1. smart548's Avatar
    09-07-15 10:48 AM
  2. diegonei's Avatar
    What does BIS has to do with this? BlackBerry10 devices DO NOT use BIS.

    Even if the image is true, BIS has no place on the title of the thread.
    jaydee5799 and kbz1960 like this.
    09-07-15 11:49 AM
  3. thurask's Avatar
    One step forward, ten steps back?

    Posted via CB10
    LazyEvul, jaydee5799 and kbz1960 like this.
    09-07-15 11:52 AM
  4. Q10Bold's Avatar
    Maybe thats a new security feature, but the name is maybe just similar to the Interenet Service on OS7.
    09-07-15 12:05 PM
  5. crackbrry fan's Avatar
    Fantastic

    Posted via CB10
    09-07-15 12:41 PM
  6. lawguyman's Avatar
    The BlackBerry name badge ribbon in the photo is a nice touch!

    Congrats!

    Posted via CB10
    AnimalPak200 likes this.
    09-07-15 12:41 PM
  7. smart548's Avatar
    One step forward, ten steps back?

    Posted via CB10
    If this pick is not fake (which I doubt) you are right..Or,maybe, it's not a BIS service like the one we are used to..Maybe, following the rumors posted a couple of days ago, it's just something that allows BB to 'secure' the phone when using Android as an option..Just a guess which is 99% not going to be true. Because it would mean 'dual OS' and that this image is legit..

    Posted via CB10
    09-07-15 12:55 PM
  8. js8229's Avatar
    BIS makes a lot of sense here from a security standpoint. i think we were all surprised when that wasn't how BB10 worked.

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9810
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    09-07-15 01:06 PM
  9. KermEd's Avatar
    Well BIS is being shutdown, and won't be on BB10.

    What we see above is another screenshot of the same Switch to Android button we've seen a few times in other screenshots.

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    09-07-15 01:18 PM
  10. KingOfQwerty's Avatar
    Voila! Its speculation time.

    Now this could explain why in another thread someone was translating a German article that BBRY is negotiating with GOOG for sending some data to BB server and not Google server.
    09-07-15 01:19 PM
  11. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    BIS makes a lot of sense here from a security standpoint.
    Really? Do tell. Many of us here would be interested in knowing about the additional security features BIS brings to smartphones.
    Superfly_FR and kbz1960 like this.
    09-07-15 03:24 PM
  12. whatsever's Avatar
    BIS is coming back on BBM for 5 dollar a month for a more secure BBM, BROWSER,EMAIL and STORAGE 20 GB , you can buy it while you shopping some stickers
    jaydee5799 likes this.
    09-07-15 03:58 PM
  13. thurask's Avatar
    BIS is coming back on BBM for 5 dollar a month for a more secure BBM, BROWSER,EMAIL and STORAGE 20 GB , you can buy it while you shopping some stickers
    [citation needed]

    Posted via CB10
    09-07-15 04:00 PM
  14. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    BIS-like compression would be nice for traveling I guess. Somehow I don't see many carriers too eager to agree to it, however.

    Posted via CB10
    09-07-15 04:05 PM
  15. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    Why is the Switch to Android button blue? Activated, perhaps.

    Posted via CB10
    09-07-15 04:08 PM
  16. thurask's Avatar
    Might just be the JPEG-ness of the image, but the font on the supposed BIS and Android toggles looks off compared to the others...
    gfondeur likes this.
    09-07-15 04:18 PM
  17. bbq_blackberry's Avatar
    Even if the image is real I doubt it is anything what we are hoping. The 'switch to android' button is probably just an option to turn the runtime on and off to conserve battery, secure bb10 and allow bb to put android on the venice without violating the open handset alliance, no google play.
    The BIS option looks interesting. Maybe BlackBerry will abandon os7 and start selling bb10 devices in regions of the world still using BIS successfully - nigeria?

