Is the BlackBerry that we love dead?
- To the OP: you are exactly on point. Chen is obviously not a smartphone guy and was hand-picked by a major investor to salvage his investment after a liquidation was blocked by Canadian regulators. Crackberry members desperately want him to turn into a smartphone guy and will cling to just about anything he says in that vein.
The fact is that the company's market share is now too small to participate in the consumer smartphone race. It's too small to build a tablet business from scratch. There is a clear strategy to try to break even in the hardware business with retro products and features. Any new hardware focused on enterprise customers will likely be missing the new consumer-oriented features that other platforms are constantly adding.
If you really want a high-end touch-screen phone and a tablet, Blackberry isn't the company to be in love with. Neither of those efforts were very successful and it's clear that the company is moving away from those segments of the mobile market.04-19-14 09:27 AMLike 3 - Video editing is software, not hardware. The Z30 can record 1080p. Equalizer is software, not hardware. HDR is software. Most of what you mention is software and not hardware related.
BTW: I had a Dev A Z10 and have a Q10 with 1GB of RAM. There is no 2 min lag so don't try to say something that isn't true. I even have 10.2 on the Q10 and it doesn't lag.
Because if you are you are calling Thorstein and all these dev liars
Thorstein wasn't happy with playbook performance with BB10
A dev device had the beta not optimized for speed
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...device-769888/
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-19-14 09:30 AMLike 0 - That's more to do with bbry then anything
Manufacturers typically do advertising or cofund it with carriers
Bbry doesn't really do advertising which is a take from the rim days
Let's see be bold campaign
The bold team
The wake up we want tools not toys (ended with a lot of vandalism) which is bad for bbry's image
The super bowl disaster
Announcing z10 a full 2 months before it was available
It was released in England in Feb and Canada in march us in April
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!Alain_A and bambinoitaliano like this.04-19-14 09:31 AMLike 2 -
Nothing to do with Chen.
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-19-14 09:33 AMLike 0 - I played with a dev device are you sure you ain't talking about a full retail ?
Because if you are you are calling Thorstein and all these dev liars
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...device-769888/
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-19-14 09:37 AMLike 0 - Video editing is software, not hardware. The Z30 can record 1080p. Equalizer is software, not hardware. HDR is software. Most of what you mention is software and not hardware related.
BTW: I had a Dev A Z10 and have a Q10 with 1GB of RAM. There is no 2 min lag so don't try to say something that isn't true. I even have 10.2 on the Q10 and it doesn't lag.
Quite a huge difference
Dev c devices according to the above link people mention cannot open more then 2 tabs you telling me that memory management isn't an issue? Tell that to the playbook users
Who have 1 gig of memory
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-19-14 09:39 AMLike 0 -
http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones...fications.html
FYI caught you with a mistake
Q10 has 2 gigs of memory
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-19-14 09:42 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CrackBerry App04-19-14 09:43 AMLike 8 - I didn't say the q10 lags I said better memory management
Quite a huge difference
Dev c devices according to the above link people mention cannot open more then 2 tabs you telling me that memory management isn't an issue? Tell that to the playbook users
Who have 1 gig of memory
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-19-14 09:44 AMLike 0 - So explain Thorstein and all those developers in that thread the ones that state there is a memory issue with a gig of memory that was on Dev device
BlackBerry Q10 Specs - Specifications - BlackBerry Q10 Smartphone - US
FYI caught you with a mistake
Q10 has 2 gigs of memory
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!meltbox360 likes this.04-19-14 09:45 AMLike 1 - I didn't say the q10 lags I said better memory management
Quite a huge difference
Dev c devices according to the above link people mention cannot open more then 2 tabs you telling me that memory management isn't an issue? Tell that to the playbook users
Who have 1 gig of memory
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About the Z30, I really can't see how people argue that the screen is good. Pixels are noticeable. When I went to check it out when I was in the store, EVEN MY GRANDFATHER didn't like the screen. His main complaint was that it was dark (on full brightness) but also said it didn't look as crisp. He obviously doesn't know the technical stuff, but it's the pixels. They are definitely noticeable. If you seriously can't see the difference between the Z30 screen and say the GSIV screen, then get your eyes checked.04-19-14 09:46 AMLike 4 -
"I guess it may be inconsistent, as others have told me numerous things barely launch (like Twitter/FB apps, and many others).
The fact it can work is great for anyone for whom it actually does though! :-)
Given that some BB employees are stuck with the DAs and 1GB phones for the next while, I could see them keeping the firmware alive on it for a few months yet actually."
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-19-14 09:46 AMLike 0 -
The real thing that has been abandoned, imo, is the mobile computing vision in which the phone, tablet, and PC all all connected where ever you are. No one else is pursuing this kind of thing but I do see that you can now access your home PC through Chrome with an Android phone. This is at least in the neighborhood of where BlackBerry was going.
Posted via CB1004-19-14 09:49 AMLike 0 - The focus is on Keyboards and bringing back the "belt." This is not a fiction, this is what BlackBerry says. These are looking backward in my opinion. There may be a market for these things but I am not part of that market.
The real thing that has been abandoned, imo, is the mobile computing vision in which the phone, tablet, and PC all all connected where ever you are. No one else is pursuing this kind of thing but I do see that you can now access your home PC through Chrome with an Android phone. This is at least in the neighborhood of where BlackBerry was going.
