Apple CarPlay brings iPhone features to GM, BMW, Ford and other car dashboards
- ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorWhat I'm not clear on: if I'm not using an Apple device, am I going to get the same in-car experience? Or am I going to get a different interface if I use a non-Apple phone?03-03-14 11:14 AMLike 0
- You guys are not understanding how this works. CarPlay will basically be feature within the QNX OS. The in-car infotainment system will still be QNX Car 2. Car manufacturers will still be paying QNX for the OS. Carplay just overrides the UI of the OS and it only works if you get into to car with your iPhone 5, but car manufacturers still need to license QNX for all those people who do not have an iPhone. Keep in mind this feature only works with IPhone 5 and higher. So if you get into the car with another phone you will still be presented with an OS and that will be QNX Car 2.
This is a win for Blackberry because now the OS is more valuable to car companies and more people are going to buy cars with infotainment systems for this feature alone (from what I have read Carplay only works on QNX)
Play Starcraft? Join our Channel: C001242DE03-03-14 11:22 AMLike 0 - Bla1zeCB OGNope. Hence my short comments on it. Mass majority have no freaking clue what's in their car nor do they care as long as it works.Dave Bourque likes this.03-03-14 11:23 AMLike 1
- Bla1zeCB OGApple doesn't want you to be clear on that. That detracts from their mission of being "in car" technology. You'll need to wait until it comes out or someone gets a closer look at it to get the full, real story. It's hype time now, all they want you to see is nice cars with Apple technology.03-03-14 11:24 AMLike 0
- You guys are not understanding how this works. CarPlay will basically be feature within the QNX OS. The in-car infotainment system will still be QNX Car 2. Car manufacturers will still be paying QNX for the OS. Carplay just overrides the UI of the OS and it only works if you get into to car with your iPhone 5, but car manufacturers still need to license QNX for all those people who do not have an iPhone. Keep in mind this feature only works with IPhone 5 and higher. So if you get into the car with another phone you will still be presented with an OS and that will be QNX Car 2.
This is a win for Blackberry because now the OS is more valuable to car companies and more people are going to buy cars with infotainment systems for this feature alone (from what I have read Carplay only works on QNX)
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Posted via CB1003-03-14 11:27 AMLike 0 -
And Blackberry hardly did any "work" on QNX. Embedded OSes are not super dynamic OSes like consumer grade desktop or smartphone OSes. QNX today is unlikely to be much different from QNX when it bought it or QNX from a decade ago.
People are giving BBRY credit for everything for something marginal that it bought (not significantly contributed to) for a correspondingly marginal price. Extolling an embedded OS is not so far away from worshipping the nuts and bolts of the car.Last edited by sentimentGX4; 03-03-14 at 11:53 AM.
03-03-14 11:32 AMLike 4 - I am sure all devices will be basically useable, like now. Just that you don't get the goodies. At least that is how I am interpreting it.
Am a bit puzzled by the cable requirement. It's nice to be able to hook up via BT. I am wondering if latency is an issue, or just the sheer amount of data being pumped across.
For the car eco-system this is a lose long term for BB. You can work to replace the backend services that QNX provides and keep the same user experience for Iphone/Android/MS down the road and no one will notice or complain. Its much harder to leverage QNX to provide consumers BB10.03-03-14 11:39 AMLike 0 - QNX system is nice and I like that it works with android and apple. It's good that blackbbery is acting this way just like for enterprise. They going for a full support for all brands. BB will be the unknows service company who earns there money thanks to all brands.
Thanks to blackberry QNX your porsche 911 is using all there horsepowers in the right way , no spoiling in there and the sotware made this car great.03-03-14 11:42 AMLike 0 - Makes perfect sense for Apple to partner with QNX on this one. The only thing that could kill Apple is to make customers unhappy with a very high dollar purchase on which they are stuck making payments. CarPlay NEEDS to work right from day 1. People can't switch cars like they switch phones when most people these days are upside down on their loans for the first couple of years. Microsoft was okay in cars for years because nobody expected much from them "It's Microsoft; it's going to crash from time to time". Apple is held to a much different standard03-03-14 11:43 AMLike 0
- to all "it is a loss sayers":
What if QNX denied to work as underlying system? Apple would have moved on.... because most of the people want Apple "features" and therefore it does not matter if QNX can deliver something more powerful, even with a more beautiful interface or not. Its not Apple. The End.
There are so many areas in this world where weaker, less functional and more comfortable software /systems are used, because the user wants it, and not because its the best. (Think about embedded android...)
And at last but not least, tell me how BlackBerry should win a "hype time" war against the company thats the "hype". There is no win in a frontal fight. Sorry, every car that will be sold with "carplay" is also a car sold with a SIL 3 compatible operating system, made in canada. Bam. The End. Perhaps less revenue for QNX thant Apple , BUT after years of using QNX, QNX is more important to Apple than now Apple is to QNX, because the whole carplay thing is designed and extended to work with QNX.
long term !
regards03-03-14 11:43 AMLike 0 - It's not a loss for QNX. But people are disappointed for BlackBerry because at one time there was this myth that if BB bought QNX and BB10 was based on QNX, then there would be this magical interconnection between these different QNX devices that would fuel BlackBerry's resurgence. Remember Heins talking about parking meters or some such thing?
The reality, as we're seeing now, is that if you get into your new QNX powered car with your QNX powered phone, you get ordinary A2DP and handsfree calling. OTOH, if you get into your new QNX powered car with your iOS powered phone, you get this really integrated experience.03-03-14 11:44 AMLike 9 -
The lesson here is that Lowe's quietly took their business in-house eventually...03-03-14 11:46 AMLike 0 - QNX doesn't do "all the hard work". QNX doesn't do much at all, which is why Blackberry only makes a couple bucks/cents. Don't you think the license fees have much to do with their importance?
