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Posted via CB1004-20-16 05:07 AMLike 3 - I don't think it bodes well for "flagship" phones in general. I get the same impression that, as the smartphone market has matured, people are simply getting less excited by "the next big thing," to use Samsung's marketing phrase. They pretty much know what they want to do with a phone, be it Facebook, Uber, Netflix, navigation, or whatever. If they can get one for $300-500 that does all that stuff well--and there are indeed very good phones in that range--they don't need to pay a premium of several hundred dollars more to get the ultimate phone.
I'm still chugging along on my OnePlus One. Although I've only had it since January 2015, the phone itself was released two years ago, for $350 (65 GB model). The thing still works great, and has outstanding battery life. I enjoy new toys as much as the next person, but it's hard for me to persuade myself that I need to buy a new phone at all anytime soon. And when I do, it's going to be even harder for me to persuade myself to spend $700 or more, for any phone.04-20-16 06:06 AMLike 0 - The reality is all the big players in the smartphone arena don't want BlackBerry to make a comeback.
I mean just look, most of all the big apps refused to make an app for the blackberry phones even when BlackBerry offered to pay them to make it.
Some like snap chat and many others even simply refused to let them have access to the api
That's just part of it, it's like all the big players had a meeting and said let's do everything we can to stop BlackBerry.
But it also doesn't help that the people at BlackBerry seem to have this idea that "real businesses people " only want a phone for email and phone calls only
Just because someone wears a suit or owns a business doesn't mean that when they have some down time that your not going to want to play your wife a few moves of words with friends
Or get on Facebook to see what's going on.
Then they make an expensive android phone that's huge with the worst physical keyboard ever on a blackberry with horrible build quality and software issues right out of the box
There done in the phone arena until they get someone in that has a clue
Posted via CB1004-20-16 07:27 AMLike 0 - The reality is all the big players in the smartphone arena don't want BlackBerry to make a comeback.
I mean just look, most of all the big apps refused to make an app for the blackberry phones even when BlackBerry offered to pay them to make it.
Some like snap chat and many others even simply refused to let them have access to the api
That's just part of it, it's like all the big players had a meeting and said let's do everything we can to stop BlackBerry.
There is no conspiracy. Just market reality.04-20-16 07:32 AMLike 6 - I personally think that Blackberry's chance at making a major comeback in this current market is gone and has been gone for a while now. They could still be a niche player though.
Just look at the USA, here I see all my business clients using Android and/or iPhones and they are not missing a beat as far as being productive or on the device security end.
I haven't heard any of them complain about end to end security on their corporate devices. These are major automotive suppliers and the IT folks who work for the big three themselves.
The iPhone and Android devices are firmly embedded into the consumer and business culture here and the apps they use to get things done are the standard by which any new device that comes to the market will be judged.
I have been a loyal Blackberry user from the early days, but I have seen how the once iconic brand has been pushed aside and mostly forgotten here.
I now have a Blackberry android device and a iPhone 6s I use for my daily drivers and as much as I once loved OS10 and all it's great features. I now have found that I am just as productive with my Priv and iPhone.
This is not being negative or any of that BS, this is reality in 2016 and at this point in time, I feel Blackberry's only chance at saving what little market share they have is by making secured Android devices, period.
I have always spoke from my gut and I don't sugar coat stuff. I say if this is the direction that the company must take to satisfy their enterprise clients and ensure the hardware divisions survival, then so be it.
I for one will embrace it and be the first in line to buy the new Android based Blackberry devices as long as they have value added pricing. Just my two cents.04-20-16 03:53 PMLike 4 - I personally think that Blackberry's chance at making a major comeback in this current market is gone and has been gone for a while now. They could still be a niche player though.
Just look at the USA, here I see all my business clients using Android and/or iPhones and they are not missing a beat as far as being productive or on the device security end.
I haven't heard any of them complain about end to end security on their corporate devices. These are major automotive suppliers and the IT folks who work for the big three themselves.
The iPhone and Android devices are firmly embedded into the consumer and business culture here and the apps they use to get things done are the standard by which any new device that comes to the market will be judged.
I have been a loyal Blackberry user from the early days, but I have seen how the once iconic brand has been pushed aside and mostly forgotten here.
I now have a Blackberry android device and a iPhone 6s I use for my daily drivers and as much as I once loved OS10 and all it's great features. I now have found that I am just as productive with my Priv and iPhone.
This is not being negative or any of that BS, this is reality in 2016 and at this point in time, I feel Blackberry's only chance at saving what little market share they have is by making secured Android devices, period.
I have always spoke from my gut and I don't sugar coat stuff. I say if this is the direction that the company must take to satisfy their enterprise clients and ensure the hardware divisions survival, then so be it.
I for one will embrace it and be the first in line to buy the new Android based Blackberry devices as long as they have value added pricing. Just my two cents.04-20-16 04:00 PMLike 0 - The reality is all the big players in the smartphone arena don't want BlackBerry to make a comeback.
I mean just look, most of all the big apps refused to make an app for the blackberry phones even when BlackBerry offered to pay them to make it.
Some like snap chat and many others even simply refused to let them have access to the api
That's just part of it, it's like all the big players had a meeting and said let's do everything we can to stop BlackBerry.
But it also doesn't help that the people at BlackBerry seem to have this idea that "real businesses people " only want a phone for email and phone calls only
Just because someone wears a suit or owns a business doesn't mean that when they have some down time that your not going to want to play your wife a few moves of words with friends
Or get on Facebook to see what's going on.
