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  1. FCSC's Avatar
    Honestly I don't get the obsession with File Managers from the blackberry folks.
    Think about the uproar if the next windows came without a file manager...



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    01-05-16 09:54 AM
  2. tangozulu's Avatar
    They don't. If 30% of smartphone sales were BB10 instead of 0.3% developers would write apps for BB10.

    Posted via CB10
    Many big apps chose not to support either BBOS or BB10. Netflix and Skype to name a few back when BBOS had tens of millions of users. They were instrumental in my choosing to to continue with BlackBerry when upgrading.

    Posted via CB10
    01-05-16 11:06 AM
  3. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Why look for an app when the function is built into the OS.
    Great points, but one major reason is that a lot of times, third party developers -- specialists, if you will -- well either make something better or force the OS maker to continue to improve.
    TgeekB likes this.
    01-05-16 11:16 AM
  4. brookie229's Avatar
    Great points, but one major reason is that a lot of times, third party developers -- specialists, if you will -- well either make something better or force the OS maker to continue to improve.
    No argument from me on that point either.
    01-05-16 11:22 AM
  5. Litigator08's Avatar
    Think about the uproar if the next windows came without a file manager...



    Posted via CB10
    Are we talking Windows Phone or desktop/laptop computers?
    01-05-16 12:40 PM
  6. BB_PP's Avatar
    Honestly I don't get the obsession with File Managers from the blackberry folks. I've bought Astro on Android back when it was 2.1, and I've hardly used it. I've use ES File Manager with no problems on multiple android phones. And Asus one seems to be available for all phones, and I've heard good things about that.

    Neither Astro or ES has crashed on me.

    Video and Gallery is already under photos in the folder with all the google apps.

    It's great that BB10 is perfect for your needs, but you're not even 1% of the smartphone population.
    You are too common with 99%!!

    Posted via Priv...
    01-05-16 12:43 PM
  7. ssbtech's Avatar
    Google Play says between 100,000,000 - 500,000,000 installs just for ES File Explorer.

    Plenty of people want a file manager.
    01-05-16 12:46 PM
  8. TheAuthority's Avatar
    Here's an example of the glorious eco-system you get when you go android:

    Facebook accused of deliberately breaking some of its Android apps | Technology | The Guardian
    01-05-16 01:15 PM
  9. FCSC's Avatar
    Are we talking Windows Phone or desktop/laptop computers?

    Haha good catch, I intended desktop/laptop computer... (in which case I think it's called file explorer and not manager)




    Posted via CB10
    01-05-16 01:19 PM
  10. hjc73734's Avatar
    That is simply because you probably don't use a file manager all that much. I would venture to say that the average user has no GREAT need for a good file manager. For me, I can honestly say that there is not one day goes by without me using the BB10 File Manager. I use it constantly to move files (some large, some small) from my device to my personal cloud (WD Mycloud), Onedrive, or Box. Having said that, I am not so naive to say that android does not have great file managers as well. BB10 users have a really good built-in File Manager that they don't want to give up. Why look for an app when the function is built into the OS.
    Maybe that's why this one feature touted so highly around here just really isn't that important to the 99.5% of the smart phone users.

    And it's more comical that users here still keep harping about it.

    I don't see how really great of a file manager it is. It does the job, but it's not exceptional in any way.

    As a matter of fact it sometimes is a bit cumbersome.

    For example.... (see I give examples): copying multiple files from one folder to another on stock BB10 file manager

    -select first file with long press
    -select "select more" from side menu
    -click on other files
    -open side menu
    -press "copy to"
    -acknowledge the instructions to navigate to target folder
    -navigate and press paste.

    Seven total steps.

    ES file explorer on Android
    -select first file with long press
    -continue to select additional as the program recognizes this as a select more move.
    -press copy button on options menu that is already visible.
    -navigate and paste.

    FOUR steps.
    Faster, easier, more productive on Android.

