BIS not working over Wifi on 9650
- I'm overseas (in Russia, if it matters), and I'm trying to use BIS over Wifi. I've connected to the hotspot, I can browse the web, ping, and all that, but I can't use BBM or email.
I have a BB data plan back in the USA with Verizon, and everything has always worked fine there. Since it is only Wifi, I don't see why it would matter whether it is in the US or Russia, since I am not trying to connect to a mobile network.
How can I enable BIS to work over Wifi here?07-28-10 08:33 AMLike 0 - An international plan from Verizon, or can I see if the local carrier (which supports BIS) can help me out?07-28-10 09:08 AMLike 0
- What would the proper router settings have to be? I've only tried this on one router so it may be the case.07-28-10 10:06 AMLike 0
- Yes. The user would need either an international plan from Verizon or a local BIS plan in order to use any BlackBerry Data Features EVEN over WiFi.07-28-10 11:15 AMLike 0
- What doesn't make sense?
BlackBerry Data is routed through the RIM servers.
You must have a BlackBerry Data plan to access that.
Which part is confusing?07-28-10 07:53 PMLike 0 -
Could I just activate the Verizon international plan, use an unlocked SIM for calls and texts, and use BIS over Wifi, without actually ever using Verizon's service?07-28-10 08:02 PMLike 0 -
I thought that was only to cover data use over foreign cell networks and as long as you have a regular BIS account (which entitles you to access BBM, the browser, etc over any connection, be it wi-fi or the mobile network), you can access it overseas. The International Data plan is just to cover use of those foreign cell networks without getting screwed with insane data roaming charges.
A buddy of mine went to China and she was able to access BBM on her curve via Hotel Wi-Fi (she even told me so) without subscribing to any International data plan and (she just had her regular BIS data plan), so this is why it is confusing that Verizon is demanding he subscribe to an INTERNATIONAL DATA PLAN to use BIS over WIFI overseas, when a regular BIS account should suffice and WIFI access is agnostic to whether you're connected domestically or internationally.
Of course, knowing Verizon, I wouldn't be surprised if this were really the case.Last edited by Culex316; 07-28-10 at 10:16 PM.
07-28-10 10:12 PMLike 0 - Reed McLayRetired ModeratorRussia, eh?
I suspect the local ISP is filtering content.
The simple test is to try it in a Western Europian county. If it works as expected, BIS over Wifi, but fails when you cross the boarder, you will know for sure.07-30-10 01:52 PMLike 0 - Yeah I'm in the boat that if you have WiFi, this SHOULD work as you're sending data. Expecting phone calls to work over WiFi is a different story.
Its probably true, but I still can't fathom Verizon charging their plan to use it on WiFi. If that was true, why would you still be doing it on WiFi?07-30-10 02:46 PMLike 0 - Reed McLayRetired ModeratorYeah I'm in the boat that if you have WiFi, this SHOULD work as you're sending data. Expecting phone calls to work over WiFi is a different story.
Its probably true, but I still can't fathom Verizon charging their plan to use it on WiFi. If that was true, why would you still be doing it on WiFi?
If your carrier supports the service, Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA) allows voice, SMS text and data to over Wifi. When UMA is active, you have full access to your carriers plan from any Wifi Hotspot.
Many carriers do not support UMA, concerned that it may impact the wireless revenue stream. Those carriers use models that allow BIS/BES over Wifi, but not voice and text.
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