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  1. grahamf's Avatar
    Exactly. It's great for a mobile browser, but not even in the same class as desktop browsers. I mean, raw CPU power alone would put the desktops at a huge advantage.
    Except the desktop is not a Real-time OS. Everybody seems to forget that the core of Blackbery 10 is QNX, which is designed to GUARANTEE time sensitive requests (such as ones regarding the interface, rendering, networking)
    02-10-14 12:36 AM
  2. BerryRipe's Avatar
    My Q10 on 4g LTE does not load up web sites as fast as they are saying unless these tests were done using wifi.

    Keep The Faith ? BlackBerry Q10 ?
    02-10-14 12:46 AM
  3. spikesolie's Avatar
    My Q10 on 4g LTE does not load up web sites as fast as they are saying unless these tests were done using wifi.

    Keep The Faith ? BlackBerry Q10 ?
    Smh you know this... LTE is dependent in carrier smh

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    02-10-14 09:24 AM
  4. wincyUt's Avatar
    Go Berry!! The light will eventually shine on any darkness.
    02-10-14 09:53 AM
  5. Mo Cat's Avatar
    So the person that posted the positive BB story on BGR, still works there?
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    02-10-14 03:42 PM
  6. RedxD's Avatar
    I'm curious about whether the people that were arguing about the "5.0" being BBOS5 discovered that it's actually the version of BlackBerry10's browser, check whatsmyuseragent.com with your BlackBerry10 devices.
    Playbook007 likes this.
    02-10-14 05:18 PM
  7. mikeo007's Avatar
    I'm curious about whether the people that were arguing about the "5.0" being BBOS5 discovered that it's actually the version of BlackBerry10's browser, check whatsmyuseragent.com with your BlackBerry10 devices.
    Surely you don't think that 5.0 is the browser version? Are you talking about the first part of the user agent string that state's that the browser is a Mozilla 5.0 compatible browser? Because that would be an extremely incorrect way to read a browser user agent string. And that's the only place 5.0 appears.

    Here, this explains what the user agent string actually means: UserAgentString.com - BlackBerry

    If 5.0 is the browser version number, then they'd have a hard time differentiating since literally every Blackberry browser in the past 3+ years has had their string start with the same entry. Not to mention virtually every Android browser in existance.

    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9900; en) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.1.0.346 Mobile Safari/534.11+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9860; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0.0.254 Mobile Safari/534.11+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9850; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0.0.254 Mobile Safari/534.11+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9850; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0.0.115 Mobile Safari/534.11+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9850; en) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0.0.254 Mobile Safari/534.11+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; zh-TW) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.448 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; zh-TW) AppleWebKit/534.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.246 Mobile Safari/534.1+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; tr) AppleWebKit/534.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.246 Mobile Safari/534.1+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; it) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.668 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; fr) AppleWebKit/534.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.246 Mobile Safari/534.1+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.701 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.466 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.450 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.448 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.446 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.201 Mobile Safari/534.1+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko)
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; en-GB) AppleWebKit/534.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.337 Mobile Safari/534.1+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9800; en) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.448 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9700; pt) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.546 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9700; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.546 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9380; en-GB) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.1.0.117 Mobile Safari/534.11+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9360; it) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.1.0.336 Mobile Safari/534.11+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9360; en) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0.0.530 Mobile Safari/534.11+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9330; en) AppleWebKit/534.11+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.1.0.346 Mobile Safari/534.11+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9300; it) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.666 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9300; es) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.668 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9300; en) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.570 Mobile Safari/534.8+
    02-10-14 06:13 PM
  8. RedxD's Avatar
    Surely you don't think that 5.0 is the browser version? Are you talking about the first part of the user agent string that state's that the browser is a Mozilla 5.0 compatible browser? Because that would be an extremely incorrect way to read a browser user agent string. And that's the only place 5.0 appears.

    Here, this explains what the user agent string actually means: UserAgentString.com - BlackBerry

    If 5.0 is the browser version number, then they'd have a hard time differentiating since literally every Blackberry browser in the past 3+ years has had their string start with the same entry. Not to mention virtually every Android browser in existance.
    Fair point, my mistake, I still have to assume that's what they took as version either that or somehow BBOS5's browser is better than not only BB10's but BB6's and BB7's.
    02-10-14 07:15 PM
  9. h20work's Avatar
    I don't think I agree on that.
    Not all the sites detect BlackBerry 10 browser as mobile device. There tons of sites that I visit and mostly the desktop version of the site loads up.

