
  2. crackbrry fan's Avatar
    With BBM channels and the potential for conducting transactions over it, my guesstimate would be three times this as BBM is going to be more than just a messaging application.

    Posted via CB10
    02-19-14 04:33 PM
  3. anon(5818411)'s Avatar
    Wasn't all of blackberry worth like 5bil?

    Posted via CB10
    02-19-14 04:34 PM
  4. MartyMcfly's Avatar
    I have the slightest clue. *starts developing an instant messaging application*


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    02-19-14 04:36 PM
  5. ccbs's Avatar
    Lol, the channel part is only valued high among fanboys here. It has less than a few millions user and are not growing much at all.
    In reality, it is the real time communication as a SMS/voice replacement and information exchange platform that companies like FB highly valued and are willing to pay for.
    02-19-14 04:37 PM
  6. cgk's Avatar
    With BBM channels and the potential for conducting transactions over it, my guesstimate would be three times this as BBM is going to be more than just a messaging application.

    Posted via CB10
    I *think* that $57 billion might be a little on the high side... Didn't we know that Facebook kicked the tyres when BBRY was hawking itself around - so what didn't they like ?
    02-19-14 04:40 PM
  7. chrisro's Avatar
    No phone numbers on BBM, that's what they didn't like

    Posted via CB10 from my exquisite Z10 on Cosmote Romania
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    02-19-14 04:42 PM
  8. crackbrry fan's Avatar
    I *think* that $57 billion might be a little on the high side... Didn't we know that Facebook kicked the tyres when BBRY was hawking itself around - so what didn't they like ?
    Perhaps but the monetization of Channels could take the value upwards of whats app as that is an unsecured messenger platform that's just that. A messenger service.

    Posted via CB10
    02-19-14 04:45 PM
  9. g33kphr33k's Avatar
    This is all for the data harvesting. Mapping numbers to names and conversations. FB is totally in bed with the NSA.





    Z10 until Z30
    02-19-14 04:48 PM
  10. MrGlenn's Avatar
    Hope this will get some of my friends to switch to BBM again.

    BlackBerry 10 signed.
    02-19-14 04:52 PM
  11. crackbrry fan's Avatar
    This is all for the data harvesting. Mapping numbers to names and conversations. FB is totally in bed with the NSA.





    Z10 until Z30
    The naysayers will say they have nothing to hide, not knowing the real ramifications of this.

    Posted via CB10
    02-19-14 04:55 PM
  12. nabil114's Avatar
    Viber was sold for 900 million. I think Facebook overpaid. They might start using Whatsapp for world domination. (Very typical of them)
    02-19-14 05:28 PM
  13. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    No phone numbers on BBM, that's what they didn't like

    Posted via CB10 from my exquisite Z10 on Cosmote Romania
    TBH, I think it has more to do with the userbases than the features. More developed country users use Whatsapp. Who uses BBM? Indonesians.

    Aside from the fact that developed world users are more valuable for advertising and dating mining, the Whatsapp userbase has greater synergies with Facebook's current portfolio of Facebook and Instagram since the users overlap/cross over. The same is less true for BBM, esp. considering that there isn't an Instagram app available for BB10.

    Simply using raw usage numbers to valuate BBM is a faulty methodology. The value of the userbase is clearly more important. Consider iOS app development vs. Android.
    Last edited by sentimentGX4; 02-19-14 at 05:43 PM.
    Drew808 likes this.
    02-19-14 05:30 PM
  14. tufcustomer's Avatar
    I have numerous friends and family who don't care much for social networking. Took advantage and got some of them to switch over to BBM today
    02-19-14 05:34 PM
  15. Mr.mister's Avatar
    So I guess Facebook have 450 million more phone numbers.

    Better android than android. The future is black....
    02-19-14 05:52 PM
  16. chrisro's Avatar
    TBH, I think it has more to do with the userbases than the features. More developed country users use Whatsapp. Who uses BBM? Indonesians.

    Aside from the fact that developed world users are more valuable for advertising and dating mining, the Whatsapp userbase has greater synergies with Facebook's current portfolio of Facebook and Instagram since the users overlap/cross over. The same is less true for BBM, esp. considering that there isn't an Instagram app available for BB10.

    Simply using raw usage numbers to valuate BBM is a faulty methodology. The value of the userbase is clearly more important. Consider iOS app development vs. Android.
    Nice editing

    Posted via CB10 from my exquisite Z10 on Cosmote Romania
    02-19-14 05:54 PM
  17. cbvinh's Avatar
    It's not the value of an instant messaging system. It's about buying users. $19 billion (reported elsewhere) / 450 million users = ~$42/user. Pricey, but maybe it's cheaper than what it currently costs FB to acquire users...

    Viber would net... 105 million * $42 = $4.41 billion

    BBM would net... 80 million users (reportedly) * $42 = $3.36 billion.
    anon(8181885) likes this.
    02-19-14 08:25 PM
  18. sleepngbear's Avatar
    I installed whatsapp for all if about 5 minutes. This news is all the reason I need to not try it again. Ever.
    02-19-14 08:31 PM
  19. yvpan1's Avatar
    there goes our privacy, our phone numbers and our data.

    it's #BBMme time everyone!!!
    02-19-14 09:02 PM
  20. godsfantasy's Avatar
    If BBM starts to be a payment platform as well, a lot more than now

    Posted via CB10
    02-19-14 10:51 PM
  21. black.rhino's Avatar
    I think this is going to have a positive effect on the amount of people I have on BBM.

    Posted via CB10
    02-19-14 11:37 PM
  22. CrackberryQ's Avatar
    Well I believe this will ultimately hurt whatsapp, and benefit bbm!

    In the short run, facebook chat and whatsapp will run as stand alone apps, but shortly after facebook, will incorporate whatsapp into it, this will NOT be welcome by a lot of facebook users, who will ultimately stop using whatsapp.

    Many have facebook friends that they do not wish to communicate with ALL the time, many don't even have facebook, and many simply hate it.

    But all in all a great deal pulled of by whatsapp, 16 billion is simply brilliant!

    Q10 Powered by 10.2.1.1925
    02-19-14 11:42 PM
  23. birdman_38's Avatar
    Well I believe this will ultimately hurt whatsapp, and benefit bbm!

    In the short run, facebook chat and whatsapp will run as stand alone apps, but shortly after facebook, will incorporate whatsapp into it, this will NOT be welcome by a lot of facebook users, who will ultimately stop using whatsapp.
    Your prediction is based on emotion. Facebook wouldn't have made this acquisition if they believe it will affect either user base in a negative way.
    Drew808 and JeepBB like this.
    02-19-14 11:52 PM
  24. glamrlama's Avatar
    The deal is only $4 Billion in cash. The remaining $15 Billion is FB stock which has imaginary value and could change at any moment.
    02-20-14 09:45 AM
  25. glamrlama's Avatar
    Even $4 Billion is waaaaaaaay over price!
    02-20-14 09:46 AM
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