- Good morning!
I am so pleased to have found this forum filled with those so knowledgeable about blackberry devices.
I am very seriously considering purchasing a BB Storm when they are released. My decision, however, hinges on the answer to the following question.
Is it possible for the end user to purposefully and permanently disable the GPS feature? If so, how would an end user (i.e., myself) go about disabling the GPS without otherwise effecting the functionality of the device?
Thank you in advance for your expertise,
~STS~Last edited by StrictlyTopSecret; 10-03-08 at 09:09 AM.
10-03-08 09:04 AMLike 0 -
- The VZW internal documents posted on Crackberry.com, Engadgetmobile.com, etc, show Standalone GPS and Blackberry Maps included. This is not the case with ANY of VZW's other devices, so the Storm sounds like it will have GPS unlocked. However, AGPS will only be for VZ Navigator.10-03-08 09:38 AMLike 0
- The VZW internal documents posted on Crackberry.com, Engadgetmobile.com, etc, show Standalone GPS and Blackberry Maps included. This is not the case with ANY of VZW's other devices, so the Storm sounds like it will have GPS unlocked. However, AGPS will only be for VZ Navigator.10-03-08 09:39 AMLike 0
- Is it the case, then, that the GPS functionality is still there (regardless of whether or not one chooses to purchase VZNav)? In other words, were I to purchase a Storm, use it on a Verizon network without VZNav, would it still be possible to generally determine (say within several miles) the physical location from which I placed a call?
Can an end user purchase a Storm which is NOT equipped with the GPS function at all?Last edited by StrictlyTopSecret; 10-03-08 at 09:42 AM.
10-03-08 09:39 AMLike 0 - Is it the case, then, that the GPS functionality is still there (regardless of whether or not one chooses to purchase VZNav)? In other words, were I to purchase a Storm, use it on a Verizon network without VZNav, would it still be possible to generally determine (say within several miles) the physical location from which I placed a call?10-03-08 09:42 AMLike 0
- LOL, I hear you, however, the "AGPS" is locked to VZ Navigator, so they still do have it sort of locked. The "Standalone GPS" would be used for things such as geotagging, google maps, and blackberry maps. So one would still be able to get their location/coordinates.10-03-08 09:44 AMLike 0
- LOL, I hear you, however, the "AGPS" is locked to VZ Navigator, so they still do have it sort of locked. The "Standalone GPS" would be used for things such as geotagging, google maps, and blackberry maps. So one would still be able to get their location/coordinates.10-03-08 09:47 AMLike 0
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I would be very interested in learning more about any legal issues pertaining to the requirement of GPS traceability of communications via cell phones.
Could someone please point me in the right direction?
Again, thanks so much for your help.
~STS~10-03-08 09:51 AMLike 0 - Yes, actually, that is precisely my goal (i.e., to eliminate the possibility geographically locating any call, 911 or otherwise, from the device).
I would be very interested in learning more about any legal issues pertaining to the requirement of GPS traceability of communications via cell phones.
Could someone please point me in the right direction?
Again, thanks so much for your help.
~STS~
At any rate, legally all cell phones must have GPS function to the point of having your location determined by emergency personelle. I think this goes hand in hand with the fact that all devices, even those not currently in service, must be able to dial out to 911.10-03-08 09:54 AMLike 0 - Looks like the E911 laws might vary from state-to-state.
See: hXXp://www.redskytech.com/e911_Center/legislation_policy/
Edit:
Update: I think I've found the info I needed here:
hXXp://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July-August-2003/feature_koerner_julaug03.msp
Thanks again to all who responded.
~STS~Last edited by StrictlyTopSecret; 10-03-08 at 10:16 AM.
10-03-08 09:59 AMLike 0 - Even if you could physically disable the E911 GPS, couldn't they just find out which cell towers your call went through and find your general location that way? Granted they would probably need a court order to do so, but it could be done...10-03-08 10:50 AMLike 0
- Cell tower triangulations offer a location to the nearest x amount of meters and is not an approximate way of determing where exactly someone is.10-03-08 10:52 AMLike 0
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Originally Posted by StrictlyTopSecretIn other words, were I to purchase a Storm, use it on a Verizon network without VZNav, would it still be possible to generally determine (say within several miles) the physical location from which I placed a call?10-03-08 11:08 AMLike 0 - Why would one voluntarily sacrifice their Constitutionally protected right to privacy by providing fully traceable, step-by-step location data to Verizon and/or any organizations/businesses/governmental entities who care to purchase (or subpoena) that information from Verizon?
~STS~10-03-08 11:25 AMLike 0 - Why would one voluntarily sacrifice their Constitutionally protected right to privacy by providing fully traceable, step-by-step location data to Verizon and/or any organizations/businesses/governmental entities who care to purchase (or subpoena) that information from Verizon?
~STS~10-03-08 11:36 AMLike 0 - Accidental PostSlayer of MisinformationWell as it goes with GPS it is always on due to E911 laws. Although jenay makes a good point VZW does cripple the GPS for use only with VZ Nav. But it still allows 911 operators to "see" where you are in case of emergency.10-03-08 11:43 AMLike 0
- Why would one voluntarily sacrifice their Constitutionally protected right to privacy by providing fully traceable, step-by-step location data to Verizon and/or any organizations/businesses/governmental entities who care to purchase (or subpoena) that information from Verizon?
~STS~10-03-08 11:44 AMLike 0
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