1. zsarasa's Avatar
    Okay so before anyone tries to rip on me and call me a "isheep" or "android fanboy," I currently use a z10 and have used a blackberry and only a blackberry for the last 6 years. I am currently a third year business university student and take public transit so I get to see a lot of peoples phone preferences daily. I just want to bring up the point of why I feel like BlackBerry is reverting to its old ways.......well maybe not totally, but enough to make me wonder.

    When the z10 first came out I was in love with it; not to say that I'm still not but the love has definitely died down. I remember buying it out right the first day it came out in Canada and showing it off to all my friends. Everyone I showed was so impressed with it I definitely thought I won BlackBerry some new customers. Over the past year and however many months, the phones excitement level and the whole BlackBerry product lineups excitement level has dropped. My brother has a Q10 so I have got to play around with it many times and other than the QWERTY keyboard (which is a big deal breaker for some, I know), there isn't much else to it. In BB10, I can show off peek, flow, hub and than after that I have nothing. BBM is now cross platform so there goes that reasoning of owning a BlackBerry and many of the other functionalities are prevalent in other smartphones.

    I recently took a trip to the US and had to use my moms Samsung S4 (I tried convincing her to go BB, she didn't budge) since it was unlocked unlike my z10. I thought I would hate it and hate the idea of the home button, which at first did seem a bit awkward....But I actually enjoyed using the phone. It was actually a really good phone and with the huge selection of apps I cant say I really missed my z10 that much. Now I read a lot around here how BlackBerry is for people who get things done and how they don't need snapchat or instagram (which I both have sideloaded and installed on my z10 AND use daily), but I cant say I agree with them. BlackBerrys were most common in the business environment and that was their stronghold, but just look at how much market share they have lost and the increase in BYOD. As a business student, I understand the concept of having a smartphone of getting things done and I would always agree that BlackBerry was the way to go. However, in the past year or so, and especially with the release of iOS7,Samsung Galaxy S5, and HTC One M8, I cant say that with confidence anymore. These phones do pretty much what BlackBerry 10 does with a wider selection of apps.

    We've seen the updates rolled out to BlackBerry 10 and although they have improved the OS significantly since launch, there isn't much in terms of "newness" for lack of better terms. I mean we were so excited (myself included) about getting instant previews, but that is already standard in other OS's as well as the ability to download android apk's directly to our phone, other OS's have a native app experience. In contrast, we look at these android phones launching with heart rate monitors and finger print scanners and advanced processors, while they may be useless in the grand scheme of things, they at least show some sort of innovation. The Z30 launched being basically the same thing as the z10 with a bigger but less resolution screen. Combine that with a lack of marketing, where not that many people even know the z30 exists, why would anyone get one?

    I don't mean to be so negative but after being around iOS 7 for so long and seeing many of my friends upgrade to the new HTC or Samsung phones in the last week or so, it really got me wondering about what BlackBerry has that it can sell to customers over these alternatives. These alternatives have a slew of new features such as the camera features, blink feed, touchwiz, etc and in BB10 our next update may change the main accent color to red.....

    Sorry for the long post but really hope to see what you guys think.
    (PS. I am referring to both hardware AND software for innovation)
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    04-17-14 02:39 AM
  2. Omnitech's Avatar
    lol trollthread #74,329
    04-17-14 03:10 AM
  3. keypad's Avatar
    Thanks for the post.

    Im gonna keep this short, if Blackberry want some positive headlines in the tech news, they should consider:

    HARDWARE

    16mp auto focus camera

    3000 + mah battery

    1080p screen

    Secure finger print scanner (ala non Samsung)

    And the keyboard swip tech they may be introducing on the Q30.


    SOFTWARE

    Anything creative, i.e photo editing, music production, video production ect

    Support all major wireless screen share technologies

    Licence Google Play store direct download s

    Flatten and brighten up the UI

    Full landscape mode throughout the OS

    BBM Money (a type of BlackBerry Bank account & money transfer service, and hey, throw in a BlackBerry Bitcoin like digital currency)



    Said to much already, so this is where I stop and go take a nap.





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    04-17-14 03:10 AM
  4. Raestloz's Avatar
    I do not see how those are "innovations". They may have a use, but so are every single thing in universe. If anything, you can always throw it to the robber threatening you with a knife.

    Like Samsung's "swipe without touching". It's useful when your hands do not function properly or when they're busy, but you can't give someone with non-functioning hands a Samsung Galaxy S4 because the device freaking depends on touch input, that's why it's a full-touch phone, unless maybe there's an app for that, IDK, but at that point one would assume An Android is still not the best choice, as Android's main concern is entertainment, and you can't play Candy Crush Saga or whatever without functioning hands

    They're gimmicks. They cram things to reduce the number of things you need to buy, but the sum of those are not greater than all of those combined

    Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.2102
    silversmith75 likes this.
    04-17-14 03:18 AM
  5. Jerale's Avatar
    Thanks for the post.

    Im gonna keep this short, if Blackberry want some positive headlines in the tech news, they should consider:

    HARDWARE

    16mp auto focus camera

    3000 + mah battery

    1080p screen

    Secure finger print scanner (ala non Samsung)

    And the keyboard swip tech they may be introducing on the Q30.


