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  1. Loc22's Avatar
    Yeah have no interest in a BlackBerry running Android as the base. Useless IMHO. I invested in QNX for reasons and Android with a BB10 skin is useless. I'd just go to regular Android or iOS.

    Here are the issues if they go Android:

    - The hardware is no different for BB10 or Android. So switching to Android isn't going to all the sudden make hardware cheaper or make the costs to BlackBerry cheaper. It also won't save them on development costs as now they have to customize and secure the monolithic kernel of Android.

    - The BlackBerry name is garbage, even in Enterprise. It is has too much negativity tied to it. Switching to Android won't change this and BlackBerry will still have invest in be brand rehab and/or rebranding. They haven't done this before, so why would they do it if this happens.

    - OK you have apps now, but no advertising, and have never been advertise a single thing effectively the entire time the company has been around. Who is going to know that BlackBerry switched to Android or what this new Franken10 OS is good for. Why would someone want to come to BlackBerry Android given how poorly BlackBerry has handled their own OS.

    - How many OEMs are doing great with Android and making money. Samsung is even having issues now and they are the gold standard for Android. It is a race to the bottom OS and will eventually all be Chinese brands IMHO.

    Anyway switching to Android will only fix one of BlackBerry's many problems and still leave a lit out there for them to address, and they haven't shown any desire to address those to this point and if people here say they don't have the resources to address them now with their own OS then they won't be able to address them a half year from now with another OS.

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    Well said

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    05-13-15 01:06 PM
  2. Bravurag's Avatar
    I think the fans here should start requesting apps from its developers on their forum, blogs or their social account or even in the app review on app stores

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    This is fine idea!!

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    05-13-15 01:08 PM
  3. Bravurag's Avatar
    Yet you said you loaded Line, which isn't technically available on BlackBerry. So what if you had no way to get Line on your device? Now substitute Line for an app that someone else sees as important.

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    I loaded Line for one friend of mine who stuck with IOS! Rest friends use BBM and skype! I HOPE I WILL BE ALIVE IF I HAVE NO WAY TO GET LINE....

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    05-13-15 01:11 PM
  4. Bravurag's Avatar
    Except that there is no evidence that the Blackberry apps will ever come. It doesn't matter why the apps aren't there nor how long it took for Android. There isn't much reason to develop apps for a platform that is under 1% market share, which I think describes Blackberry currently.
    I remember Android was once under 1% market share!!!!

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    05-13-15 01:13 PM
  5. GadgetTravel's Avatar
    I remember Android was once under 1% market share!!!!

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    Yes, when it was first introduced. It took the market share from companies like BB though.
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    05-13-15 01:16 PM
  6. Bravurag's Avatar
    Yes, when it was first introduced. It took the market share from companies like BB though.
    "Get and give" is the rule of market!!!

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    05-13-15 01:20 PM
  7. lnichols's Avatar
    I remember Android was once under 1% market share!!!!

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    Yes and it didn't get apps. At that time BlackBerry only had BBOS which sucked for app developers as a platform. Android grew rapidly because it was app Friendly, BBOS was not. Then after a couple years BlackBerry realized they needed a new OS that is app friendly and then started working on it.

    People have options to get apps, and it is buy an Apple or Android device, or go through a bunch of work arounds on BB10. The market has spoken on which way they prefer.

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    05-13-15 01:36 PM
  8. GadgetTravel's Avatar
    "Get and give" is the rule of market!!!

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    I think there is a bigger issue here as well. Cell phones are relatively new devices. At first there was a mix of big companies moving into the market as well as new companies, like BB. The market has really matured since then and consolidated around some VERY big companies. For instance, Apple has CASH on hand that would enable it to buy BB more than 30 times over as I do the math. How can a company like BB compete with that or Google?
    05-13-15 02:21 PM
  9. Bravurag's Avatar
    Yes and it didn't get apps. At that time BlackBerry only had BBOS which sucked for app developers as a platform. Android grew rapidly because it was app Friendly, BBOS was not. Then after a couple years BlackBerry realized they needed a new OS that is app friendly and then started working on it.

    People have options to get apps, and it is buy an Apple or Android device, or go through a bunch of work arounds on BB10. The market has spoken on which way they prefer.

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    So let market decide! Don't popup and promote Android! Have 1000 apps on your Android on be happy

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    05-13-15 02:32 PM
  10. Bravurag's Avatar
    If we can anxiously wait new BlackBerry devices we can wait for apps as well! Right know we are happy what we have. No Complaints! I am on CB right? I am not on Android Central complaining about secure OS with add less apps

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    05-13-15 02:39 PM
  11. Bravurag's Avatar
    I think there is a bigger issue here as well. Cell phones are relatively new devices. At first there was a mix of big companies moving into the market as well as new companies, like BB. The market has really matured since then and consolidated around some VERY big companies. For instance, Apple has CASH on hand that would enable it to buy BB more than 30 times over as I do the math. How can a company like BB compete with that or Google?
    Still presidents and diplomats prefer BlackBerry! Isn't it?

