Is Chen's Neglect of the BB10 Base a Deliberate Attempt to Force them to Adopt Android?
- Is Chen's Neglect of the BB10 Base a Deliberate Attempt to Force them to Adopt Android?
Whether it's his intention or not, it's certainly not going to work for me! I'll go with LG, Asus or Samsung for Android.06-27-16 02:59 PMLike 0 - Why, Whats the problem with Blackberry's Android? Lets exclude the Priv's Official Price from the discussion.06-27-16 03:40 PMLike 0
- Going Android seems not to make sense if Chen is saying that BlackBerry what's to increase Software and Services revenues. BlackBerrys running Android don't specifically require BlackBerry EMM solutions so this will impact them negatively there. BlackBerry needs BB10 for them to sell BES12.
BlackBerry BB10 forever06-27-16 04:24 PMLike 0 -
The key components for several BB10 phones are no longer available. Qualcomm has no interest in creating new drivers for BB10 even if there was a team at BlackBerry that could do something with the new components.JeepBB likes this.06-27-16 04:33 PMLike 1 - Does anyone else feel Chen is actively and intentionally trying to cull it's BB10 loyalist from the ranks, so the platform can die--at least for consumers--and Chen will have the cover of saying he was committed to BB10 but discontinued it because of lack of user interest?
So no I don't think he trying to do that.
On the contrary, he wants you to drain the channel of BB10 devices.
JC probably chuckles to himself as he thinks about something P. T. Barnum once said.06-27-16 06:20 PMLike 3 - Chen doesn't have to cull the BB10 loyalists for the BB10 platform to die.
So no I don't think he trying to do that.
On the contrary, he wants you to drain the channel of BB10 devices.
JC probably chuckles to himself as he thinks about something P. T. Barnum once said.06-27-16 06:22 PMLike 0 - Chen doesn't have to cull the BB10 loyalists for the BB10 platform to die.
So no I don't think he trying to do that.
On the contrary, he wants you to drain the channel of BB10 devices.
JC probably chuckles to himself as he thinks about something P. T. Barnum once said.donate $3000 to Berniebuy ten Passports and we'll win eventually!06-27-16 06:24 PMLike 0 - Chen doesn't have to cull the BB10 loyalists for the BB10 platform to die.
So no I don't think he trying to do that.
On the contrary, he wants you to drain the channel of BB10 devices.
JC probably chuckles to himself as he thinks about something P. T. Barnum once said.
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I can't imagine the headache I'd get trying to do on a Bold 9900 some of the work-related things I do on my 6S.06-27-16 08:28 PMLike 0 -
Your avatar tells me you're biased towards iPhone.. But such comparison takes the whole biased thing to another level xD06-27-16 09:03 PMLike 0 -
But to answer your accusation, consider that in 2011, here on this site (and probably still today) the iPhone was maligned as a "toy for teenagers" and the Bold/Curves were held up as an iconic tool of professional business people who only "do real work on their phones". So no, even the iPhone 4S (launched in 2011) offered more in "professional business apps", screen real estate, and processing power than the 9900. So there's a 2011 phone vs 2011 phone comparison for you.
So I don't know that it's necessarily that I'm biased towards Android or iOS...more like just been burned by BlackBerry's broken promises too many times. "Coming soon..." "Coming this summer..." "Coming before the holiday shopping season..."
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...l#post12485188
06-27-16 09:19 PMLike 5 - Am I biased towards iOS at this point in time? Possibly. I have no brand loyalty, can (and do) switch back and forth between Android and iOS frequently (much to my wife's frustration). I use Google apps and ecosystem on Apple's iPhone, because that is what works best for me personally and professionally at this point in my life. But see my quoted post below for my BlackBerry history (and also to answer your next question of "what are you doing here at CrackBerry"...long time user, pop in every now and then to see that, yup, not much has changed. Also was a moderator here for a while.
But to answer your accusation, consider that in 2011, here on this site (and probably still today) the iPhone was maligned as a "toy for teenagers" and the Bold/Curves were held up as an iconic tool of professional business people who only "do real work on their phones". So no, even the iPhone 4S (launched in 2011) offered more in "professional business apps", screen real estate, and processing power than the 9900. So there's a 2011 phone vs 2011 phone comparison for you.
So I don't know that it's necessarily that I'm biased towards Android or iOS...more like just been burned by BlackBerry's broken promises too many times. "Coming soon..." "Coming this summer..." "Coming before the holiday shopping season..."
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...l#post12485188
- First, I knew you were going to make a 2011 vs 2011 Comparison as response .. My point was just about the 2011 phone Vs the 2015.. You really made us look bad there xD.. 9900 Vs iPhone 6s.. So yeah 9900 Vs iPhone 4s is more fair.
- I never thought of BlackBerry as the business, work & professional phone.. while the iPhone being the toy phone.. Or that BlackBerry is better in that aspect.. its just that it was a pretty good phone at what we do the most as users.. I'm a guy who did a lot of texting in BBM and apps like that.. So it was very convenient for me.. I also loved the E-mail, keyboard and the ability to type without looking.. Every user has his preferences.. Personally, I dislike apple because of a long list of reasons.. But that's just me, however I don't deny they're good phones..
