Another Reason For RIM's Poor Performance! Back Stabbing Carriers!!
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- i would. not everybody is a tech-junkie that needs today's hottest phone to get through the day. for some people (my mother included) it is about the keyboard and only the keyboard. skype doesn't matter, netflix doesn't matter, jetpack joyride, draw something and the top 10 on Google Play and Itunes app store don't matter. LTE, 4" screens and quad-core don't matter. the bells and whistles, the "cool"/"wow" factor don't matter. some people want a device that they feel comfortable using and for some that isn't what is selling like hotcakes right now (the trend). it's naive to think all store reps have happy customers in mind.416to604 likes this.01-01-13 09:21 PMLike 1
- All I have heard is posters that are for or against RIM in this thread. Not one person has considered what the customer actually needs.
I would start by asking the customer the few most important questions of all; do you prefer a touch screen and do you use a lot of apps? if the answer is "No" to both then any of the BlackBerrry's would be a perfect match for this customer.
Seems that everyone from the carriers to the posters in this thread are only concerned about their own point of view. BlackBerry is the best choice and the worst choice; it just depends on who is looking.
Tim
Sent from my BlackBerry 9900
There is simply no BB device at any price point that doesn't have a better competitor right now. Unless you specifically need BB (BBM, extra secure etc) then until BB10 hits, salespeople are doing the right thing selling other devices.01-01-13 09:29 PMLike 0 - And likewise it's naive to think that everyone is like your mom who needs a keyboard when the sales reps know that every nth sale is a device with a touch screen with a large screen and access to the hottest apps. They're going by what sells, what most are after. The one mistake in all of this was because the rep didn't say "Hey if you like BlackBerry, hold on to your upgrade because they're about to release a great new OS..." Unfortunately, most reps don't get paid to think. They put forth enough effort at work to get their measly pay in most cases and call it a day. They see dozens of people every day and don't really give thought to any individual.brianatbb likes this.01-01-13 09:34 PMLike 1
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Garbage salespeople would be pushing an old BB right now vs a much better equipped Android or iOS phone for the same $. Until BB10 arrives, it would be far more heinous to allow someone to sign a new contract on a BB7 device.01-01-13 09:53 PMLike 3 -
- That is market dependent I guess. Here, right now a 9220 Curve is €89 ($118?) Pay As You Go. That's not expensive if someone need that kind of phone, as the other phones on the same price bracket are the Galaxy Gio and lower end Nokia Ashas. If someone just wants BIS, BBM and a nice keyboard, we can't compare €89 for a curve with likely >€500 for a Z10.01-02-13 03:35 AMLike 0
- That's a pretty crappy view of salespeople. Now, it is in their best interests to make a sale today, but regular customers, and the ones who act decent and ask for advice on phones could easily get a "if you need BB, wait a month" recommendation. But for anyone who has an immediate need/desire, or who has no strog preference, there would be no reason for a salespeson to encourage them to wait, as all their needs can be met with something else.01-02-13 07:47 AMLike 0
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Oh, and the kicker, SVDO. Simultaneous Voice Data Optimization. Voice and data at the same time, which is pretty new on CDMA. The ability to use LTE is almost a bonus to that.pantlesspenguin likes this.01-02-13 08:38 AMLike 1 - Yes, because the typical carrier store employee making about $15 an hour is going to spend that much time getting to personally know each and every one of the customers that come into the shop.01-02-13 12:35 PMLike 0
- All they need to do is ask a select few questions about what the person wants and what's important to them. Then they can give them a phone or two to consider. It's really not that big of a deal as you present it.01-02-13 01:40 PMLike 0
- Notice I said "most" when making my point about salespeople. There are obviously exceptions to the rule (reeneebob is de' one). In my years of electronics buying, I've known more about the prodcuts and services than the reps. When trying to troubleshoot, I've had reps tell me that what I'm experiencing is normal, when I KNOW otherwise. Last year I got a new laptop, and from day 1 I've had a problem with the cursor jumping around on me. Like I'll be typing in a field, then suddenly the cursor jumps and I'll be typing somewhere else. For a few months this didn't bother me that much, but I knew that if I decided to go back to school at some point (Dr. Penguin kinda has a ring to it, no?) that would get VERY aggrivating when trying to write essays. I took it back to Best Buy and explained my problem. Without even offering to look at it or send it back (it's still under warranty) the "Geek Squad" dude said "Oh, you're just resting your palm on the touch pad. Lift your hands when you type and that won't happen." ::headdesk:: I tried to nicely explain that I'm no stranger to laptops, I've had 5 in the past 15 years and that's NEVER happened. He insisted he was right and tried to push a Geek Squad protection plan on me. THAT'S the type of "customer service" I typically get with electronics retail, unfortunately.01-02-13 02:32 PMLike 0
- The unfortunate fact is, there is also still a hefty dose of chauvinism found in many sales venues, also. 'Little lady should listen to us because we know better' kind of attitude. It really annoyed me when I spent 6 months or so selling cars, and I didn't practice that unspoken 'policy', but some folks think it's still OK.01-02-13 04:16 PMLike 0
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All I want for Christmas, New Years and my birthday is hockey back, or Bettmans head on a platter. Whichever's easier...pantlesspenguin likes this.01-02-13 09:18 PMLike 1 - While I tend to agree with OP, the fact remains that it is what is best for that particular consumer and the needs that need to be fufilled. I think the sell what makes us the most profit attitude has hurt a lot of people, by that I mean consumers who pay these monthly fees, not the people collecting them obviously. I myself have been around the smartphone block. My first was a Treo 650, and then on to everything else, Iphone, Android, Windows, ect.. But I have always come back to Blackberry. I have been a fan from the get go. Just a matter of personal choice but I will continue to defend my Blackberry because I like them.... maybe too much!01-03-13 12:42 AMLike 0
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