BlackBerry to exit hardware business
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The Blackberry developers who have worked on BES over the years, and are now integrating Good Dynamics into that framework, would take issue with your statement the Blackberry has developed nothing.
I would also note, that the acquisition of Good was a stroke of brilliant negotiation and foresight. That didn't happen by itself. The Mobility Management space is now a two-horse race, blackberry and Airwatch.10-05-16 08:39 AMLike 0 - I dont think anyone is saying he created anything except the opportunity for Blackberry to survive in some way.
The old administration was the one that caused the issues.
Chen saved the company but at steep costs
The alternative would have been no more Blackbery at all if it had carried on the way it was
Thats the bottom line
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10-05-16 08:41 AMLike 0 - The BIS revenue stream has no equivalent with modern smartphones. This is why they had to double down with Enterprise Mobility management.
The Blackberry developers who have worked on BES over the years, and are now integrating Good Dynamics into that framework, would take issue with your statement the Blackberry has developed nothing.
I would also note, that the acquisition of Good was a stroke of brilliant negotiation and foresight. That didn't happen by itself. The Mobility Management space is now a two-horse race, blackberry and Airwatch.
Posted via CB1010-05-16 08:43 AMLike 0 - The BIS revenue stream has no equivalent with modern smartphones. This is why they had to double down with Enterprise Mobility management.
The Blackberry developers who have worked on BES over the years, and are now integrating Good Dynamics into that framework, would take issue with your statement the Blackberry has developed nothing.
I would also note, that the acquisition of Good was a stroke of brilliant negotiation and foresight. That didn't happen by itself. The Mobility Management space is now a two-horse race, blackberry and Airwatch.
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- CHEN has done NOTHING for BlackBerry. Read the last Financials, REMOVE the earnings from the revenues obtained, by according to you, foresight and genius of acquisitions under Chen. See what you find. And no don't include the losses from hardware. Focus on the true picture of what BlackBerry has come to. Without the captive clientele of Good 's acquisition how much did Chen build BlackBerry by??
Posted via CB1010-05-16 08:53 AMLike 0 - CHEN has done NOTHING for BlackBerry. Read the last Financials, REMOVE the earnings from the revenues obtained, by according to you, foresight and genius of acquisitions under Chen. See what you find. And no don't include the losses from hardware. Focus on the true picture of what BlackBerry has come to. Without the captive clientele of Good 's acquisition how much did Chen build BlackBerry by??
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10-05-16 09:17 AMLike 2 - CHEN has done NOTHING for BlackBerry. Read the last Financials, REMOVE the earnings from the revenues obtained, by according to you, foresight and genius of acquisitions under Chen. See what you find. And no don't include the losses from hardware. Focus on the true picture of what BlackBerry has come to. Without the captive clientele of Good 's acquisition how much did Chen build BlackBerry by??
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Setting objectives, and getting there in the most cost effective way, is part of good leadership.
Putting together a portfolio of security offerings like BES/Good, SecureSmart, AtHoc, radar tracking, IoT, QNX Auto, etc IS building.Last edited by conite; 10-05-16 at 09:28 AM.
anon(9353145) and StephanieMaks like this.10-05-16 09:17 AMLike 2 - Why is building a company via acquisition and integration not a viable strategy? If you don't have the in-house ability, or sufficient time to develop it, you buy it. As the company pivots, the workforce needs to pivot too.
Setting objectives, and getting there in the most cost effective way, is part of good leadership.
Putting together a portfolio of security offerings like BES/Good, SecureSmart, AtHoc, radar tracking, IoT, QNX Auto, etc IS building.10-05-16 09:47 AMLike 0 -
- You seem upset. I do think Chen is a bit overrated myself. Actually he is probably one of the reasons devices don't sell. Everyone he speaks, he sends the wrong messages which leads to media proclaiming everything dead then BlackBerry and him have to spend a couple of weeks doing interviews and tweeting so he can explain what he really meant. He should never be allowed to speak publicly ever. It's the same song and dance every single time.
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They've build many capabilities in new segments and all the capabilities they've acquired from the new acquisitions were aligned perfectly with BlackBerry's already existing capabilities. It's an important strategic move to acquire things you're missing from the market through actions similar to what they've done.
Look how Microsoft fluffed $7Bil+ on Nokia and what he has done with the little money had. Ha and Satya Nadella still gets to stay. Imagine if you gave Chen the same kind of firepower & resources. I give Chen 10/10 in everything he has done in this regard, absolutely a job well done.anon(3641385) likes this.10-05-16 10:04 AMLike 1 - You seem upset. I do think Chen is a bit overrated myself. Actually he is probably one of the reasons devices don't sell. Everyone he speaks, he sends the wrong messages which leads to media proclaiming everything dead then BlackBerry and him have to spend a couple of weeks doing interviews and tweeting so he can explain what he really meant. He should never be allowed to speak publicly ever. It's the same song and dance every single time.
