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  1. ginobb's Avatar
    Tonight on the orielly factor, the topic was related to privacy and Apple. This is in regards to the recent investigation into the San Bernardino terror attack. The FBI wants access to the iPhone used by the terrosists but apple is pushing back. One if the guests Monica Crowley said she carries a blackberry because she values privacy (she also mentioned president and the kardasians) the host filling in for OReilly also broke out his iPhone and BlackBerry Classic. Nice to see BlackBerry spun in a positive way once in a while.

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    02-17-16 10:23 PM
  2. anon(9710735)'s Avatar
    Nice.

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    02-17-16 10:25 PM
  3. PantherBlitz's Avatar
    I saw it too... nice impromptu plug during an Apple story. Unfortunately, BlackBerry never seems to be able to sell privacy.
    02-17-16 11:01 PM
  4. mnc76's Avatar
    Good stuff. BlackBerry had strong security and privacy for years before Apple finally decided it was important. Now Apple is playing the media as if they invented privacy.
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    02-18-16 02:15 AM
  5. donnation's Avatar
    Good stuff. BlackBerry had strong security and privacy for years before Apple finally decided it was important. Now Apple is playing the media as if they invented privacy.
    Oh, did BlackBerry invent it?
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    02-18-16 03:33 AM
  6. Draven2666's Avatar
    Oh, did BlackBerry invent it?
    Oh no, not at all. If you listen apple created everything.

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    02-18-16 04:01 AM
  7. gruv4u's Avatar
    Oh, did BlackBerry invent it?
    Don't be silly. They improved on it. Just like everyone else improved on the smartphone. However, BlackBerry invented that.

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    02-18-16 04:03 AM
  8. donnation's Avatar
    Don't be silly. They improved on it. Just like everyone else improved on the smartphone. However, BlackBerry invented that.

     Z10 STL 100-3 with vitamin (SR) 10.3.2.2836 (OS version 10.3.2.2876) on AT&T
    Now don't you be silly. You don't honestly think that BlackBerry invented the smartphone do you? Let me help you, they didn't.
    02-18-16 04:05 AM
  9. donnation's Avatar
    Good stuff. BlackBerry had strong security and privacy for years before Apple finally decided it was important. Now Apple is playing the media as if they invented privacy.
    They are playing the media how? Please elaborate. How on earth do you possibly see this as "playing the media."
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    02-18-16 05:33 AM
  10. MikeX74's Avatar
    They are playing the media how? Please elaborate. How on earth do you possibly see this as "playing the media."
    They're not. "Playing the media" suggests a direct and purposeful manipulation of the situation, which I don't see at all. I think that if Cook and co. had their way, they'd be as far away from this case and the debate between privacy and national security as they could. The thing is, this does give Apple a certain credibility, if you will, as far as valuing privacy and security. The narrative now is that they made a phone so secure that the government not only couldn't break into it, but that the government had to go as far as getting a court order to have Apple unlock it. They may not be "playing" the media, but the attention surrounding this case has helped them...to a degree.
    02-18-16 07:46 AM
  11. ChainPunch's Avatar
    Apple is being wise with how they framing the topic because if Apple provide a tool to the government or develop one in house, it only take one person to leak the code or the program itself and then no iphone would be secure even those in the usa government.

    From my understanding the phone in question might be corporate phone and if so why did the company have a mobile management system in place.

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    02-18-16 08:00 AM
  12. lactose's Avatar
    If someone could afford to set up their own BES, then their Blackberry would be more secure than the average phone. Correct ?
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    02-18-16 09:23 AM
  13. TgeekB's Avatar
    They are playing the media how? Please elaborate. How on earth do you possibly see this as "playing the media."
    Because they're successful. So to some, they must be.
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    02-18-16 11:04 AM
  14. FCSC's Avatar
    Now don't you be silly. You don't honestly think that BlackBerry invented the smartphone do you? Let me help you, they didn't.
    Neither did apple, didn't stop them from saying they did in the letter though.

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    02-18-16 12:01 PM
  15. donnation's Avatar
    Neither did apple, didn't stop them from saying they did in the letter though.

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    They claimed they invented the smartphone? Source?
    02-18-16 12:02 PM
  16. P2 SK's Avatar
    They claimed they invented the smartphone? Source?
    According to Google:
    https://www.google.ca/url?q=http://w...3nULypnkpkF-dQ

    It's IBM who made the first smartphone. Inneresting

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    02-18-16 12:10 PM
  17. MikeX74's Avatar
    Neither did apple, didn't stop them from saying they did in the letter though.

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    Please show us the line and paragraph where Cook claimed that Apple invented the smartphone.
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    02-18-16 12:20 PM
  18. FCSC's Avatar
    "Smartphones, led by iPhone"

    They purposely stated it like that so most readers would infer they invented it /were the main / innovators / are the only ones improving on smartphones.

    It's a marketing statement, just like the entire letter is.



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    02-18-16 12:29 PM
  19. MikeX74's Avatar
    "Smartphones, led by iPhone"

    They purposely stated it like that so most readers would infer they invented it /were the main / innovators / are the only ones improving on smartphones.

    It's a marketing statement, just like the entire letter is.



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    Which is it? Earlier you said that Apple claimed they invented smartphones in Cook's letter, and anyone with decent reading comprehension knows that he didn't make any such claim. Now you're claiming that the letter was written in such a way so that people would infer that they invented it? Pick an argument.
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    02-18-16 12:45 PM
  20. donnation's Avatar
    "Smartphones, led by iPhone"

    They purposely stated it like that so most readers would infer they invented it /were the main / innovators / are the only ones improving on smartphones.

    It's a marketing statement, just like the entire letter is.



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    It doesn't infer or state anywhere that Apple claims they invented the Smartphone and they have never claimed that. Please come back next time with something of substance, not nonsense.
    02-18-16 12:48 PM
  21. FCSC's Avatar
    Whatever guys, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest. It was a marketing statement through and through. The sentence and that letter in general.

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    02-18-16 01:23 PM
  22. FCSC's Avatar
    Which is it? Earlier you said that Apple claimed they invented smartphones in Cook's letter, and anyone with decent reading comprehension knows that he didn't make any such claim. Now you're claiming that the letter was written in such a way so that people would infer that they invented it? Pick an argument.
    "Anyone with decent reading comprehension"... so going off that, most of the US doesn't have descent reading comprehension since they think mp3 players and smartphones were started with the iPod and iPhone.

    Have a nice day gents, enjoy your circle jerk.

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    02-18-16 01:25 PM
  23. donnation's Avatar
    Whatever guys, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest. It was a marketing statement through and through. The sentence and that letter in general.

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    Thank you for laying out the facts. It's obvious that Apple should have stated in their own letter: "Smartphones, led by BlackBerry..." when discussing this topic. That would make people understand that Apple didn't invent the smartphone (because that was their obvious intention) and that even though it is a letter from Apple, about Apple, they should reference competitors smartphones as leading the way as well. Makes perfect sense.
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    02-18-16 02:06 PM
  24. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Oh no, not at all. If you listen apple created everything.

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    "In the beginning Jobs..."

    Or was it God...? ;-P

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    02-18-16 02:49 PM
  25. anon(2313227)'s Avatar


    around 9 minutes and for the specifics of what OP said it is 12:15 or so.
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    02-18-16 03:44 PM
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