And Blackberry hardly did any "work" on QNX. Embedded OSes are not super dynamic OSes like consumer grade desktop or smartphone OSes.03-03-14 11:52 AMLike 0 - You guys are not understanding how this works. CarPlay will basically be feature within the QNX OS. The in-car infotainment system will still be QNX Car 2. Car manufacturers will still be paying QNX for the OS. Carplay just overrides the UI of the OS and it only works if you get into to car with your iPhone 5, but car manufacturers still need to license QNX for all those people who do not have an iPhone. Keep in mind this feature only works with IPhone 5 and higher. So if you get into the car with another phone you will still be presented with an OS and that will be QNX Car 2.
This is a win for Blackberry because now the OS is more valuable to car companies and more people are going to buy cars with infotainment systems for this feature alone (from what I have read Carplay only works on QNX)
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No wonder BlackBerry shares are on a slight rise today when the market is going down.
Q10SQN100-3/10.2.1.2141, Z30, Z10, iP5, SGS303-03-14 11:53 AMLike 0 - to all "it is a loss sayers":
What if QNX denied to work as underlying system? Apple would have moved on.... because most of the people want Apple "features" and therefore it does not matter if QNX can deliver something more powerful, even with a more beautiful interface or not. Its not Apple. The End.
There are so many areas in this world where weaker, less functional and more comfortable software /systems are used, because the user wants it, and not because its the best. (Think about embedded android...)
And at last but not least, tell me how BlackBerry should win a "hype time" war against the company thats the "hype". There is no win in a frontal fight. Sorry, every car that will be sold with "carplay" is also a car sold with a SIL 3 compatible operating system, made in canada. Bam. The End. Perhaps less revenue for QNX thant Apple , BUT after years of using QNX, QNX is more important to Apple than now Apple is to QNX, because the whole carplay thing is designed and extended to work with QNX.
long term !
regards
Posted via CB1003-03-14 11:54 AMLike 0 - This is not much of a loss for Blackberry because Blackberry never really had much of a chance, here. All Apple is doing is enabling a UX interface for a car and telling car companies that they can either participate or not. Who is going to say no to all those iPhone users, especially, if they are going to be seeing it work in other vehicles. Nothing makes you want to upgrade vehicles more than renting a car and finding out how much better your smartphone works with other systems. I guess the fact that you aren't breaking any laws by touching your in-dash screen is a plus these days.
The processor, GPS functions, connectivity, music, and apps will all be on the iPhone. The ecosystem of apps, maps, data, weather, connectivity, audio content, will be Apple's. Every iOS app developer will be able to target the CarPlay UX if they wish including Waze, Rdio, Stitcher, weather app, Nest (home thermostat), Starbucks, Papa Johns, WalMart, etc. They will let the developers/retailers decide what functionality they wish to enable such as ordering your pizza or Starbucks before you get there using voice commands.
I'm sure that like iTunes Sync, it will do it by Bluetooth if necessary but will be much faster and less battery-draining to use the lightning adapter. Plus, it never hurts to charge up the phone while driving, especially while using GPS.
Blackberry's leverage is "We already run your car infotainment system." Apple's leverage is "This is what your customers want."TGR1 likes this.03-03-14 11:55 AMLike 1 - Apple doesn't want you to be clear on that. That detracts from their mission of being "in car" technology. You'll need to wait until it comes out or someone gets a closer look at it to get the full, real story. It's hype time now, all they want you to see is nice cars with Apple technology.
Thunderbuck likes this.03-03-14 11:55 AMLike 1 - Yes but they work perfectly together, no bugs, no lags or hiccups, it's a big upside, I prefer something that works, instead of something that works when the weather is good.03-03-14 11:56 AMLike 0
- Hello people...what do you call this:
Uconnect® Access | The next generation of connectivity has arrived
It's real it's right now and it works great with my Z30....but NOT with an iphone.03-03-14 12:05 PMLike 0 - Hello people...what do you call this:
Uconnect® Access | The next generation of connectivity has arrived
It's real it's right now and it works great with my Z30....but NOT with an iphone.
But do you get app integration? This page Uconnect® Access | The next generation of connectivity has arrived says app integration is supported only on iOS and Android. The app is listed as available in Google Play and the App Store.cwalt2166 likes this.03-03-14 12:11 PMLike 1 - ThunderbuckRetired ModeratorApple doesn't want you to be clear on that. That detracts from their mission of being "in car" technology. You'll need to wait until it comes out or someone gets a closer look at it to get the full, real story. It's hype time now, all they want you to see is nice cars with Apple technology.
This is not the blow that some are trying to claim; the new QNX/Qualcomm UI is pretty decent, too. The main draws to this are that it's consistent with Apple's UI and the availability of Siri. Just as an aside, none of the iPhone users I know actually use Siri for anything, though in a moving car she might be more useful.
I won't say it's completely insignificant, but for anyone not already hooked into Apple's ecosystem it's not likely to make much difference.03-03-14 12:12 PMLike 0 - sleepngbearRetired ModeratorJust curious why this is here in BB news. People flip their sh*t whenever somebody posts bad news about Apple here, but I guess this is ok.03-03-14 12:12 PMLike 0
- Hello people...what do you call this:
Uconnect® Access | The next generation of connectivity has arrived
It's real it's right now and it works great with my Z30....but NOT with an iphone.app_Developer and OMGitworks like this.03-03-14 12:12 PMLike 2 - Could it be that BlackBerry, Microsoft and Android will later on build their own "car play" on top of QNX?
From my Z10.03-03-14 12:13 PMLike 0
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