1. 62jmw's Avatar
    We received a text from ATT that beginning in Feb, 2022 your 3G service will stop working. I assume the 4G phones will still work though?

    My Key 2 is a 4G phone.

    Comments?
    06-09-21 04:21 PM
  2. ppeters914's Avatar
    There's already another thread that discusses this.
    06-09-21 04:31 PM
  3. conite's Avatar
    We received a text from ATT that beginning in Feb, 2022 your 3G service will stop working. I assume the 4G phones will still work though?

    My Key 2 is a 4G phone.

    Comments?
    4G/LTE is not the same as VoLTE. The KEY² is unlikely to be able to make calls or send SMS.
    06-09-21 04:42 PM
  4. RoseBud68's Avatar
    There should be no one a 3G at the point in time.
    06-09-21 06:14 PM
  5. jmorgan456's Avatar
    There is another thread on this exact issue. I have my Key 2 on ATT. Personally (and with no evidence whatsoever) I believe that when February comes around ATT will relent on their BS position that to use 4G on their network you cannot BYOD. But we will see. If not, I will assess the filed at the time. If I need to switch carriers, I might have no choice. Obviously, I am out of contract and can move as I see fit.

    In the meantime, the official ATT line is - If you are not using an apple product or one of our phones, you will not be able to use our network in Feb '22. I have heard that multiple times, from multiple sources.
    06-10-21 10:40 AM
  6. conite's Avatar
    There is another thread on this exact issue. I have my Key 2 on ATT. Personally (and with no evidence whatsoever) I believe that when February comes around ATT will relent on their BS position that to use 4G on their network you cannot BYOD. But we will see. If not, I will assess the filed at the time. If I need to switch carriers, I might have no choice. Obviously, I am out of contract and can move as I see fit.
    AT&T has been consistent on its BYOD policy regarding advanced features for a decade.

    I don't think they will relent now - particularly when it affects so few people.
    06-10-21 10:42 AM
  7. jmorgan456's Avatar
    AT&T has been consistent on its BYOD policy regarding advanced features for a decade.

    I am aware of that. But we will see. I understand very well that to use a phone of my choice I might have to move. But again, we will see.
    06-10-21 10:43 AM
  8. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I am aware of that. But we will see. I understand very well that to use a phone of my choice I might have to move. But again, we will see.
    Some are already seeing...
    06-11-21 07:17 AM
  9. gligor1's Avatar
    4G/LTE is not the same as VoLTE. The KEY² is unlikely to be able to make calls or send SMS.
    AT&T said (as recently as last night) that they -think- the Key2 uses the 3G VOICE network -- but transmits data at 4G. Can anyone confirm or deny?
    (I haven't had time to look at the manual -- and you can't tell from the settings.)

    They will provide one of three phones for free: The AT&T Radiant Core and the AT&T Cingular Flip 4 -- both cheap (under $100 each) and also the Apple iPhone Special Edition 2020 (which came out just before the iPhone 11) with 64 MB. (Higher MB devices are available for a slight actual
    cost/month).

    They also said that the Blackberry Key One and the Blackberry PRIV phones WILL work on their new network.

    What puzzles me is why would older Blackberry phones work when the Key2 (when released) was announced as being the most technologically advanced phone ever (in the Blackberry line). Can anyone answer that question for me? Thanks!
    06-11-21 08:58 AM
  10. conite's Avatar
    AT&T said (as recently as last night) that they -think- the Key2 uses the 3G VOICE network -- but transmits data at 4G.
    This is exactly what I and many others have been saying.

    And that's ONLY because AT&T does not allow advanced features (VoLTE) on many BYOD devices - like the KEY².
    06-11-21 10:06 AM
  11. gligor1's Avatar
    This is exactly what I and many others have been saying.

    And that's ONLY because AT&T does not allow advanced features (VoLTE) on many BYOD devices - like the KEY².
    Thank you. So for clarity since I am new to this discussion group -- what you are saying is that the phone does in fact have the advanced features required to operate on this new network but when the phone says to the network "I'm here and I can function" -- the new network will say "Who do you think you are? And ignore the phone."
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    06-11-21 10:13 AM
  12. conite's Avatar
    Thank you. So for clarity since I am new to this discussion group -- what you are saying is that the phone does in fact have the advanced features required to operate on this new network but when the phone says to the network "I'm here and I can function" -- the new network will say "Who do you think you are? And ignore the phone."
    The KEY devices have the capability, but AT&T won't allow it.