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    Last edited by hjc73734; 01-05-16 at 01:47 PM.
    01-05-16 01:30 PM
  11. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Here's an example of the glorious eco-system you get when you go android:

    Facebook accused of deliberately breaking some of its Android apps | Technology | The Guardian
    How's that Facebook app on BB10 working?
    01-05-16 01:35 PM
  12. FCSC's Avatar
    Maybe that's why this one feature touted so highly around here just really isn't that important to the 99.5% of the smart phone users.

    And it's more comical that users here still keep harping about it.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Didn't realize there had been a poll about file managers, care to link to it?

    Posted via CB10
    01-05-16 01:36 PM
  13. hjc73734's Avatar
    Didn't realize there had been a poll about file managers, care to link to it?

    Posted via CB10
    Didn't mention a poll but the person I quoted claims the file manager on bb10 is so superior. And then mentions it's not important to average users.

    And since BlackBerry had less than .5% of the market, I'd say that 99.5% of the market don't find this feature important enough to move to bb10 os.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    01-05-16 01:45 PM
  14. tufcustomer's Avatar
    How's that Facebook app on BB10 working?
    Beat me to it lol.

    Posted via CB10
    01-05-16 01:49 PM
  15. brookie229's Avatar
    Didn't mention a poll but the person I quoted claims the file manager on bb10 is so superior. And then mentions it's not important to average users.
    Man you really have it in for me don't you. Can you show me in any of my posts where I stated or claimed "the file manager on BB10 is superior". I explicitly stated that android has perfectly fine file managers, some of which I have used including Astro and ES File Explorer. I have the latter on my old Playbook and it works great (for Playbook standards!). I stated above that I use a file manager probably much more than the average user. What the h$^l is wrong with that? If I have a Passport why would I download and use an android file manager of any kind when the device has a great file manager already built in. Some people just bi@&h for the sake of it. I think I have attracted one.
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    01-05-16 02:00 PM
  16. hjc73734's Avatar
    Man you really have it in for me don't you. Can you show me in any of my posts where I stated or claimed "the file manager on BB10 is superior". I explicitly stated that android has perfectly fine file managers, some of which I have used including Astro and ES File Explorer. I have the latter on my old Playbook and it works great (for Playbook standards!). I stated above that I use a file manager probably much more than the average user. What the h$^l is wrong with that? If I have a Passport why would I download and use an android file manager of any kind when the device has a great file manager already built in. Some people just bi@&h for the sake of it. I think I have attracted one.
    Probably because the file manager is not really exceptional or even really good. Just functional as I demonstrated with a step by step comparison.

    And probably because you would question the need for another file manager.

    Also you claimed Kalemsoft was great and has never failed you then you go on to say you rarely watch videos on your mobile devices. LOL. So you come across as a bit of a fanboy.

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    01-05-16 02:11 PM
  17. FCSC's Avatar
    Didn't mention a poll but the person I quoted claims the file manager on bb10 is so superior. And then mentions it's not important to average users.

    And since BlackBerry had less than .5% of the market, I'd say that 99.5% of the market don't find this feature important enough to move to bb10 os.

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    Ok so for starters he didn't say that the file manager on bb10 is better.

    The marketshare percentage is only useful if file managers didn't exist on other OS's.... but they do.

    People use file managers.

    Again, if you don't think a file managers are used,try to imagine what the reaction would be if windows took out file explorer overnight from desktop windows.

    It's not a sexy feature, but it's a useful one.

    Posted via CB10
    01-05-16 02:36 PM
  18. hjc73734's Avatar
    Ok so for starters he didn't say that the file manager on bb10 is better.

    The marketshare percentage is only useful if file managers didn't exist on other OS's.... but they do.

    People use file managers.

    Again, if you don't think a file managers are used,try to imagine what the reaction would be if windows took out file explorer overnight from desktop windows.

    It's not a sexy feature, but it's a useful one.

    Posted via CB10
    Oh they're useful. I never said that they weren't

    But this thread is about ecosystem hype. About BlackBerry coming with what you need that the ecosystem is not all it's hyped up to be. And the file manager being used by him and others to justify that claim.