    SOFTWARE

    Anything creative, i.e photo editing, music production, video production ect

    Support all major wireless screen share technologies

    Licence Google Play store direct download s

    Flatten and brighten up the UI

    Full landscape mode throughout the OS

    BBM Money (a type of BlackBerry Bank account & money transfer service, and hey, throw in a BlackBerry Bitcoin like digital currency)



    Said to much already, so this is where I stop and go take a nap.





    Posted via CB10
    One thing that will never happen with BlackBerry is licensing Google.

    Powered by my BlackBerry (Z10). Join my #BBM Channels C001227CF, C00476C37, C003829C9, C002454C9,C002190AC, C00120CE3
    04-17-14 04:11 AM
  6. Jerale's Avatar
    Okay so before anyone tries to rip on me and call me a "isheep" or "android fanboy," I currently use a z10 and have used a blackberry and only a blackberry for the last 6 years. I am currently a third year business university student and take public transit so I get to see a lot of peoples phone preferences daily. I just want to bring up the point of why I feel like BlackBerry is reverting to its old ways.......well maybe not totally, but enough to make me wonder.

    When the z10 first came out I was in love with it; not to say that I'm still not but the love has definitely died down. I remember buying it out right the first day it came out in Canada and showing it off to all my friends. Everyone I showed was so impressed with it I definitely thought I won BlackBerry some new customers. Over the past year and however many months, the phones excitement level and the whole BlackBerry product lineups excitement level has dropped. My brother has a Q10 so I have got to play around with it many times and other than the QWERTY keyboard (which is a big deal breaker for some, I know), there isn't much else to it. In BB10, I can show off peek, flow, hub and than after that I have nothing. BBM is now cross platform so there goes that reasoning of owning a BlackBerry and many of the other functionalities are prevalent in other smartphones.

    I recently took a trip to the US and had to use my moms Samsung S4 (I tried convincing her to go BB, she didn't budge) since it was unlocked unlike my z10. I thought I would hate it and hate the idea of the home button, which at first did seem a bit awkward....But I actually enjoyed using the phone. It was actually a really good phone and with the huge selection of apps I cant say I really missed my z10 that much. Now I read a lot around here how BlackBerry is for people who get things done and how they don't need snapchat or instagram (which I both have sideloaded and installed on my z10 AND use daily), but I cant say I agree with them. BlackBerrys were most common in the business environment and that was their stronghold, but just look at how much market share they have lost and the increase in BYOD. As a business student, I understand the concept of having a smartphone of getting things done and I would always agree that BlackBerry was the way to go. However, in the past year or so, and especially with the release of iOS7,Samsung Galaxy S5, and HTC One M8, I cant say that with confidence anymore. These phones do pretty much what BlackBerry 10 does with a wider selection of apps.

    We've seen the updates rolled out to BlackBerry 10 and although they have improved the OS significantly since launch, there isn't much in terms of "newness" for lack of better terms. I mean we were so excited (myself included) about getting instant previews, but that is already standard in other OS's as well as the ability to download android apk's directly to our phone, other OS's have a native app experience. In contrast, we look at these android phones launching with heart rate monitors and finger print scanners and advanced processors, while they may be useless in the grand scheme of things, they at least show some sort of innovation. The Z30 launched being basically the same thing as the z10 with a bigger but less resolution screen. Combine that with a lack of marketing, where not that many people even know the z30 exists, why would anyone get one?

    I don't mean to be so negative but after being around iOS 7 for so long and seeing many of my friends upgrade to the new HTC or Samsung phones in the last week or so, it really got me wondering about what BlackBerry has that it can sell to customers over these alternatives. These alternatives have a slew of new features such as the camera features, blink feed, touchwiz, etc and in BB10 our next update may change the main accent color to red.....

    Sorry for the long post but really hope to see what you guys think.
    (PS. I am referring to both hardware AND software for innovation)
    One of BlackBerry's innovations are the things they have done with QNX. Having QNX in phones to show how you don't need all those processing power to have a smoother OS or browser, M2M connections with cars, and whatever else they consider doing with QNX. This seems to be more than what the competition is currently doing. Fingerprint scanning is something BlackBerry patented way before Apple or any Android device (BlackBerry's Fingerprint Scanner) and we may see it turns up in future iterations of BB10. It turns out Microsoft is out innovating the competition which I also believe BlackBerry is also doing. I'm wondering how BlackBerry will be innovative with the device they'll release for medical facilities and hospitals. When it comes to innovation it seems BlackBerry is the leader of innovation seeing how they patented most of the tech in Android and I found no proof of patents from Google nor Android. I believe it was Eric Schmidt who said patents weren't needed. Anyways innovation doesn't always mean faster processoring power, fancy scanners, or medical monitors. If anything those are revolutionary, not innovation. Innovation is what BlackBerry is bringing to the market to make the world a better place and that wouldn't be possible without the acquisition of QNX.

    Powered by my BlackBerry (Z10). Join my #BBM Channels C001227CF, C00476C37, C003829C9, C002454C9,C002190AC, C00120CE3
    zsarasa likes this.
    04-17-14 04:29 AM

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