    Posted via CB10
    gfondeur likes this.
    09-07-15 06:14 PM
  18. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    Even if the image is real I doubt it is anything what we are hoping. The 'switch to android' button is probably just an option to turn the runtime on and off to conserve battery, secure bb10 and allow bb to put android on the venice without violating the open handset alliance, no google play.
    The BIS option looks interesting. Maybe BlackBerry will abandon os7 and start selling bb10 devices in regions of the world still using BIS successfully - nigeria?

    Posted via CB10
    Lol... have you ever tried to open an Android up right after doing a reset? The Android runtime takes a long time to initialize. There is no way they would add 'quick setting' button to do that. People already complain that the Network ON/OFF button takes too long.

    Who knows. But why doesn't the quick settings drop down have the three grey horizontal 'drag' UI lines at the very bottom that let a user close it?

    Posted via CB10
    09-07-15 06:30 PM
  19. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    Might just be the JPEG-ness of the image, but the font on the supposed BIS and Android toggles looks off compared to the others...
    That's because the image is a fake. Bring it into an image editor (Photoshop, Gimp, etc.) and you'll easily see the cut & paste job.

    Anyway, for those who don't yet know it, BIS doesn't bring any additional security to BBOS, except in that it enables BBM, and BBM has some low-grade encryption on it (with the same key for every device). It's not like BES, which makes BBM much more secure by using a unique-to-the-company encryption key, enabling much more secure communications within the company.

    BIS was primarily a proxy server for your internet connection that added compression techniques to reduce the amount of data used to transmit web traffic, at the expense of quality for things like pictures and videos. It was designed to make 2G networks, which were the standard when BIS was designed, usable for limited mobile web browsing and email. By routing web traffic and email through BB's servers, it enabled push email and reduced data usage when those things were important.

    But this is 2015, (and soon 2016), and 4G LTE networks are the norm in the developed world (and coming to developing countries quickly), and BIS would only slow down a modern connection, not speed it up. Push email is also standard today with IMAP.

    BIS had real value when it was originally released, but it is obsolete today and won't be coming back. Most importantly, it did NOT bring the additional security features like some seem to believe - those folks must be confusing BIS with BES; while the acronyms are similar, the products are very different.
    09-07-15 07:32 PM
  20. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    Ayayay.. Troy crushes CB joy again.

    Like I said before, using the BIS infrastructure to offer some sort of single payment carrier-independent compressed-data Global Travel package would still be relevant. At least until everyone decides to do a T Mobile.

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    gfondeur and mathking606 like this.
    09-07-15 07:47 PM
  21. thurask's Avatar
    Ayayay.. Troy crushes CB joy again.
    Aww, the "BIS cures cancer" brigade didn't even get the chance to show up...
    09-07-15 07:52 PM
  22. bbq_blackberry's Avatar
    Lol... have you ever tried to open an Android up right after doing a reset? The Android runtime takes a long time to initialize. There is no way they would add 'quick setting' button to do that. People already complain that the Network ON/OFF button takes too long.

    Who knows. But why doesn't the quick settings drop down have the three grey horizontal 'drag' UI lines at the very bottom that let a user close it?

    Posted via CB10
    Android is a security nightmare, it makes sense to give customers the option to disable the runtime.

    Posted via CB10
    09-07-15 08:12 PM
  23. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Android is a security nightmare, it makes sense to give customers the option to disable the runtime.

    Posted via CB10
    Stop the "cancer" via killswitch or what...? :-)

    �   Andro-Loader (TM) - who is gonna leak ...? Black-Berry! dadadada dee dum dee dum...   �
    09-07-15 09:06 PM
  24. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    That's because the image is a fake. Bring it into an image editor (Photoshop, Gimp, etc.) and you'll easily see the cut & paste job.
    Hum ... while this approach is not 100% accurate (the image can be flattered/saved several times, etc), the ELA is pretty consistent here, besides the obvious logo and red circle/arrow. (also means : If fake, can be a pic displayed into the device)
    Warning : FWIW, 2cents, salt, etc.

    EDIT: if my like wasn't clear enough, agree with the rest of your post though.
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    09-08-15 11:59 AM
  25. jaydee5799's Avatar
    how much mileage are we gonna get from this fake-azz pic anyway?
    kbz1960 likes this.
    09-08-15 03:19 PM
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