BlackBerry mulls one last in-house designed handset
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This is why Apple makes so few devices, and even then, they're mostly the same. It keeps their userbase from being fragmented.10-05-16 09:49 AMLike 6 - The sooner you stop selling hardware, the sooner you will be able to get rid of all hardware support infrastructure. We're talking about entire departments than handle supplier relationships, carrier relationships, wholesaler relationships, retail relationships, marketing, technical support, regional licensing. It's an incredible amount of infrastructure that he's trying to wind down when you think of all the countries that Blackberry still sells devices in. One last device would just extend those costs for that much longer..10-05-16 09:58 AMLike 0
- That's the thing: BB doesn't have a "core userbase" device-wise. BB's userbase is divided into about 5-6 different groups, all of whom want different things, and all of whom believe they're the "core userbase". Some want a flagship all-touch, some want an affordable all-touch, some want a slider, some want a PKB, etc. etc. And BB, in trying to satisfy those different factions, put itself in a position were none of its devices would ever satisfy even a large portion of their own userbase.
This is why Apple makes so few devices, and even then, they're mostly the same. It keeps their userbase from being fragmented.
Now, most markets are where the US was seven years ago... and BlackBerry isn't offering what matters to those users anymore. I doubt the form factor really mattered all that much to begin with.10-05-16 10:04 AMLike 0 - The sooner you stop selling hardware, the sooner you will be able to get rid of all hardware support infrastructure. We're talking about entire departments than handle supplier relationships, carrier relationships, wholesaler relationships, retail relationships, marketing, technical support, regional licensing. It's an incredible amount of infrastructure that he's trying to wind down when you think of all the countries that Blackberry still sells devices in. One last device would just extend those costs for that much longer..10-05-16 10:09 AMLike 0
- and often it was actually their parents - a cheap curve become the goto device to buy for children because here in the UK you could buy �5 a month for unlimited data.Dunt Dunt Dunt likes this.10-05-16 01:46 PMLike 1
- Don't mull as long as Chen will over releasing the Mercury... the bread will go stale.Dunt Dunt Dunt likes this.10-05-16 02:07 PMLike 1
- No offense but you say that as if BlackBerry is the first Corporation that obfuscated when it came to the consumer. Not sure why people are so surprised at this to be honest. How's Apple doing lately on the whole Bend Gate / Touch Screen controversy, for example?
Anyone who thinks a for profit corporation is going to put the truth before profits is naive, imho.
1. Maybe that's what's wrong with a lot of business these days
2. As a customer of one of these business I have the right to complain about their practices AND I DO and will continue to as long as I feel the need. You may make excuses for their poor practices but this just leads to more of the same.10-05-16 07:02 PMLike 0 - I can't disagree with most of what you said but....
1. Maybe that's what's wrong with a lot of business these days
2. As a customer of one of these business I have the right to complain about their practices AND I DO and will continue to as long as I feel the need. You may make excuses for their poor practices but this just leads to more of the same.
If class action lawsuits and state regulatory agency investigations don't work, I don't see it getting any better. Sad but true, imho.10-06-16 10:18 AMLike 0 - Yeah it would seem they are done... still wonder how quickly they will be clearancing existing inventory.
Licensing, Licensing, Licensing.... "better be"10-25-16 02:38 PMLike 3 - Didn't they already state devices that come from any licence partner ( assuming they get some) will be available through shop BlackBerry?10-25-16 05:26 PMLike 0
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Being involved in distribution costs money, and when you can't turn a profit, that's a big problem, which is why BB is getting out of it in the first place. Trying to sell those devices on their own web store means they'd have to continue to pay for a lot of the servicing (both distribution and repair/warranty) that they're trying to leave behind.10-25-16 06:04 PMLike 2 - No. Chen said that they reserve the right to distribute themselves any BB-branded device that their partners produce - BUT that they almost certainly won't actually do so, because they're getting out of that business entirely. Plus, there wouldn't be a lot of money in importing devices from the countries that are likely to produce them, given that they'll be low-end devices intended for domestic markets (such as Indonesia) rather than the global market.
Being involved in distribution costs money, and when you can't turn a profit, that's a big problem, which is why BB is getting out of it in the first place. Trying to sell those devices on their own web store means they'd have to continue to pay for a lot of the servicing (both distribution and repair/warranty) that they're trying to leave behind.
The below was tweeted the day after Chen spoke at earnings call. Listen I realize you want devices to never be available again so your bold proclamation will be correct, even though it was the Z30 you proclaimed as the last BlackBerry device ever.10-25-16 06:47 PMLike 0 -
I'm assuming the # of pkb BB diehards > # of vkb BB diehards.10-25-16 07:21 PMLike 0 - When did he say that because Thurber and Pini have said otherwise? Or is this your assessment based on nothing? Anyways, even if he did say it, anything Chen says is completely off message and requires weeks of follow up interviews and tweets to do damage control.
The below was tweeted the day after Chen spoke at earnings call. Listen I realize you want devices to never be available again so your bold proclamation will be correct, even though it was the Z30 you proclaimed as the last BlackBerry device ever.
1) When asked yesterday in the DTEK60 launch if it was the last Blackberry phone, they stated clearly it was the last one to be 'made and distributed by them' (around the 16:00 mark)
2) There is currently only one partner making devices in one market, this is what Chen had to say about that company:
The JV is actually an Indonesian entity, developed and put together by them, specifically focused on BlackBerry and distributing BlackBerry handset in Indonesia. All we did was we licensed this JV our brand and the - and all the software. So that�s number one. Before I move on that that�s clear, right, I mean, okay. So therefore it�s definitely above the line not below the line because we are no partner to JV.
3) He also said:
So with what I announced today, we will end that activity and rely completely on partners. So working with partners, relying is too strong a word, and working with them to make sure their hardware portfolio is up to spec and competitive, is of course reduce a lot of expenses, not only on operating expenses, but capital that we talk about, we don't have inventory we need to carry anymore.
How much clearer do they need to be?Last edited by cgk; 10-26-16 at 02:30 AM.
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