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If you can, explain to me the logic behind many decisions BlackBerry has made in the last 4-5 years. If you can identify an integrated logic, then enlighten me.
In following all the discussions suggesting BlackBerry lacks the resources to do this or do that, I conclude that BlackBerry lacks the resources to explore HTML5. BlackBerry does not consult me or seem to respond to various requests made throughout CB.
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We offer our customers both where I work. Most have access to apps. All have access to our HTML5 site. The apps are faster, better received, result in fewer calls to customer service, result in more transactions, support more sophisticated auth and encryption schemes, and have fewer cases of fraud. That's why we continue to invest in them. HTML5 isn't our future, it's just what we do as a backup for those few users who can't or won't install apps.TgeekB and Blacklatino like this.01-01-16 08:46 PMLike 2 - Virtual ecosystem = over rated by techno geeks.
Natural ecosystem = under rated and under appreciated till gone.
Out of the box. Bb10 = The Best.
Posted via CB1001-01-16 08:55 PMLike 3 - They didn't make it HTML5 because it would have been incredibly clunky, presence status would have been unreliable, and the encryption would have been really slow. These are the kinds of issues where the HTML5 hype falls flat on its face. Notice how many other messaging apps are also native.
We offer our customers both where I work. Most have access to apps. All have access to our HTML5 site. The apps are faster, better received, result in fewer calls to customer service, result in more transactions, support more sophisticated auth and encryption schemes, and have fewer cases of fraud. That's why we continue to invest in them. HTML5 isn't our future, it's just what we do as a backup for those few users who can't or won't install apps.
BBM is a poor example of an app to port to HTML5 and you provided the reasons why.
It functions well in BlackBerry 10 as a BlackBerry 10 app because it natively takes advantage of the natures of both BlackBerry 10 and BlackBerry hardware.
BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition 10.3.2.2876 on T-Mobile01-01-16 09:00 PMLike 0 - You avoided my questions!
BBM is a poor example of an app to port to HTML5 and you provided the reasons why.
It functions well in BlackBerry 10 as a BlackBerry 10 app because it natively takes advantage of the natures of both BlackBerry 10 and BlackBerry hardware.
Or let's look at Uber. They have both HTML5 and native. Why aren't their apps just wrappers of the HTML5 site they already pay for? It's because they measure engagement just like the rest of us do.
And immersive games obviously work better as native.
So how is HTML5 the future again?Elephant_Canyon likes this.01-01-16 09:03 PMLike 1 - Sorry! But BBM on Android and iOS are INCOMPLETE and in no way nearly equivalent to BBM on BlackBerry 10.
Since BlackBerry could not replicate the BBM experience on Android or iOS this suggests to me that both have particular inherent weaknesses BlackBerry 10 has overcome.01-01-16 09:03 PMLike 0 - All that means is that BBM was developed as the primary messaging client for BB10 and with BlackBerry users like you in mind. Since BlackBerry controls the OS, the app can access everything. BBM for iOS and Android is specifically not developed with BB10 users in mind and can only access the OS functions that Google and Apple allow 3rd party developers. BBM directly competes with the primary messaging clients for those platforms so it obviously won't be as rich.
BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition 10.3.2.2876 on T-Mobile01-01-16 09:16 PMLike 0 -
You MUST use browsers (HTML) to access commercial accounts which are typically subject to even greater security.
I remain unconvinced by your debate points.
BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition 10.3.2.2876 on T-Mobile01-01-16 09:23 PMLike 0 - Or, perhaps they believe that mobile devices facilitate personal banking more than commercial banking, currently. Perhaps commercial accounts have more complex layers of access which are more difficult to implement on personal devices.01-01-16 09:42 PMLike 0
- Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesNo!!! One bank that doesn't make an app for commercial customers CLEARLY shows apps are overrated.01-01-16 09:51 PMLike 3
- Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesAll that means is that BBM was developed as the primary messaging client for BB10 and with BlackBerry users like you in mind. Since BlackBerry controls the OS, the app can access everything. BBM for iOS and Android is specifically not developed with BB10 users in mind and can only access the OS functions that Google and Apple allow 3rd party developers. BBM directly competes with the primary messaging clients for those platforms so it obviously won't be as rich.Elephant_Canyon and Blacklatino like this.01-01-16 09:53 PMLike 2
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We also bear more of the cost of fraud with consumers because of regulatory and retention concerns. So we had our real apps for consumers first also. That's pretty common.
