[Article] Pentagon says 'absolutely no new orders have been placed' for BlackBerryphones
- Tell me about it. I've got a four year old laptop with missing keys and a four year old desktop. I've got a printer that regularly forgets that it's supposed to print.01-24-14 03:38 AMLike 0
- Why do they need to publish this kind of article? Because they knew their readers are idiots? In the first place, nothing in the statement of pentagon did say that they will purchase the 80k BlackBerry phones!
This simply shows, the people of the verge are the ones who didn't get the statement of pentagon correctly.
Posted via CB1001-24-14 03:43 AMLike 0 - Why do they need to publish this kind of article? Because they knew their readers are idiots? In the first place, nothing in the statement of pentagon did say that they will purchase the 80k BlackBerry phones!
This simply shows, the people of the verge are the ones who didn't get the statement of pentagon correctly.
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Maybe this whole loose structure of ADHD freelance writers and little to no editing and fact checking is doing us all a disservice. Had BlackBerry really sold 80,000 devices to DoD, wouldn't they have put out a press release? Shouldn't the original author, or someone looking to quote their story have done a little fact checking, or looked to see the original DoD release?
Sad truth is: all of these online sources pay writers to write so they throw a mishmash together and send it off. There's no time for real reporting online: by the time you do your due diligence the story is already old, or the real story has come out.
Posted via CB10undone and Karan Mohal like this.01-24-14 04:07 AMLike 2 - It's typical internet reporting: half read whatever statement you're going to report on and then release an article that only reflects what you mistakenly read. Article goes online and then gets linked to by dozens of other sources who are also too lazy to do their due diligence. Finally, once the real story comes out everyone ends up looking slightly foolish, but everyone has already moved onto the next half truth article and flame wars in their comments so it's forgotten.
Maybe this whole loose structure of ADHD freelance writers and little to no editing and fact checking is doing us all a disservice. Had BlackBerry really sold 80,000 devices to DoD, wouldn't they have put out a press release? Shouldn't the original author, or someone looking to quote their story have done a little fact checking, or looked to see the original DoD release?
Sad truth is: all of these online sources pay writers to write so they throw a mishmash together and send it off. There's no time for real reporting online: by the time you do your due diligence the story is already old, or the real story has come out.
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Posted via CB1001-24-14 04:32 AMLike 0 - Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusThe point is these are NOT BB10 devices, they are legacy BBOS devices that are connected to this MDM. DOD has hundreds of thousands already on hand. They would not need to purchase anything additional to support this. Also 100,000 devices is only the tip of the iceberg, so while BBOS devices make up the majority now, there is no guarantee that this will be the case even in the next couple of months, let alone the rest of the fiscal year. BB10 devices are a separate project that was started (and is ongoing) in parallel (well it started a bit ahead) to this Enterprise MDM project.Pete The Penguin and OMGitworks like this.01-24-14 06:28 AMLike 2
- Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusWhile not the case everywhere, it definitely does happen. Another big cause of waste is software, purchasing it just to have it and never using it. If only there was some sort of watchdog agency, or part of an agency that is supposed to prevent such things...01-24-14 06:30 AMLike 0
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Now, how much money does Apple make in services... iTunes, etc... app store, etc. The same goes to Google. Google sells the MotoX for pretty cheap knowing the services profit on turn around. Basically, Google calculates it's more profitable to move hardware at break even prices and make money on services long term. Blackberry has it's security business services and maybe I'm wrong but that's where most of the profits come from.
Anyone who thinks selling hardware to make profits is the way to go is completely wrong. Services is the profit maker.01-24-14 06:45 AMLike 0 - First comes BES 10 and like all government, munipal, police, health, military institutions the BB10 devices follow as the older ones reach end of life or are replaced for employees. I'm sure in the upcoming months (or a year or two) eventually all older devices (like Windows XP) will be fully replaced. That's cash in the horizon for BlackBerry and better security through the new OS (not that BBOS7 has an).
Looks like someone is up to no good to beat down more on BlackBerry.
Leave the company alone! :PLast edited by OMGitworks; 01-24-14 at 09:59 AM. Reason: typo
01-24-14 09:35 AMLike 0 -
The iTunes store and App Store primarily exist to sell high margin hardware, made higher by the fact that Apple also has their own distribution chain in the Apple Store chain.01-24-14 09:48 AMLike 0 - BlackBerry was and I believe still is offering to convert all the BBOS CALs on BES5 to BES10. I believe they are also offering to convert BBOS CALs to BB10 ones for free too. The BES10 software is a free download from BlackBerry. So what is there to order yet?
