- Tired of beating back a lot of haters and naysayers today......I will "fight" any and all of ya'll......RIM is operating from a negative position, literally and figuratively, what are all of you expecting from today's numbers......seriously, back up and take in the whole perspective......some of you have been in this thing much longer then me so why so much piling on......someone explain please.....we should all be fighting FOR RIM and celebrating today....WE WIN!!!!
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Stewartj1 likes this.09-27-12 06:11 PMLike 1 - All our favorite naysayers kept telling us to wait until today for the results and then we will Finlay understand, they were right. They were wrong! but that wont stop them. Hate is a powerful fource once it gets ahold of you. I pity their lifestyle!09-27-12 06:16 PMLike 2
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RIM is in a gun fight, bring the UZI or go home.09-27-12 07:30 PMLike 0 - I agree with the OP! RIM posting a net gain in subscribers without releasing a new flagship device in over a year really says something about why people user BlackBerry devices and why BlackBerry 10 will always have a chance (or more than, going off of what we've seen) to win back dissenters.
This seems to be a good place to post this article. I was reading this just minutes before the earnings call started and just after reading the press release. Just wanted to showcase this to all those who are so sure of their armchair predictions (assurances) of RIM's "death". Needless to say, this turned out to be pretty funny in hindsight:
RIM Earnings To Erase BlackBerry 10 Bounce?
Research In Motion reports quarterly earnings Thursday, and the news could erase the gains its stock price made this week on news of its BlackBerry 10 platform.
By Eric Zeman, InformationWeek
September 27, 2012
URL: RIM Earnings To Erase BlackBerry 10 Bounce? - Mobility - Smartphones
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Research In Motion CEO Thorsten Heins has had a busy week. He kicked things off at the company's BlackBerry Jam developer conference in San Jose, where he took the stage to present the latest information about RIM's forthcoming smartphone platform, BlackBerry 10.
The preview of BB10 was somewhat well received by developers, although RIM still managed to make some missteps along the way (see the video at the bottom of this story). Some of the features shown off by RIM include the ability to navigate through the user interface with a single digit. RIM calls this idea BlackBerry Flow. Heins commented that RIM wants its customers to be able to use their devices one-handed.
The other big piece of BB10 is the BlackBerry Hub, which is where all messages--emails, IMs, texts, Facebook, Twitter, et al--land. The Hub can be called up from anywhere else in the user interface thanks to some touch-based gestures, and serves as a master inbox. RIM also talked a bit about the browser, which will lean heavily on HTML5.
The news was encouraging enough to lift RIM's battered stock as much as 7% by the close of trading Wednesday. Even so, RIM's shares are still down 90% from a peak in February 2011.
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Today, RIM's CEO will face an entirely different audience: investors. They are sure to be less enthusiastic than the developers to whom Heins spoke on Tuesday. The company is due to report its second fiscal quarter earnings after the close of the market, and all signs point to another disastrous period for the smartphone maker.
Forbes believes RIM's revenue will have sunk $2.8 billion with a net loss of about $518 million.
Two vital numbers will be revealed by RIM today: cash on hand, and its cash burn rate. Three months ago, it reported cash assets of about $2.2 billion. If RIM records the $518 million loss Forbes believes it well, that would leave RIM with about $1.7 billion in cash on hand. It's not quite clear how much cash RIM needs to hold onto to fund operations.
"We remain cautious on RIM," said Wedbush analyst Scott Sutherland in a recent note to clients, "and expect FQ2 results to be below expectations, and we expect reduced guidance. While we see some value in RIM, given the lack of content and device ecosystems, we believe RIM's integrated strategy will continue to face significant challenges."
RIM's BlackBerry 10 platform and smartphones aren't expected to arrive for another four or five months. By then, who knows how much cash RIM will have. RIM's current path defines the phrase "leading life on the bleeding edge."Last edited by FlashFlare11; 09-27-12 at 07:44 PM.
Stewartj1 likes this.09-27-12 07:40 PMLike 1 - Dude, no way..do not brush it off: RIM needs to see that they have avid fans and supporters like Google, Samsung and Apple. As Canadians we are all to happy to turn the other cheek while our icons get attacked. If
you put a bad comment on a board about SIRI, you will get 20 comments back about how ground breaking and great SIRI is. And you will told that BB explode when they stream youtube videos
RIM is in a gun fight, bring the UZI or go home.
YEAAAAAAA.....revenge is a meal best served cold......bbinsight likes this.09-27-12 07:48 PMLike 1 - The sick part about this post: These "professionals" feel comfortable bashing this company, feeding off of other articles, posting wrong info. In other words, piling on.
I wonder if there was any repercussion for posting this garbage, never mind, i already know the answer. This is the indication and proof as to why I assert that BB needs more than a killer phone to win this game. It needs to be single win after single win after single win to show that the brand is for real. It looks like the CEO is up for that.
article quote:The preview of BB10 was somewhat well received by developers, although RIM still managed to make some missteps along the way.09-27-12 07:49 PMLike 0 - You blackberry fans just don't get it. Oh wow Blackberry hub , peak and flow and all the other stuff...big deal. You know what apple's iphone5 has? An extra row of Apps...BOOM.... leapfrogged everyone out of the water with that one. Ya you still can't believe how amazing out of the box that was? Also move over google map with your EXACT location garbage. Apple maps will take you on an adventure...sure you will never get to where you want to go but that's what makes it cool. Also buying a brand new phone without scratches??BORING it's cool when you have that used look like wearing worn out jeans. I know what you blackberry fans are going to say....What about NFC? You have to have something to look forward to so leaving out NFC makes me want the iphone5s. I'm an ifan and I said my rant.