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Chen, apart from the mixed messages has stripped BlackBerry of everything that made BlackBerry. Conite the previous poster speaks of the remaining employees being offended by my comments but what I want to say is what remaining employees?? The cleaner?? All the talent at BlackBerry has gone . Chen stripped BlackBerry of its core competences and is now just a composite MDM provider.
Chen was a mistake bottom line he was and is not a good fit for once was a leader in Technology and Innovation. What is left is a shell of its former self, all the spins made here on Hi behalf is a waste of time.
Posted via CB1010-05-16 10:12 AMLike 0 - Chen used the company's resources in the most strategic way possible. His acquisitions were all very important and ended up being a success (with a few still pending to reach their prime). The acquisition of Good was even more important as they were viewed as a competitor and for $425 Mil, they're a steal. All the acquisitions have solidified BlackBerry's competitive position. And even after all these acquisitions they still have a lot of money in cash for a company in their size.
They've build many capabilities in new segments and all the capabilities they've acquired from the new acquisitions were aligned perfectly with BlackBerry's already existing capabilities. It's an important strategic move to acquire things you're missing from the market through actions similar to what they've done.
Look how Microsoft fluffed $7Bil+ on Nokia and what he has done with the little money had. Ha and Satya Nadella still gets to stay. Imagine if you gave Chen the same kind of firepower & resources. I give Chen 10/10 in everything he has done in this regard, absolutely a job well done.10-05-16 10:14 AMLike 0 - Why is building a company via acquisition and integration not a viable strategy? If you don't have the in-house ability, or sufficient time to develop it, you buy it. As the company pivots, the workforce needs to pivot too.
Setting objectives, and getting there in the most cost effective way, is part of good leadership.
Putting together a portfolio of security offerings like BES/Good, SecureSmart, AtHoc, radar tracking, IoT, QNX Auto, etc IS building.
All the building you speak of isn't BUILDING, it's putting lip stick on a pig and saying how beautiful. ( no offense to pigs!)
Posted via CB1010-05-16 10:16 AMLike 0 - Yeah so lets not expect them to understand and applaud. A BlackBerry fan would be very disappointed in terms of what happened to the hardware because that's what he identifies BB with. In turn this would get the fan to dislike Chen immensely, also understandable. I would personally blast him for pages in terms of how he performed in hardware but to say he hasn't done well in everything else is simply nonsense.TgeekB and anon(3641385) like this.10-05-16 10:16 AMLike 2
- Apart from the worst PR right? If he was to shutdown hardware he should have done it after the passport. He spent all the resources for the android then did none marketing. What did he expect? This was over when he said the Priv runs Google. By looking at the latest CEOs of big companies, Chen is an accountant. Could be a good CFO or auditer. But he has no vision.
I'm as pissed as you're, even more in terms of what happened with the hardware. But if the company survives then well done to him. It was quite the tough job.10-05-16 10:19 AMLike 0 -
I would not call this accomplishment "putting lipstick on a pig". I would say that this is certainly building upon a core competence.anon(3641385) likes this.10-05-16 10:26 AMLike 1 - BES/Good was the culmination of much internal development, acquisition, and integration. It is now rated the top EMM platform in the world.
I would not call this accomplishment "putting lipstick on a pig". I would say that this is certainly building upon a core competence.
Posted via CB1010-05-16 10:33 AMLike 0 - Did I talk about Hardware now? Did I? No. See my post up there where I say my opinion about him in hardware. Actually see my thread in which I did nothing but blast him in hardware: http://forums.crackberry.com/general...-secs-1087369/
I'm as pissed as you're, even more in terms of what happened with the hardware. But if the company survives then well done to him. It was quite the tough job.
By the way Sony's handset division was bleeding bad too. They broke even this year. Don't say the sell camera sensors because that is another division not in the handsets.10-05-16 10:34 AMLike 0 - I'm not against the acquisition. just don't paint it as Chen's "accomplishment" or building competences. It's NOT. How many of the Good Technology clients would have switched to BlackBerry on their own volition?? He as CEO has accomplished or achieved NOTHING. What he has sewn is distrust and discontent.
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Chen scooped it up at a firesale price under the noses of his competitors.10-05-16 10:53 AMLike 2 -
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