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01-24-14 10:00 AMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesYes... I believe Wiki and Rubber are right. I think I read somewhere that iTunes and Google Play don't pull in mega profits.01-24-14 10:01 AMLike 0
- DenverRalphyRetired Network ModThe point is these are NOT BB10 devices, they are legacy BBOS devices that are connected to this MDM. DOD has hundreds of thousands already on hand. They would not need to purchase anything additional to support this. Also 100,000 devices is only the tip of the iceberg, so while BBOS devices make up the majority now, there is no guarantee that this will be the case even in the next couple of months, let alone the rest of the fiscal year. BB10 devices are a separate project that was started (and is ongoing) in parallel (well it started a bit ahead) to this Enterprise MDM project.Sith_Apprentice likes this.01-24-14 10:07 AMLike 1
- Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusWhy are you so sure they are going to buy BB10 devices. The new system is being set up to also accommodate iOS and Android devices. I hope they purchase BB10 devices but suspect there will be some serious leakage and iOS and Android will start to make inroads into the BB10 monopoly.01-24-14 10:37 AMLike 0
- First comes BES 10 and like all government, munipal, police, health, military institutions the BB10 devices follow as the older ones reach end of life or are replaced for employees. I'm sure in the upcoming months (or a year or two) eventually all older devices (like Windows XP) will be fully replaced. That's cash in the horizon for BlackBerry and better security through the new OS (not that BBOS7 has an).
Looks like someone is up to no good to beat down more on BlackBerry.
Leave the company alone! :P01-24-14 03:28 PMLike 0 - Why are you so sure they are going to buy BB10 devices. The new system is being set up to also accommodate iOS and Android devices. I hope they purchase BB10 devices but suspect there will be some serious leakage and iOS and Android will start to make inroads into the BB10 monopoly.01-24-14 03:32 PMLike 0
- I'm sure it would matter to BB to make a dent in that huge warehouse full of outdated, unsold Z10's.01-24-14 04:23 PMLike 2
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- Berry Flow on the Verge article: http://berryflow.com/presumably-4000...d-inventories/
Posted via CB10James Nieves likes this.01-24-14 11:21 PMLike 1 - Do your homework first. Then come back to me. The reason why Iphones cost what they cost is because of support. Support is the #1 highest cost in many corporations. In top of that, Apple spends the most in support vs any other brand you can pop up in your head. Many investors think Apple spends too much and should cut down (just for profits sake)
Now, how much money does Apple make in services... iTunes, etc... app store, etc. The same goes to Google. Google sells the MotoX for pretty cheap knowing the services profit on turn around. Basically, Google calculates it's more profitable to move hardware at break even prices and make money on services long term. Blackberry has it's security business services and maybe I'm wrong but that's where most of the profits come from.
Anyone who thinks selling hardware to make profits is the way to go is completely wrong. Services is the profit maker.
Dude Apple became the most profitable company ever selling phones, tablets, and iPods. The services are free for Pete's sake! (Don't confuse the service (iTunes) with the product it sells (music.) )
"Do your homework."
You're funny!
Chaps like you are who make CrackBerry so awesomely entertaining for me. Thank you mate. Sincerely!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using CB Forums mobile app01-25-14 01:30 AMLike 0 - At this point, can I ask BlackBerry to roll over and die? Just give me the bootloader and OS signing keys to my PlayBook first.01-25-14 06:33 AMLike 0
- Do my homework!?
Dude Apple became the most profitable company ever selling phones, tablets, and iPods. The services are free for Pete's sake! (Don't confuse the service (iTunes) with the product it sells (music.) )
"Do your homework."
You're funny!
Chaps like you are who make CrackBerry so awesomely entertaining for me. Thank you mate. Sincerely!
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Posted via CB1001-25-14 09:08 AMLike 0 - I find it interesting that the article says they (the DoD) just have a boatload of BB legacy devices (80,000) sitting around in DOD inventory. I wonder who The Verge's DoD source is?
"The 80,000 BBs and 1,800 non-BB devices referenced in the release are legacy systems already in DoD inventories."
Who the hell would over order that many extra phones ????
And the fact that BB hasn't made a press release is because maybe just maybe the DoD has ask them not to...
The Verge.. smh...Laura Knotek likes this.01-25-14 11:30 AMLike 1 - LOL. Yeah, that is a lot. Our agency upgraded to the iPhone a few years ago. Sad part, for five years prior, the last upgrade was the 8310/8330, from the 8300. At the same time, I upgraded 7xx/8300 to an 8100, 8310, 9000, 9700, 9800, 9810, prior to my Z10/Q10. So, in the past, as long as 'the powers that be" could receive texts and emails, and occasionally, web-surfing(minimal), most are not concerned with upgrading the devices and/or the OS. At least that is the way the agency I work for handles technology. Granted, I've been there 18 years and seen a lot of changes. LOL, I do remember when we had a storage room of antiquated(non-upgradeable)T.I.(Texas Instruments) Laptops, along with several 1,000 Dell Hand-held devices, and thousands of older model BlackBerries.....as a State agency. So, I would not be surprised if the Feds had that many within one agency.01-25-14 11:43 AMLike 4
- Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusIt's significantly more than 40k BB10 devices. Army alone wanted 100k last year.
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