- wow...Good thing I didn't come to this thread to read 6 pages of mindless griping...oh wait.
Yet another stupid thread on this topic where facts aren't actually brought to the table. Instead, fanboi's go on their rants from different platforms bashing each other.
I'm not sure if I should even bother actually bringing facts to this thread because as with most other threads I've engaged in, I bring an objective view with supporting facts. For instance, in the "This is true multi-tasking!" thread, I posted the following with some facts and my opinion on these:
Wow I can't believe I read through the entire thread...
I'm way too tired/lazy/indifferent to explain the differences between the specific types of "multitasking" performed by the different OS's.
Basically the new Android apps CAN BE PROGRAMMED to multitask and run in the background...similar story with iOS. Native BB10 apps do this (for the most part) by default with some limitations owing to the lack of the Headless Apps feature.
Either way, I'm glad the OP had a great experience with his device
I personally quite like my fianc�e's S4 but prefer my Zed.
It is all a personal thing.
Android have done well to respond to the multitasking of the playbook with their newer OS's despite some of the technical setbacks. From a technical point of view, the QNX system does perform multitasking like Windows does which is why they claim "Real" multitasking whereas Android and iOS don't.
Either way, let's stop the fighting on here...it is really irrelevant since it seems that Android has worked around their OS multi-thread processing issues and users are able to experience multitasking for the most part. Both Android and BB10 can multitask quite well...sorry iOS. haha JK!
So instead, I'm going to just be biased like everybody else; because apparently nobody cares about actual facts, they just want to bicker.
The Samsung GS4 is the worst phone in the universe...LOL Android sucks! WTF are 1bn people thinking?!?! It's obvious that the Curve 8520 is the mostest innovative device in the whole wide world!
If people want, I will actually start bringing facts to this thread or we can all just sit here and bicker like 12-year-olds. PS - I'm 24 and male, before I get called an old fart who just complains. As I told my fianc�e last night: "It's not my fault that people don't live up to my standards...I just want to help them get up there. Nobody improves without criticism. That is the point of criticism,"
EDIT: Oh wait, no I remember that I removed all the facts from that thread because it was pointless...Last edited by Nharzhool; 11-30-13 at 11:59 PM.
11-30-13 11:49 PMLike 0 - One platform is not inherently "better" than another; only what is best for one's needs . . Buy what you like and let other people buy what they like. OP sounds like some playground bully coming in to kick sand and stir up trouble.
If you like it, buy it and enjoy it, and let others do the same11-30-13 11:50 PMLike 0 - My nexus 5 has 3 buttons, my z10 has 4...uh oh, buttons are bad right?
Prosumer
Mobile Computing
Peek and flow
Fluid graphics
QNX
No back button
etc...
They are all courtesy of the same marketing department that people who declare these as benifits, vilify for being ineffective. Half the people that bring up qnx probably have no idea what it is.
These are features, not advantages or benefits. It's up to the particular user to determine if the feature is an advantage or not, and that depends on personal preference.
A larger app selection is an advantage. Stronger security is an advantage. Expandable memory is an advantage. No back button is a design characteristic, not an advantage. I doubt anyone before the z10 came out was ever saying "geez I really love this phone, just wish it didn't have a home button."11-30-13 11:52 PMLike 6 - For the record, I never once said or in any way implied that sales equal quality. I only pointed out the fact that BlackBerry 10, up to this point has been a complete commercial failure. And I think we can all agree that that is a fact of the situation. After all, BlackBerry is now in debt thanks almost soley to their 3 billion dollar mistake.
This thread is supposed to be about facts isn't it?avt123 likes this.12-01-13 12:21 AMLike 1 - It's a flop because it was poorly marketed... If you think going full android will save them or sticking to BB7 you are wrong... Like Steve Jobs said " people don't know what they want " so BlackBerry needs to get back to proper effective marketing...
Posted via CB1012-01-13 12:45 AMLike 0 -
Are you going to say that any BB10 devices sold, adding on to the numbers already sold, is a failure? Sure, numbers have it that it doesn't sell well. That is a fact. But how does that translate itself as a failure? Opinionated as failure, yes. Fact? No. I do remember when some of the people here were even making bolder claims, that BB10 would not even make it past the launch, and yet have the audicity to continue spewing off opinions of 'impending doom' post launch and trying to pass them off (and still passing them off) as failures.
Strongly opinionated as a failure? I can agree, keyword: can. Passing that as a fact? Hell no.damien kupuku likes this.12-01-13 12:48 AMLike 1 - Nice theory but given how gigantic a failure BB10 is at this time, it doesn't really matter if BB10 is the absolute bestest OS ever made and could bake a cake, drive a car and launch a space shuttle, the fact of the matter is that trying to compare an OS that has, at most, a 1.7% marketshare (likely far less since the BB number includes BB7 devices which means a marketshare of less than 1% for BB10 alone) with Android or iOS is both a little presumptuous and somewhat desperate.12-01-13 12:52 AMLike 0
- that's more of an opinion.
Are you going to say that any BB10 devices sold, adding on to the numbers already sold, is a failure? Sure, numbers have it that it doesn't sell well. That is a fact. But how does that translate itself as a failure? Opinionated as failure, yes. Fact? No. I do remember when some of the people here were even making bolder claims, that BB10 would not even make it past the launch, and yet have the audicity to continue spewing off opinions of 'impending doom' post launch and trying to pass them off (and still passing them off) as failures.