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09-27-12 11:02 PMLike 0 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorYou blackberry fans just don't get it. Oh wow Blackberry hub , peak and flow and all the other stuff...big deal. You know what apple's iphone5 has? An extra row of Apps...BOOM.... leapfrogged everyone out of the water with that one. Ya you still can't believe how amazing out of the box that was? Also move over google map with your EXACT location garbage. Apple maps will take you on an adventure...sure you will never get to where you want to go but that's what makes it cool. Also buying a brand new phone without scratches??BORING it's cool when you have that used look like wearing worn out jeans. I know what you blackberry fans are going to say....What about NFC? You have to have something to look forward to so leaving out NFC makes me want the iphone5s. I'm an ifan and I said my rant.
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Edited : my bad, I didn't get the sarcastic in that post. Yet, the song remains !Last edited by Superfly_FR; 09-28-12 at 01:50 AM.
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- Tired of beating back a lot of haters and naysayers today......I will "fight" any and all of ya'll......RIM is operating from a negative position, literally and figuratively, what are all of you expecting from today's numbers......seriously, back up and take in the whole perspective......some of you have been in this thing much longer then me so why so much piling on......someone explain please.....we should all be fighting FOR RIM and celebrating today....WE WIN!!!!
Sent from my #Motofail... Further Plans coming soon...09-28-12 09:13 AMLike 0 - Tired of beating back a lot of haters and naysayers today......I will "fight" any and all of ya'll......RIM is operating from a negative position, literally and figuratively, what are all of you expecting from today's numbers......seriously, back up and take in the whole perspective......some of you have been in this thing much longer then me so why so much piling on......someone explain please.....we should all be fighting FOR RIM and celebrating today....WE WIN!!!!
P.S. Where in N.J. do they say ya'll? What a bozo! HAHAHA09-28-12 09:19 AMLike 0 - Tired of beating back a lot of haters and naysayers today......I will "fight" any and all of ya'll......RIM is operating from a negative position, literally and figuratively, what are all of you expecting from today's numbers......seriously, back up and take in the whole perspective......some of you have been in this thing much longer then me so why so much piling on......someone explain please.....we should all be fighting FOR RIM and celebrating today....WE WIN!!!!
Revenue, profit, unit sales, average selling price, market share, percentage of sales to new customers, stock price and employee count are all trending downward. Total subscriber count continues to climb, but the gain is diminishing every quarter. The best news is that total cash is increasing, which is a surprise.
While the coverage of RIM has been very negative over the last couple years, that's driven in large part by the negative trending in RIM's business. RIM's coverage will not improve until their results do, and until then it's silly to expect positive reporting for what even RIM insiders would describe as a performance worthy of severe criticism. If RIM can right itself others will take notice, but RIM's going to have to make the first move, so to speak.09-28-12 10:11 AMLike 3 - diegoneiRetired Mod & AmbassadorI'm not sure the "whole perspective" helps here, as that would reveal the following:
Revenue, profit, unit sales, average selling price, market share, percentage of sales to new customers, stock price and employee count are all trending downward. Total subscriber count continues to climb, but the gain is diminishing every quarter. The best news is that total cash is increasing, which is a surprise.
While the coverage of RIM has been very negative over the last couple years, that's driven in large part by the negative trending in RIM's business. RIM's coverage will not improve until their results do, and until then it's silly to expect positive reporting for what even RIM insiders would describe as a performance worthy of severe criticism. If RIM can right itself others will take notice, but RIM's going to have to make the first move, so to speak.
http://crackberry.com/here’s-what-in...7;s-q2-results
Armchair analysis of BlackBerry Jam Americas 2012 and Research In Motion earnings preview | CrackBerry.com
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/27/34...on-smartphones
I'd say we are still gonna have to count with a lot of marketing and a flawless deployment for BB10, bug the situation is far from the doom & gloom most want us to think.Last edited by diegonei; 09-28-12 at 10:48 AM.
09-28-12 10:45 AMLike 0 - Um, no. I don't fight for any company for which I don't work or in which I'm not invested. That said, if RIM continues to produce products I like better than others, I may continue to purchase them.09-28-12 12:22 PMLike 6
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Ahhh Rick, who needs to answer that???? me, a moderator....its already posted baby.....that train already left the station....09-28-12 01:10 PMLike 0 - I'm very pleased. BB10 is coming along nicely. We are seeing some nice specs being leaked. We are seeing that they are hoarding cash until it's time to market BB10. It's a new RIM and still with lots of great dedicated people.
Interesting, though, to see some naysayers writing positive news on RIM. See if the tide shifts a bit.09-28-12 01:45 PMLike 0
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