How many times do businesses get the "future" tech versus consumers? Look at commercial software in general.Elephant_Canyon likes this.01-01-16 09:53 PMLike 1 - I'll give you one example. Teladoc now has an app. You can communicate with their doctors if you have a medical issue. No app for BB10.
I just got a yuneec typhoon 500 drone . No app on BB10 unless I use Android. Same for Phantom.
Competitors are using periscope to stream. Can't use a native app for it.
Now I can use cobalt of snap as workarounds for some of these apps but if I didn't, I'd be screwed and I love my passport.
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Posted via CB1001-01-16 10:38 PMLike 5 - Prem WatsAppCrackBerry Jester of JestersYeah but the problem with your statement is that you can get all of those things with other platforms. File sharing, great battery life, etc. can all be done on others.
Multitasking on a call? Now its being claimed that only BB10 users can do this? Where on earth did someone come up with this? I can multitask on any phone I want while on a call.
Keyboard I'll give you, if you want a physical one.
Sure you can.
Joe Doe, I saw him struggle. Or Jane for that matter. "I didn't know you could do that.."
Let's leave it at that. Cheers, Happy New Year!
� There's a Crack in the Berry right now... �IndianTiwari likes this.01-02-16 12:13 AMLike 1 - Your problem is you want Android to be BB10
Yeah you wont find exact replicas of the BB10 File explorer on Android.
You can find some that are equal to what it did and some that surpass it as well as others that are not as good.
No hunting is needed at all
Too much unreasonable hysteria here
Posted via Priv...01-02-16 12:47 AMLike 0 - I was BB10 user(Passport) and what I was reading whole last year on CB that BB10 lacking apps and eco system.
Now I have switched to Priv(Android) and I am on hunt to find basic apps like Explorer, Video, Gallery etc..
I think hundreds of apps were installed and removed. Almost all apps having different issues, I installed many Explorers and some need seconds to index files and some crashes most of the times. I am even ready to buy apps to get rid of stupid and annoying ads but didn't find reliable apps to spend my money. BB10 is way perfect for normal needs and efficiency. For me apps issue is just a hype excluding professional apps banking etc.
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For example, this LG G4 Phone had a file manager, video player, and photo gallery built in, and were provided and maintained by LG. I'm going to assume the same can be said for Samsung phones as well.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for AndroidElephant_Canyon likes this.01-02-16 01:12 AMLike 1 - You do realize that it's up to the hardware OEM (in this case BlackBerry) to make their own user experience. If the Priv is lacking features, BlackBerry is to blame.
For example, this LG G4 Phone had a file manager, video player, and photo gallery built in, and were provided and maintained by LG. I'm going to assume the same can be said for Samsung phones as well.
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Posted via Priv...01-02-16 01:16 AMLike 0 - Except for a file manager, all android devices provide video, picture and music app. And the file manager is not needed for Android to operate, you can do all tasks without one. But, unlike Apple, Google decided that it will not block such apps from existing (for those who need it) and devs have developed some pretty great ones (Solid Explorer being my preferred choice).01-02-16 01:37 AMLike 0
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- What, a file explorer? Please tell me what else he has to hunt and peck for outside of that.
And why does Cobalt exist if apps mean nothing to Blackberry users? Blackberry users spend more time trying to get certain apps for their phone than any other user of another OS has to.
BlackBerry Classic non-camera, Cricket Wirelesstufcustomer and johnny_bravo72 like this.01-02-16 06:38 AMLike 2 - This thread reminds me of the BBOS days when people would come in here and say "People don't need a full web browser on a phone. The gutted BBOS version is all anyone needs."01-02-16 07:50 AMLike 11
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