Strongly opinionated as a failure? I can agree, keyword: can. Passing that as a fact? Hell no.12-01-13 01:20 AMLike 4 -
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- exactly, if androids ui was so complicated and confusing as a lot of BB fans made as an argument against android how come they so easily and quickly downloaded launchers to try on bb10 and set them up including widgets very quickly? cant be that complicated or extremely long to set up its simple and quick, even my mother has her calendar set up with her fav apps and newsfeed widgets on her android with large text enabled by herself and this is a woman who is dyslexic and unused to technology besides dumbphones and laptops12-01-13 03:03 AMLike 0
- Hook all those components up to any older Android and tell me what happens!! Or any new android and tell me what happens!! They didn't catch up they had it all along. Just applying the right innovative steps to there OS! Ive had a Android S4 tried it and it bottle necked. My Z30 Rocks.
vs this
Saiga likes this.12-01-13 03:27 AMLike 1 -
Let's face it: There is no need for a physical "home" button. Home buttons seem extremely antiquated to me now. This is of course just my opinion, but -- for me -- its hard to go back to a physical home button. There is no reason to have one anymore. A better idea has been invented.damien kupuku likes this.12-01-13 03:33 AMLike 1 - Selection and Specs Jump from model to model are keys for me. I can change from LG to Samsung to Sony to Nexus every contract and still have my base android experience. BB10 the limited selection and slow churn of new models seems constricting and quite frankly boring. I'm pretty much stuck to what BB10 offers in the next model.
Sent from whichever BBM carrying device I happen to grab, via Tapatalk12-01-13 04:11 AMLike 0 - BB10 you can text and listen to music at the same time. The S4 music stops when you text. BB10 true multitasking.12-01-13 05:51 AMLike 0
- $1 Billion dollars in unsold stock. They obviously expected to sell them, BB10 didn't meet the companies own sales expectations, we're almost a year into it, it's not picking up. It's the very definition of failure / flop. Not only is it not getting better, it's getting quite a bit worse. Most carriers aren't even offering the Z30. The flagship BB10 device is now the least selling (that's speculation obviously until we see numbers, but there is no possible way it's selling well) Carriers have basically given up on the platform. T-Mobile reps I've spoken to at my local store say they've been told they're phasing BB out altogether, trying to sell what inventory they have online only. The Z10 can be gotten brand new on craigslist in a box sealed, unlocked for $150. If you can show me one single note of "this isn't a flop" I'll consider it. The company couldn't even sell itself after the "turnaround" C'mon man. It's a flop. I'm not saying it's game over, I actually desperately hope they hang on, I don't want the OS to go away, I like it. I like it a lot. Reality is tough though, and that reality is that this OS didn't come anywhere in the realm of expectations.12-01-13 05:58 AMLike 0
- While I also love the gestures of BB10 the whole "no home button is better" argument is ridiculous. Swiping the screen and tapping a button are BOTH an action. There isn't time savings because each of them is an action that needs to be done in order to operate the OS. If you are talking about unlocking the screen with one swipe vs using a home button you might save a millisecond that won't add up to anything over the course of a day. I realize I'll be met by some with the statement of "those seconds add up over the day and I need those milliseconds", which is complete nonsense.
Besides that, with the case of the Z10, read around that forum about how to save the battery. Because of the poor battery life of the Z10 all the battery savings tips will tell you to turn off the swipe to unlock feature because it's such a battery drain. I'm sure it's not the case with the Q10 and Z30 but it's definitely what many people do with their Z10's to save battery so that gesture goes out the window anyway.12-01-13 06:42 AMLike 0 - The thread is about BB10 VS Android, which is better using facts. Sales have nothing to do with quality so even though they are facts they shouldn't e mentioned here.
I have a few facts.
On Android, generally speaking, non Nexus phones, which are virtually all of them, get one update and it takes forever, few get two, it also takes forever and it usually has problems, some get none.
On BB10, as long as the device has the specs, every phone will get the update.
Also, when comparing these two operating systems, you have to compare them themselves, not what Samsung adds exclusively to one of their phones or what a 3rd party app does.damien kupuku likes this.12-01-13 06:42 AMLike 1 -
- that's more of an opinion.
Are you going to say that any BB10 devices sold, adding on to the numbers already sold, is a failure? Sure, numbers have it that it doesn't sell well. That is a fact. But how does that translate itself as a failure? Opinionated as failure, yes. Fact? No. I do remember when some of the people here were even making bolder claims, that BB10 would not even make it past the launch, and yet have the audicity to continue spewing off opinions of 'impending doom' post launch and trying to pass them off (and still passing them off) as failures.
Strongly opinionated as a failure? I can agree, keyword: can. Passing that as a fact? Hell no.
Sent from my iPhone 5s using Tapatalk12-01-13 07:01 AMLike 0 - UziRetired ModeratorThe thread is about BB10 VS Android, which is better using facts. Sales have nothing to do with quality so even though they are facts they shouldn't e mentioned here.
I have a few facts.
On Android, generally speaking, non Nexus phones, which are virtually all of them, get one update and it takes forever, few get two, it also takes forever and it usually has problems, some get none.
On BB10, as long as the device has the specs, every phone will get the update.
Also, when comparing these two operating systems, you have to compare them themselves, not what Samsung adds exclusively to one of their phones or what a 3rd party app does.
Posted via CB1012-01-13 07:04 AMLike 0 - 12-01-13 07:09 AMLike 0
- The thread is about BB10 VS Android, which is better using facts. Sales have nothing to do with quality so even though they are facts they shouldn't e mentioned here.
I have a few facts.
On Android, generally speaking, non Nexus phones, which are virtually all of them, get one update and it takes forever, few get two, it also takes forever and it usually has problems, some get none.
On BB10, as long as the device has the specs, every phone will get the update.
Also, when comparing these two operating systems, you have to compare them themselves, not what Samsung adds exclusively to one of their phones or what a 3rd party app does.
Sent from my iPhone 5s using TapatalkRello likes this.12-01-13 07:09 AMLike 1
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