    Posted via CB10
    Which sites, most load mobile versions for me unless I go into developer tools and enable "desktop mode". Enabling desktop mode on t-mobileusa uses up your hot spot allocation for for some strange reason.
    02-10-14 09:56 PM
  10. h20work's Avatar
    Random sampling of sites
    BGR gives a positive on BB10?-img_20140210_225858.png
    BGR gives a positive on BB10?-img_20140210_225917.png
    BGR gives a positive on BB10?-img_20140210_225937.png
    BGR gives a positive on BB10?-img_20140210_230217.png
    BGR gives a positive on BB10?-img_20140210_230156.png
    BGR gives a positive on BB10?-img_20140210_230319.jpg

    Some load mobile versions, some load full versions. Unless you enable desktop mode on bb10, it's the luck of the draw.
    02-10-14 10:12 PM
  11. melb_me's Avatar
    I find about 90% are the full version...but ya some load the mobile version...I guess it depends a lot on your browsing habits.
    02-11-14 08:10 AM
  12. nonesuchnick's Avatar
    iOS added Flash support? When did that happen? I thought Apple devices and software would never, ever, support Flash.
    02-11-14 08:37 AM
  13. RubberChicken76's Avatar
    Exactly. It's great for a mobile browser, but not even in the same class as desktop browsers. I mean, raw CPU power alone would put he desktops at a huge advantage.
    This has been my experience also. As a mobile browsing goes, I think they did a good job. But I'm not buying the "beats desktop browsers" thing either - haven't seen a mobile browser yet that does that.
    02-11-14 09:45 AM
  14. RubberChicken76's Avatar
    or somehow BBOS5's browser is better than not only BB10's but BB6's and BB7's.
    Wow - would they ever have made a mistake if they came to that conclusion! I thought I blocked BlackBerry 5's non-webkit browser from my mind as a horrible memory. Even BlackBerry 6 and 7 were big steps up from that! (shudder)
    02-11-14 09:46 AM
  15. tinochiko's Avatar
    iOS added Flash support? When did that happen? I thought Apple devices and software would never, ever, support Flash.
    When Steve Jobs Died anything the company said it would never do lost merit

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    02-11-14 10:10 AM
  16. RAFA1's Avatar
    02-11-14 06:20 PM
  17. RAFA1's Avatar
    Check this thread and try your browser,then make a conclusion, this test is real life,no benchmark

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-14 06:22 PM
  18. mikeo007's Avatar
    Check this thread and try your browser,then make a conclusion, this test is real life,no benchmark

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    The HTML5 benchmark is not a benchmark? Interesting. HTML 5 compliance has NOTHING to do with browser speed btw.
    02-11-14 06:24 PM
  19. app_Developer's Avatar
    I'm curious about whether the people that were arguing about the "5.0" being BBOS5 discovered that it's actually the version of BlackBerry10's browser, check whatsmyuseragent.com with your BlackBerry10 devices.
    I did check the user agent. Can you post yours?

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    02-16-14 05:34 PM
  20. app_Developer's Avatar
    iOS added Flash support? When did that happen? I thought Apple devices and software would never, ever, support Flash.
    No, Apple did not add flash support to iOS. Somehow we got to talking about flash on the Mac.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    02-16-14 05:35 PM
  21. nonesuchnick's Avatar
    No, Apple did not add flash support to iOS. Somehow we got to talking about flash on the Mac.
    Ah, okay thanks for clarifying! That makes more sense.


    Posted via CB10
    02-16-14 11:52 PM
  22. tinochiko's Avatar
    Ah, okay thanks for clarifying! That makes more sense.


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    Flash now works on my iPad, also on iPhones of people I know, so either Apple added flash support, or flash added apple support

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    02-17-14 10:01 AM
  23. app_Developer's Avatar
    Flash now works on my iPad, also on iPhones of people I know, so either Apple added flash support, or flash added apple support

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    More likely the site you are visiting automatically provides a non-flash alternative since iOS users are a big part of their audience.
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    02-17-14 10:24 AM
  24. tinochiko's Avatar
    More likely the site you are visiting automatically provides a non-flash alternative since iOS users are a big part of their audience.
    Well I've yet to visit a sight with flash that doesn't work..

    Have you got a test site?

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    02-17-14 10:32 AM
  25. mikeo007's Avatar
    Well I've yet to visit a sight with flash that doesn't work..

    Have you got a test site?

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    http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html

    Above is adobes test page for flash, you'll notice the animation does not work on an iOS device.

    iOS does not, and will likely never support flash natively. Adobe themselves have even abandoned mobile flash.
    02-17-14 11:25 AM
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