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    05-13-15 02:41 PM
  12. Bravurag's Avatar
    Apps are like furniture but if your house is not built on strong foundation then furnishing doesn't matter

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    05-13-15 02:43 PM
  13. Bravurag's Avatar
    What I have seen in real life 9-18 yo with android playing candy crush! BlackBerry is meant for business and no other smartphone can beat BlackBerry on productivity!!

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    05-13-15 02:46 PM
  14. mnc76's Avatar
    Even Windows with all its transformations still has some DOS as it's foundation.
    DOS has been removed from windows for over a decade and a half now. Windows Millennium was the last version of Windows to run on DOS.

    Windows NT, Windows 2000, etc... do not run on top of DOS and tons of old DOS apps are next to impossible to get running on Windows now.

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    05-13-15 03:11 PM
  15. lnichols's Avatar
    So let market decide! Don't popup and promote Android! Have 1000 apps on your Android on be happy

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    LOL. I've been using BB10 and exclusively using it longer than you have, unless you were part of the UK launch buy.

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    05-13-15 03:16 PM
  16. mnc76's Avatar
    1mobile is a cesspool of malware, spyware, etc. If you are crazy enough to get your banking apps from there, then I hope your bank has VERY generous fraud policies. There is a reason why no company would ever make such a store "official."
    Yet Crackberry had many articles on how to install 1mobile, Aptoide, and use Apk train (I still remember James Richardson's article title : "Everyone get on board the APK train!", Ughhhh).

    Good point about banking apps. It doesn't matter that the bb10 file system is different than Android or that the bb10 android runtime is sandboxed -- even with all that, its still the height of simplicity to steal someone's login info in a fake banking app. Sandboxing and all bb10's security are helpless to prevent that.

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    Last edited by mnc76; 05-13-15 at 03:47 PM.
    05-13-15 03:28 PM
  17. asherN's Avatar
    What I have seen in real life 9-18 yo with android playing candy crush! BlackBerry is meant for business and no other smartphone can beat BlackBerry on productivity!!

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    Wow. Tools not to toys, right?

    There are millions upon millions of business Android users that would argue that point. All productive.
    05-13-15 04:02 PM
  18. Bravurag's Avatar
    LOL. I've been using BB10 and exclusively using it longer than you have, unless you were part of the UK launch buy.

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    Everybody is saying the same on CB! Who knows?

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    05-13-15 04:20 PM
  19. TgeekB's Avatar
    Holy crap this thread is hilarious!

    Be classically hip with the BlackBerry Classic
    05-13-15 04:32 PM
  20. GadgetTravel's Avatar
    Still presidents and diplomats prefer BlackBerry! Isn't it?

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    That isn't a big enough market (even if it were true).
    05-13-15 04:39 PM
  21. GadgetTravel's Avatar
    Wow. Tools not to toys, right?

    There are millions upon millions of business Android users that would argue that point. All productive.
    And iOS users. I ride the train between NY and Boston or DC, usually in first class. That is mostly a business crowd and I see almost all android or iphone. In fact earlier this year I did see a BB, but a Bold. BB has like 0.5% of the US market. That isn't "the business segment" and the other 99.5% of users are not business users.
    05-13-15 04:44 PM
  22. Bravurag's Avatar
    And iOS users. I ride the train between NY and Boston or DC, usually in first class. That is mostly a business crowd and I see almost all android or iphone. In fact earlier this year I did see a BB, but a Bold. BB has like 0.5% of the US market. That isn't "the business segment" and the other 99.5% of users are not business users.
    Until IOS5 you didn't see IOS users with chargers? What a hypocrisy when we talk about IOS and don't talk about chargers

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    05-13-15 04:55 PM
  23. GadgetTravel's Avatar
    Until IOS5 you didn't see IOS users with chargers? What a hypocrisy when we talk about IOS and don't talk about chargers

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    Okay. I have no idea what you are talking about. And I'm really okay with a that I think.
    05-13-15 04:58 PM
  24. Bravurag's Avatar
    That isn't a big enough market (even if it were true).
    If I need to follow the Herd I can easily buy Android and actually I bought, but couldn't last six months. I feel satisfied when I use BlackBerry! In real world 99% are followers..rest are leaders!

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    05-13-15 04:59 PM
  25. twiggyrj's Avatar
    If I need to follow the Herd I can easily buy Android and actually I bought, but couldn't last six months. I feel satisfied when I use BlackBerry! In real world 99% are followers..rest are leaders!

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    That's not true, to be leader you have to use something different? Rubbish. Everyone uses what they prefer and what's best for them... Simples!
    05-13-15 05:04 PM
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