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I not so sure.01-28-10 08:11 AMLike 0 - So, if a program locks up my BB at 9 in the morning (which will prevent even calls coming through as I have had happen a few times), I should wait for 11 pm (which is when I have the auto off set) for it to go off, and when it comes back on at 7 in the morning, everthing will be fine?
I not so sure.01-28-10 08:33 AMLike 0 - Is using an app like "Quick Pull" advisable? Pulling a battery is pain in the *** enough... just want to avoid wear and tear on the battery door - so it doesn't get too loose down the road... I've heard of battery doors becoming so loose they fall off by themselves...01-28-10 08:37 AMLike 0
- So, if a program locks up my BB at 9 in the morning (which will prevent even calls coming through as I have had happen a few times), I should wait for 11 pm (which is when I have the auto off set) for it to go off, and when it comes back on at 7 in the morning, everthing will be fine?
I not so sure.
He said most battery pulls can be avoided...
Back on topic, 1 should be enough. Who told you to do 3 in a row?01-28-10 11:56 AMLike 0 - So, if a program locks up my BB at 9 in the morning (which will prevent even calls coming through as I have had happen a few times), I should wait for 11 pm (which is when I have the auto off set) for it to go off, and when it comes back on at 7 in the morning, everthing will be fine?
I not so sure.
If people took the time to remove programs from their phone that they do not need. IE, why do i need VZ Navigator, VCast, Vodafone Music on my T-Mobile 9700. and yes those are in my .442 file. Why do i need the T-mobile enabler, my fave five programming, Visual Voice Mail, and t-mobiles "my account" , if i know that that i am not going to use them. So before i run my apploader and put a new OS on my phone i take an extra 5 mins and delete the stuff that i know i will not be using. upload the new OS to my phone minus all the crap, and i don't have problems, due to a carrier v. supplied software problem, and i get more memory.
With that being said. if you close down the applications you do not use, i'm not talking about like uber twitter, or vodafone update i mean like ebay/ amazon/ slacker/ pandora/facebook... stuff that has no auto refresh you lessen the chances of .cod files fighting with each other....
the closer you get to the fire, the higher chance you have of getting burned is what i am getting at...
there are obvious time you need to do a battery pull... but it shouldn't be the first resort like everyone makes it out to be.
and if you use a memory cleaner like FixMoTools, you can keep your ROM/RAM clean and less the chances of a battery pull even further
and program like Kisses will help you find hidden open programs.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com01-28-10 12:16 PMLike 0 - Reed McLayRetired ModeratorI have seen that misinformation posted and re-posted recently.
When your battery is out, there is no power to the internal logic. Applying power forces it to restart, exactly the same way each time. Doing it multiple time is pointless and counter productive becasue you are wasting time when you could be using the BlackBerry.
I use Auto On/Off, it powers down at night and turns back on in the morning. The flood of overnight reports makes a pretty decient alarm clock.01-28-10 12:20 PMLike 0 -
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com01-28-10 02:25 PMLike 0 -
Sorry, I couldn't resist...
One battery pull is sufficient.Last edited by elvin1983; 01-28-10 at 02:32 PM.
01-28-10 02:28 PMLike 0 - Reed McLayRetired ModeratorOriginally Posted by helljack6@BBH...what follows is based on and supported only by my findings ...
...However, this doesn't specifically address high dph right our of the box on a fresh OS/Hybrid install. To counter that, I as well as many others here with in the community recommend pulling the battery. Me personally, I do a minimum of 5x battery pulls during the first 4 hours. The reason is this, when you do a soft reset, which is fine in some cases, it doesn't allow the hand held device to completely disipate the electrical charge from the system, thereby keeping stuff within system memory, on board capacitors and whatnot. Removing the battery for at least 30 seconds allows for a complete system electrical discharge so that when the handheld is fired up again, it's firing up completely fresh, no lost or "orphaned" data remaining within it's memory. ...
Let me qualify by saying, I hold professional certifications in hardware maintenance and support, (A+ certification) with over 35 years of experience. I have built computers from a bag of parts and a solder pencil. I have been programming them just as long.
I have to dispute the concept of "lost data", it just does not happen that way. When the power on restart takes place, the Program Counter resets the address bus too zero. The memory is initialized and everything is purged in the process. Removing the power has no effect on Flash Memory, no matter how often you do it.
01-28-10 02:29 PMLike 0 - I've used QuickPull so far, just got my 9700 on Friday, and I've only used it rather than doing an actual battery pull and it's worked perfect every time. I keep my phone in an Otterbox Defender case so that'd be painful to have to actually pull the battery every time.01-28-10 03:19 PMLike 0
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You do know that blackberries have a built in "native" quick pull
press and hold all at the same time
-the right "alt" button
-the left "caps" button
-the "del" button
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com01-28-10 03:50 PMLike 0 -
I would add also that even RIM recommends and approves of the battery pull as needed. It's on their web site...no really, it is!01-28-10 10:59 PMLike 0 - 01-28-10 11:31 PMLike 0
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