    You will likely have better luck with TMO.
    06-11-21 10:49 AM
  13. app_Developer's Avatar
    Thank you. So for clarity since I am new to this discussion group -- what you are saying is that the phone does in fact have the advanced features required to operate on this new network but when the phone says to the network "I'm here and I can function" -- the new network will say "Who do you think you are? And ignore the phone."
    The feature has to be provisioned for that specific device for any device to use VoLTE.

    AT&T doesn’t provision this feature for phones that they do not support. They never have.
    06-11-21 10:53 AM
  14. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    AT&T said (as recently as last night) that they -think- the Key2 uses the 3G VOICE network -- but transmits data at 4G. Can anyone confirm or deny?
    (I haven't had time to look at the manual -- and you can't tell from the settings.)

    They will provide one of three phones for free: The AT&T Radiant Core and the AT&T Cingular Flip 4 -- both cheap (under $100 each) and also the Apple iPhone Special Edition 2020 (which came out just before the iPhone 11) with 64 MB. (Higher MB devices are available for a slight actual
    cost/month).

    They also said that the Blackberry Key One and the Blackberry PRIV phones WILL work on their new network.

    What puzzles me is why would older Blackberry phones work when the Key2 (when released) was announced as being the most technologically advanced phone ever (in the Blackberry line). Can anyone answer that question for me? Thanks!
    The carrier locked and sold AT&T PRIV and AT&T KEYone are the specific ones referred to not any factory unlocked versions.
    06-11-21 01:38 PM
  15. IronMathbook's Avatar
    Is there any kinda LTE to VLTE signal converter device? I saw some say that it is a software issue and not a hardware issue and that it could be changed with some applications. This was iphone though.
    06-15-21 05:08 PM
  16. Ben xfg's Avatar
    Is there any kinda LTE to VLTE signal converter device? I saw some say that it is a software issue and not a hardware issue and that it could be changed with some applications. This was iphone though.
    Well, you can use an instant messenger or calling app to gain a voice function, but you'd have to create a different number.

    Posted via CB10
    06-15-21 05:58 PM
  17. IronMathbook's Avatar
    Well, you can use an instant messenger or calling app to gain a voice function, but you'd have to create a different number.

    Posted via CB10
    So I would still have data from AT&T but I would use an app to make calls? This would be similar to Voip?
    06-15-21 06:20 PM
  18. conite's Avatar
    So I would still have data from AT&T but I would use an app to make calls? This would be similar to Voip?
    It would seem so. But wouldn't you be better off going to TMO?
    06-15-21 07:20 PM
  19. joeldf's Avatar
    So I would still have data from AT&T but I would use an app to make calls? This would be similar to Voip?
    I don't think AT&T would allow that. You have a phone, and they are going to force a calling plan. And if that phone doesn't support their voice service - which will be only VoLTE next year - then you won't get any kind of plan on it. They'll just deactivate the SIM.
    06-15-21 10:10 PM
  20. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    So I would still have data from AT&T but I would use an app to make calls? This would be similar to Voip?
    As stated above, if your device isn’t VoLTE supported, AT&T will offer some discounted or free device if you wish to remain a customer or if you refuse, your SIM gets deactivated.
    06-16-21 07:57 AM
  21. IronMathbook's Avatar
    Oh, so it would be better to move over to T-moble. i's too bad there isn't some sort of VLTE adapter, or device which you could link to a phone.
    06-16-21 10:06 AM
  22. app_Developer's Avatar
    Oh, so it would be better to move over to T-moble. i's too bad there isn't some sort of VLTE adapter, or device which you could link to a phone.
    Well, if you're really determined, you could use a MiFi device. I do that when I'm in China or Japan. I keep a MiFi, plus a small USB battery, in my bag and then my phone is in wifi mode (with vpn), along with iPad and whatever else.

    That's a closest thing I can think of to an adaptor.
    Dunt Dunt Dunt likes this.
    06-16-21 11:54 AM
  23. IronMathbook's Avatar
    I might be willing to go for that. I can't part ways with keyboard and pocket sized phone. I don't know why anyone would want a phone that can't fit in a pocket.
    06-18-21 07:12 PM
  24. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I might be willing to go for that. I can't part ways with keyboard and pocket sized phone. I don't know why anyone would want a phone that can't fit in a pocket.
    I dual carry XR and 3a in same pocket without problem. No skinny jeans though.
    ppeters914 likes this.
    06-18-21 07:31 PM

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