1. soundscan9800's Avatar
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    03-27-14 03:58 PM
  2. Stephen Cooper's Avatar
    I'm with you. Especially with DocsToGo.

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    03-27-14 04:07 PM
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    03-27-14 04:15 PM
  4. LoganSix's Avatar
    They are planning some "cloud" service. You on-line version of DocsToGo would just be saving it to the cloud.

    Building up payment services to the point where every large to medium bank had a logo that read "Supports BlackBerry Money " would be the best thing.

    Leave the books and music to others, just provide Native apps for best experience.

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    03-27-14 04:20 PM
  5. A895's Avatar
    Yes. That is my opinion one of the biggest knocks against BlackBerry is that they don't have some type of ecosystem. In today's tech world ecosystem is everything.

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    03-27-14 04:26 PM
  6. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    I personally think it's a waste of money when there's already so many services from other companies. Better off getting those services on BlackBerry then to make a new one.

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    03-27-14 04:41 PM
  7. cgk's Avatar
    I personally think it's a waste of money when there's already so many services from other companies. Better off getting those services on BlackBerry then to make a new one.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    Yep - I don't think some people understand the infrastructure costs associated with some of these products - especially when they work together - look at the integration of office with onedrive/onedrive pro/sharepoint on the ipad for example. Sure you are going to get one-man bands wanting to use docs to go - but pretty much every serious enterprise is just going to go with MFST.
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    03-27-14 04:51 PM
  8. A895's Avatar
    Yep - I don't think some people understand the infrastructure costs associated with some of these products - especially when they work together - look at the integration of office with skydrive on the ipad for example.
    Its interesting you mentioned that when office for iPad was announced today.

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    03-27-14 04:53 PM
  9. A895's Avatar
    I personally think it's a waste of money when there's already so many services from other companies. Better off getting those services on BlackBerry then to make a new one.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    They have to want to have their services on BlackBerry first. Or have a reliable developer who cab build some apps with their APIs. Seeing as there are very few, BlackBerry should step up and make their own. That's how you survive. Not rely on everyone else pitying you enough to help you out.

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    03-27-14 04:55 PM
  10. cgk's Avatar
    Its interesting you mentioned that when office for iPad was announced today.

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    That's why I mentioned it - every personal doc and all of enterprise docs are now instantly available with no work on my part (yes I could have used the onedrive app before or dropbox but clunky on ipad because of how locked down it is) and all perfectly integrated with our sharepoint set-up, I didn't even need to log in because onedrive already installed on device.

    BBRY ain't going to compete on that side of the enterprise business and shouldn't bother.
    03-27-14 04:56 PM
  11. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    They have to want to have their services on BlackBerry first. Or have a reliable developer who cab build some apps with their APIs. Seeing as there are very few, BlackBerry should step up and make their own. That's how you survive. Not rely on everyone else pitying you enough to help you out.

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    They don't have the resources to do what you want. It would be way more efficient to get existing services on the platform asap. Their focus should be on improving the OS and making unique apps not the same crap.

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    03-27-14 04:59 PM
  12. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Would be great in theory. At the end of the day, I believe the other platforms have done well because they stumbled into mobile AFTER creating successful main businesses. They mostly have strong ecosystems that help move devices. BBRY doesn't have this.

    However, Dave is right. Building stuff like that costs a lot of money. BBRY's competitor's had the time and have the resources. It's a tough spot to be in.

    Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Timing is everything.
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    03-27-14 05:04 PM
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    03-27-14 05:05 PM
  14. Bla1ze's Avatar
    It's not that they need more services IMO, it's that they need BETTER services. 7Digital and Rovio are terrible for videos and music. The built in photo editor should be built on Aviary and not baked in-house, Dropbox integration needs to be improved, this could be done through a partnership. Same with Box. etc etc etc.
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    03-27-14 05:37 PM
  15. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    It's not that they need more services IMO, it's that they need BETTER services. 7Digital and Rovio are terrible for videos and music. The built in photo editor should be built on Aviary and not baked in-house, Dropbox integration needs to be improved, this could be done through a partnership. Same with Box. etc etc etc.
    The problem is BlackBerry should not be developing apps that they haven't created originally themselves. So yea like you said.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    03-27-14 05:41 PM
  16. pittster's Avatar
    They should do CRM or partneror to bake it right in if possible. I think it makes sense .
    03-27-14 06:00 PM
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    03-27-14 06:17 PM
  18. RubberChicken76's Avatar
    Yep - I don't think some people understand the infrastructure costs associated with some of these products - especially when they work together - look at the integration of office with onedrive/onedrive pro/sharepoint on the ipad for example. Sure you are going to get one-man bands wanting to use docs to go - but pretty much every serious enterprise is just going to go with MFST.
    That's a big one and thank you for raising it. The key is to have a business model around it. For years, BlackBerry bread and butter was the service revenue. The hardware made money for a long time, but the real margins were in the service revenue ... that high gross margin, recurring revenue stream. As the service revenue stopped being appealing to increasing numbers of people, BlackBerry wasn't able to find a way to replace it - in a revenue generating way. I'm sure Many of BBMs 85 million users would love to see video chatting that's cross platform, but the infrastructure to support that is likely utterly massive ... and expensive. For what? It's good to keep up with the Joneses I guess, but can they afford it right now?
    03-27-14 06:22 PM
  19. RubberChicken76's Avatar
    The problem is BlackBerry should not be developing apps that they haven't created originally themselves. So yea like you said.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    I doubt they want to do it, but otherwise, would it get done?
    03-27-14 06:26 PM
  20. nabil114's Avatar
    Meaning, should they start focusing on services to compliment their devices business and compete with other services? I always thought BlackBerry was more than capable of building great services but they never really went there. I could've totally seen them make DocsToGo a little more robust and take the fight to Microsoft's, now on almost every platform, Office and Google's now much improved QuickOffice. Maybe even an online version of DocsToGo. A subscription music service maybe. Idk I guess it's just me wishing a lot more was coming out of Waterloo than what is being pushed out, which really isn't much. Anyway this is just wishful thinking. What kind of service would you have liked from BlackBerry? Or better yet, if you were working for them what would that service be? For me it'd be subscription music service like Spotify or Nokia MixRadio, I'd call it BlackBerry Spin. Lol. I'd even go as far as releasing BlackBerry World for Android devices as an alternative to the Amazon Appstore and Google Play. Could help them with smaller device manufacturers who aren't too open to Google's "open" Android and the requirements put on them if they wanted to use Google services.

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    Yes! ......................
    03-27-14 06:37 PM
  21. A895's Avatar
    They don't have the resources to do what you want. It would be way more efficient to get existing services on the platform asap. Their focus should be on improving the OS and making unique apps not the same crap.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    The problem mainly is that they should have done anything a while ago. They should work to make everything top notch in house first. The Docs to Go integration to have access to all cloud services to edit documents on the fly. The hub to be able to tie into various IM apps out of the box. Things like that could go a long way.

    Sent from my XT1060 using Mobile Nations mobile app
    03-27-14 07:01 PM
  22. bakron1's Avatar
    They don't have the resources to do what you want. It would be way more efficient to get existing services on the platform asap. Their focus should be on improving the OS and making unique apps not the same crap.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    I agree, rather then waste more money on developing these services. Integrate them in your OS and improve your app ecosystem by getting some developers on board to help in improving the existing one. I think it would be more value added at this stage in the game.

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    03-27-14 07:01 PM

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