- I salute you for the long list of BlackBerry phones, its an impressive one.. I don't even come close to it as my first one was back in 2010.. Regarding the Bold 9900 Vs iPhone 4s.. I'll go for the 9900 every time, you even went for it xD.. But again its a matter of preferences.. I never believe in the whole that phone is better than that phone thing.. Its just what you like.. and I like Blackberry & Android.. But I dislike iPhone/iOS/Apple..
Do visit us often in CrackBerry, lots of interesting stuff.. Lots of BB10 V Android.. You'll love it xD.john_v likes this.06-27-16 09:41 PMLike 1 - Do you honestly think that Blackberry cares that you use BB10 or that people have "stuck with them" with their OS? . . . . They don't care about you or I in the sense that anyone was "loyal" to them. . . . Why some of you act like BB is a family member that should do right by you is unbelievable.
I consider him family. That's what counts.
If he weren't family, I wouldn't have run rolls of toilet paper thru my printers the last couple of years, printed copies of Chen's visage on said rolls, and wiped the rears of my canines exclusively with this printed product.
That's what family does for family, even when one or more members don't wish to acknowledge the familial relationship.donnation likes this.06-28-16 01:25 AMLike 1 - Do you honestly think that Blackberry cares that you use BB10 or that people have "stuck with them" with their OS? They care about one thing and one thing only, making money. The notion that they should "woo" its foundation users is laughable. They always have and always will be in the business of making money. If the Playbook didn't teach you that then I don't know what to tell you. They don't care about you or I in the sense that anyone was "loyal" to them. Not their fault as that is the nature of business.
Why some of you act like BB is a family member that should do right by you is unbelievable. They want to make money by any means necessary and BB10 isn't making them money.donnation likes this.06-28-16 01:43 AMLike 1 - Chen doesn't consider me family? Doesn't matter.
I consider him family. That's what counts.
If he weren't family, I wouldn't have run rolls of toilet paper thru my printers the last couple of years, printed copies of Chen's visage on said rolls, and wiped the rears of my canines exclusively with this printed product.
That's what family does for family, even when one or more members don't wish to acknowledge the familial relationship.06-28-16 04:25 AMLike 0 - Do you honestly think that Blackberry cares that you use BB10 or that people have "stuck with them" with their OS? They care about one thing and one thing only, making money. The notion that they should "woo" its foundation users is laughable. They always have and always will be in the business of making money. If the Playbook didn't teach you that then I don't know what to tell you. They don't care about you or I in the sense that anyone was "loyal" to them. Not their fault as that is the nature of business.
Why some of you act like BB is a family member that should do right by you is unbelievable. They want to make money by any means necessary and BB10 isn't making them money.
BlackBerry BB10 forever06-28-16 07:13 AMLike 0 -
BlackBerry BB10 forever06-28-16 07:22 AMLike 0 -
Samsung and Apple make products that people want to buy.
For Samsung in particular the loyalty factor is not very significant.
If Samsung makes a phone that people don't want to buy they will purchase from a competitor.
The loyalty factor may be higher with Apple but still not significant.
If brand a and brand b produce absolutely equal offerings then brand loyalty might be the deciding factor.
Most consumers are not very brand loyal any more.
Now if you want to talk about vendor lock-in, that is a different story.06-28-16 08:50 AMLike 2 - Loyalty is what makes money for businesses. The repeat buyers are why keep businesses alive. That's the reason why Apple and Samsung are a success. The people who continuously buy they products they churn out. BlackBerry has loyal customers and it's high time Chen and crew did something to keep us interested. There are loyal customers who want apps and going Android will help but there are those that have grown to love BB10 and they shouldn't be forgotten.
BlackBerry BB10 foreverDrBoomBotz likes this.06-28-16 09:42 AMLike 1 -
So in laymen's terms, telling these so-called "loyalists" to pound sand is actually GOOD for business.Ronindan likes this.06-28-16 10:28 AMLike 1 - We are cash paying customers by the way. We never said they should give us BB10 devices for free. BlackBerry messed up on their transition from BBOS to BB10 and lost developers along they way. They are more likely to lose those using BB10 also if they fail to realise our importance
BlackBerry BB10 forever
I'm agreeing about the context of the post.. Didn't mean it the way you understood it..
But my mistake actually, shouldn't have used the word charity.. I Should've said Orphanage.. Yeah Blackberry doesn't run an orphanage xD.. so no need to hear people saying BlackBerry doesn't care about us and all this sad talk.. Companies care about making money, they tried to make it with BB10.. They couldn't, so they moved on to android.06-28-16 11:50 AMLike 0 - Here we go again.. My comment was made on another person's comment.. I'm going to narrow it down.. "Why some of you act like BB is a family member that should do right by you is unbelievable. They want to make money by any means necessary and BB10 isn't making them money."
I'm agreeing about the context of the post.. Didn't mean it the way you understood it..
But my mistake actually, shouldn't have used the word charity.. I Should've said Orphanage.. Yeah Blackberry doesn't run an orphanage xD.. so no need to hear people saying BlackBerry doesn't care about us and all this sad talk.. Companies care about making money, they tried to make it with BB10.. They couldn't, so they moved on to android.
BlackBerry BB10 forever06-28-16 01:37 PMLike 0
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