Posted via CB1004-19-14 09:52 AMLike 4 - I didn't really want to get involved any further but here goes: these are good points but one I think is important to look at is that the Z3 (BlackBerry's absolute LOWEST end phone) needs 1.5 GB of RAM. Windows Phone and Android both run on 512MB. Not sure how smooth Android is but Windows Phone is very smooth. Not only that, but I'm friends with a developer and he has used a Z3 and says that it is laggy and he is disappointed.
About the Z30, I really can't see how people argue that the screen is good. Pixels are noticeable. When I went to check it out when I was in the store, EVEN MY GRANDFATHER didn't like the screen. His main complaint was that it was dark (on full brightness) but also said it didn't look as crisp. He obviously doesn't know the technical stuff, but it's the pixels. They are definitely noticeable. If you seriously can't see the difference between the Z30 screen and say the GSIV screen, then get your eyes checked.
The pixels on the Z30 are not noticeable. The human eye can't see ppi in the range that the Z30 has. I have shown the Z30 to dozens of people and showed them movies, photos and screens and no one has said anything about pixels or fuzzy.04-19-14 09:52 AMLike 0 - To the OP: you are exactly on point. Chen is obviously not a smartphone guy and was hand-picked by a major investor to salvage his investment after a liquidation was blocked by Canadian regulators. Crackberry members desperately want him to turn into a smartphone guy and will cling to just about anything he says in that vein.
The fact is that the company's market share is now too small to participate in the consumer smartphone race. It's too small to build a tablet business from scratch. There is a clear strategy to try to break even in the hardware business with retro products and features. Any new hardware focused on enterprise customers will likely be missing the new consumer-oriented features that other platforms are constantly adding.
If you really want a high-end touch-screen phone and a tablet, Blackberry isn't the company to be in love with. Neither of those efforts were very successful and it's clear that the company is moving away from those segments of the mobile market.
BlackBerry should have been given a mandate by Canada like GM was given by the US. GM is making great cars now. And has paid back their loans. BlackBerry will never do that because Chen's goal is to kill the company not save it.
via CB10 using a Z10 / STL100-3 / RFK121LW / 10.2.1.2234 / T-Mobile USA04-19-14 09:55 AMLike 0 -
And I can stop and rewind
Without stopping the other screen
That's with 2 gigs of memory on s4
Show me bb10 can run all 6 screen on less then 2 gigs
Z3 Noone has seen yet run and bbry has stated things will be adjusted as the lower memory
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-19-14 09:55 AMLike 0 - A company like HTC can take a shot at the high-end smartphone market but you've got to use Android and do a lot of advertising. You can't advance a mobile platform that sells less than 10 million devices per year. Even then, it doesn't look like HTC is getting much traction with an unquestionably high-end smartphone.04-19-14 09:56 AMLike 0
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Posted via CB10Bluenoser63 likes this.04-19-14 09:56 AMLike 1 - You have to create the products for the people who want them. There is a large group of people (some very vocal on this site) who want the tool belt. There are a lot of 9900 users that I know that don't want to upgrade to the Q10 because they want it. You have to know your users and the market. Right now we only know that there will be the "Classic" that has the belt. It might be mocked by those who don't want it, but it will be greeted warmly by those who want it.acovey likes this.04-19-14 09:58 AMLike 1
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Posted via CB1004-19-14 09:59 AMLike 0 - I did have a look it's very hard to miss show us something more taxing I can play 2 full videos even youtube on my s4 at the same time and split screen that is more taxing then a browser windows and msging
And I can stop and rewind
Without stopping the other screen
That's with 2 gigs of memory on s4
Show me bb10 can run all 6 screen on less then 2 gigs
Z3 Noone has seen yet run and bbry has stated things will be adjusted as the lower memory
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-19-14 10:01 AMLike 0 - Needs and have are two different things. I can run 4+ apps on 10.2.1 running on a 1GB Q10. It doesn't lag. It is a little slower than the Z30, but that is mostly GPU/CPU related, not memory. Can't comment on a Z3 as I don't have one, but I have developed and tested apps on the 1GB Q10 and was not disappointed.
The pixels on the Z30 are not noticeable. The human eye can't see ppi in the range that the Z30 has. I have shown the Z30 to dozens of people and showed them movies, photos and screens and no one has said anything about pixels or fuzzy.
As far as the PPI number, that's been highly debated. Research shows (from maybe 2 years ago, just before the launch of the iPhone 5 if I remember) that it should be like 450PPI because that's that the eye can't detect from 12" away. The 300 number, from some research and from my own personal experiences, is wrong.04-19-14 10:01 AMLike 0 - 04-19-14 10:02 AMLike 2
- You know high end specs
High end features and even basic features like video editing, 1080p recording, a equalizer, a decent hdr and lens (new improved hdr in 10.3 beta tells all)
Panaromic shots, blur shots , no buried menus
Full data control
Better memory management
Bbry is the only phone that requires 2 gigs of memory
While others can run their latest version on 512megs ram smoothly
Android 4.4.2 and all I phones don't have 2 gigs of memory that says it all
I used a dev c z 10 which was horrible those things had a 1 gig of ram and you had a 2 min click lag between clicking and registering the click
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