Then they make an expensive android phone that's huge with the worst physical keyboard ever on a blackberry with horrible build quality and software issues right out of the box
There done in the phone arena until they get someone in that has a clue
Posted via CB1004-20-16 06:52 PMLike 5 - You know he does, and I'd wager that he's not the only one. It's absolutely unbelievable that some people think there's some conspiracy to keep BlackBerry down. The very idea is ludicrous. The truth is, BB is very capable of doing harm to itself.04-21-16 03:56 PMLike 4
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Posted via CB1004-24-16 11:14 PMLike 0 - I was reading somewhere that BlackBerry inability to produce mid range phones or any phones at the MWC was a sign that they moving away from handset production. (Sounds bad)
But what if they want to attract governments and institutions to trust their software first, Priv being just a way of showing how good they are even on Android, only for BlackBerry to bounce back when the time is right time when security trust is fully established by the masses?...
What BB needs is support. Support by gaining wider exposure.
And such exposure, without by sales of BB branded handsets with different hardware configurations.
Yes... some of you might have guessed it, OPEN SOURCE.
Yeah... I know it will be very hard for an established company like BB to go OPEN. However, i'm suggesting an alternate release of BBOS that's totally not linked to BB secure server. This open source O.S. allows interested folks to install the OS to their phones made by different makers with different hardware configurations with generic drivers to get their phones workable. All other installation of .apk software should be from Googles Play depository, with no native apps from BlackBerry Apps Store.
Such OS will have it's limit, but wouldn't disappoint users whom are trying out the OS for usability experience.
Then BB should consider to push out install-able, full package BBOS which is linkable to security server of BB to users of BB branded devices be it the PRIV or upcoming Android BB devices... by selling at an affordable price as if we had bought new versions of Windows OS in the past to install in our old, or updated devices. I believe the call for BBOS10 powered PRIV had been getting louder and louder ever since the release of the PRIV.shakingthrough likes this.04-25-16 03:36 AMLike 1 - Problem with going open source is that QNX is heavily used in other industries. To open BB10 you'd have to open QNX. My guess is there are hundreds of QNX customers out there that would be screwed, for a variety of legal reasons, if that happened.
Not to mention that people would inevitably find a few security holes somewhere in the code, and the press would have a field day with that.
C L A S S I C04-25-16 09:39 AMLike 0 - In that case, BB would notice that there's a security hole and put out a fix for it as opposed to the hole festering in the code base.04-25-16 12:21 PMLike 0
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However unlikely though, I would love to see BB10 open sourced.
C L A S S I C04-25-16 12:24 PMLike 0 -
- There will always be pros and cons if BBOS is going public by OPEN SOURCE.
But... to pull the plug from getting into the CONs part, the open source BBOS needs not, and must not be connectable to BB's Security Server. This is one way i can think of to avoid "devilish" user who're using the open sourced BBOS from causing havoc to the long earned reputation of being the best secure operating system platform over the years.
The bright side of releasing BBOS in open source, will most likely contribution of feedback and sharing of infos thru different BB fan forums, from tech geeks on how to improve user experience... and that's without compromising the security structure.shakingthrough likes this.04-25-16 08:40 PMLike 1 -
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As far as Blackberry devices are concerned, I always loved my z30. The only flaw was the volume buttons rattled but other then that, a rock solid device. I wish they would update the design with Android OS and a better screen and processor, I would be all in if the price was competitive.TgeekB likes this.04-26-16 05:15 AMLike 1 -
- You can't be serious, the iPhone has the best build quality and service support in the industry and is what all devices are judged against.
As far as Blackberry devices are concerned, I always loved my z30. The only flaw was the volume buttons rattled but other then that, a rock solid device. I wish they would update the design with Android OS and a better screen and processor, I would be all in if the price was competitive.
The newest member....Cobalt Classic04-26-16 10:18 PMLike 0 - Hmmm, the iPhone SE. The question is whether Apple can compete with Android in the midrange category. TBH, I think Apple will just cannibalize it's own higher end sales. I would easily say that 50 percent of Apple users would gladly give up the iPhone6 for a cheaper option. The only rub is that the iPhone SE hardware is really quite poor for the price point so that might prevent bled from their higher end customers in the short term. New Mid range customers want value and at 400 dollars, the less than competitive hardware on the iPhone SE just isn't going to cut it against Android.
Apple has a strong foothold is Western markets but it is pretty much toast in emerging markets. Too expensive both at the high end and in the mid range. Limited ecosystem and let's face it everything in China is going Android. Maybe the SE might help but I doubt it. Just look at what one can get in China for 400 dollars. Timing and the right product is everything in business and well Apple missed the boat in the far East. That is pretty clear from the current earnings call.
Apple is now officially in a race, with all the other hardware makers, to the bottom. I have said it before and I will say it again, customers are going to benefit from this. The 400-500 dollar value phone is where the action will be and apple right now can't compete. Margins will have to drop again or the product will have to get better for the price is point.
Posted via CB1004-27-16 04:07 AMLike 0 -
- Apples screens lead in build quality? Is that why they just purchased 2 billion worth from Samsung for what will likely be the iPhone 8? I am using a iPhone 6s Plus (my dad threw my way for shines and giggles) do you really think it feels better constructed than a Z30? (To thin and slippery without a case in my opinion)
The newest member....Cobalt Classic
I do agree that the iPhone 6s+ is very thin and needs a case, but I actually don't mind that too much. Based on drop and bend test videos the device is pretty dang sturdy. However, I do have an Apple leather case which is very sleek and adds a good amount of grip.04-27-16 06:32 PMLike 0
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