    Obviously the stock file manager is functional, but there's plenty of room for improvement as I pointed out using a popular Android file manager. There IS a need for a good ecosystem because options are good and creates competition.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    01-05-16 02:42 PM
  19. brookie229's Avatar
    Probably because the file manager is not really exceptional or even really good. Just functional as I demonstrated with a step by step comparison.

    And probably because you would question the need for another file manager.

    Also you claimed Kalemsoft was great and has never failed you then you go on to say you rarely watch videos on your mobile devices. LOL. So you come across as a bit of a fanboy.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Fact is, because I have a Passport with a good built-in file manager (and I have very few android apps) I don't need another app for that purpose. I use Kalemsoft Media Player mostly hooked up to my 60" Sharp HDMI. The only mobile device that I watch video on is my old Playbook and yes, it too, has Kalemsoft which by the way (have I mentioned ) is a great app. I also beam video and music from my Passport to my TV and stereo (DLNA). As far as your fanboy comment, I do like BB10, but as I have stated on these forums before, my life is not going to end when BB10 ends. I have used Palm, HTC,and now BB. When it is time for me to move on then so be it. I will probably pick up an android device but I am open to all. I am definitely not looking for a slider so the Priv is out. Still waiting for you to point out where I said the File Manager was superior. Have a nice day
    01-05-16 02:53 PM
  20. brookie229's Avatar
    Ok so for starters he didn't say that the file manager on bb10 is better.
    Well, he likes to make crap up so..........
    01-05-16 02:56 PM
  21. Bbnivende's Avatar
    What apps to you use to beam your music? What "box" do you use at the other end? Do you use a free streaming app like Google Play Music ? Did you have to sideload these apps to make them work? Do they work well?
    01-05-16 02:59 PM
  22. dmlis's Avatar
    Maybe that's why this one feature touted so highly around here just really isn't that important to the 99.5% of the smart phone users.

    And it's more comical that users here still keep harping about it.

    I don't see how really great of a file manager it is. It does the job, but it's not exceptional in any way.

    As a matter of fact it sometimes is a bit cumbersome.

    For example.... (see I give examples): copying multiple files from one folder to another on stock BB10 file manager

    -select first file with long press
    -select "select more" from side menu
    -click on other files
    -open side menu
    -press "copy to"
    -acknowledge the instructions to navigate to target folder
    -navigate and press paste.

    Seven total steps.

    ES file explorer on Android
    -select first file with long press
    -continue to select additional as the program recognizes this as a select more move.
    -press copy button on options menu that is already visible.
    -navigate and paste.

    FOUR steps.
    Faster, easier, more productive on Android.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    BB10. File Manager. Q10:
    -select first file with long press
    -select "select more" from side menu
    -click on other files
    -press "copy"
    -navigate and paste.
    Five steps, not seven.
    01-05-16 03:05 PM
  23. brookie229's Avatar
    What apps to you use to beam your music? What "box" do you use at the other end? Do you use a free streaming app like Google Play Music ? Did you have to sideload these apps to make them work? Do they work well?
    No app needed for that, just need a DLNA compliant TV/Stereo.
    01-05-16 03:10 PM
  24. hjc73734's Avatar
    BB10. File Manager. Q10:
    -select first file with long press
    -select "select more" from side menu
    -click on other files
    -press "copy"
    -navigate and paste.
    Five steps, not seven.
    You forgot the step to acknowledge navigating to the target folder. It says that on my z30. On latest official update.

    Also you need to pull up the menu again after finished selecting multiples.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    01-05-16 03:17 PM
  25. GadgetTravel's Avatar
    Many big apps chose not to support either BBOS or BB10. Netflix and Skype to name a few back when BBOS had tens of millions of users. They were instrumental in my choosing to to continue with BlackBerry when upgrading.

    Posted via CB10
    They did. Blackberry lost about 99% of BB customers from the time of iOS until now. It was clear that something like BB10 was coming but it didn't for years. By the time it was available there was no need for it in the market.
    01-05-16 03:30 PM
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