Wow! My employees prefer Z10 OVER Classic. Thoughts?
- The excitement of my new shipment of BlackBerry Classics came today for all my employees. Over time and through the years we've gone from the Storm to the Curve, upgrading to the 9930s, the Zed 10s, and now the Classics. In a meeting today I handed out all the new Classics with some overlay here during it where my employees can still use there Zed 10s and the Classic at the same time until next week give or take having to swap their BlackBerry IDs back and forth for personal between the two devices.
The surprise here was that after two hours of intense usage on the new Classic and so forth, an overwhelming majority spoke and said they prefer the Zed 10 over the Classic. I was in shock, literally as this goes past the point of just everyday general preference(s) for the full qwerty vs. the touch. I guess it's just 'shock value' here where I've spent an enormous investment in these new classics, but with the Z10s, I'm at a lost for words.
I suppose if I can afford to allow them to use both I will and maybe it will take a bit of an adjustment period on either side of the line, but, for example, how all of us embraced the 9930 at the time vs using the Classic, there's no comparison, and to think, that for the most part after two years with the original flagship device as the Zed 10, with the specs being almost identical give or take a few, I'm thinking about the embracing period here. A resounding 'wow' here. I really thought they'd be excited as I took polls, had them read the reviews and so forth, not to mention how the new classics will work with our BES10 etc., I don't know what to say.
I guess as an owner in relation to BlackBerry, I am an early adopter. BlackBerry is every much a part of my professional life as it is personal and I want my employees to be happy. I suppose if they have to use both I may let them as I need to go over integration and so forth of keeping the Zeds and using the new Classics.
Still to this day, the Zed 10 to me was way ahead of its time (see my post on "A time in passing: Remembering my Zed 10, two years, the flagship of beauty in a new era")
That Z10 is still as strong today for all the right reasons. Curious to see where the Classics will take us...
Sent from my BlackBerry PassportCyberMan2013 likes this.02-27-15 06:44 PMLike 1 - So 99% of smartphones sold are all touch and there is shock that end users prefer all touch over the Classic?! Chen might be in shock too when he realizes what a waste it was to focus so much on PKB and ignoring the existing Z line customers. I'm seeing federal employees taking the Z line over PKB too. Unless you are typing super long emails, books, or documents, PKB just isn't needed and most end users want all touch.
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Sent from my BlackBerry Passport02-27-15 06:48 PMLike 0 -
Not sure how it's a waste if it sells as many as the Z's.
Also,"most" means more than 50%, leaving plenty of room for qwerty fans. And most of them want it because that's the only thing they've ever experienced, perhaps like the OPs employees. But I think many other miss the PKB and simply accept the typing experience in exchange for more screen space.Last edited by redlightblinking; 02-27-15 at 07:20 PM.
02-27-15 07:09 PMLike 0 - To be honest, the classic is really a very limited device designed to migrate 9900 users who can't live without the tool belt. Anyone else who prefers a keyboard phone is going to pick a passport especially given current pricing. Everyone else is going to pick a Z10/Z30.
Posted via CB1002-27-15 07:55 PMLike 0 - No, you would be wrong. It is basically a myth that physical keyboard phones are popular amongst business users. I am not talking about these phones being better or worse. It is just a fact.
Posted via CB10MarsupilamiX likes this.02-27-15 07:58 PMLike 1 - I think the shock was how many phones the Z sold. Uh, I mean didn't sell. Thus, the return of the keyboard for the people still sticking with BB.
Not sure how it's a waste if it sells as many as the Z's.
Typing anything, regardless of how long it is, is easier, more accurate and faster, not just super long emails. Operation is faster with all the shortcuts.
Also,"most" means more than 50%, leaving plenty of room for qwerty fans. And most of them want it because that's the only thing they've ever experienced, perhaps like the OPs employees. But I think many other miss the PKB and simply accept the typing experience in exchange for more screen space.
Posted via CB10MarsupilamiX and pantlesspenguin like this.02-27-15 08:02 PMLike 2 - Not a shock to me. No one wants to use an antique. I mean Classic.
BlackBerry hates America!MarsupilamiX likes this.02-27-15 08:17 PMLike 1 -
I can't see one thing, besides the battery, that is better or improved upon over the Z10.
BlackBerry hates America!kbz1960 and MarsupilamiX like this.02-27-15 08:19 PMLike 2 - It's normal to dislike a phone with a smaller screen. I wont go back to Q10 after having the Z30 (my eyes hate to squint). Then they'd miss the flicking. What "other" apps do they have on their Z10? "Other" means games, videos, non-work apps. They wouldn't be able to port it properly to the Classic.
Posted via CB1002-27-15 08:28 PMLike 0 - Return the Classics and get them Z30's. If they like the Z10's, they'll LOVE the Z30's!
You should even save a few bucks in the swap.
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In case anyone missed the advantages (IMHO)
Larger screen
Wider keyboard
Phenomenal battery
Miracast a.k.a wireless screen share
FM radio
Better specs/ runs faster
Better speakers (just place your phone on the table and you have conference call quality)
Better Bluetooth syncing with running accessories
Harder to steal ( back cover is difficult to take off and battery is not removable which gives more time for tracking)
Z10 advantages
Brighter screen ( gap has narrowed with this new OS)
Posted via CB10CyberMan2013 and dazzleaj like this.02-27-15 09:41 PMLike 2 - With a very good virtual kb on BB10, imo, most people wouldn't like to give away the advantages of the real estate for a similarly spec'd, smaller screen device. And I guess that's why the Passport is such a masterstroke. Like it was said so aptly for 9900, it's actually the best of both worlds: you get the pkb without compromising on the screen size. That being said, I guess Classic had very specific a target audience: people still using the BBOS devices with the screen size not being an issue.
Posted via CB1002-27-15 10:02 PMLike 0 - And why wouldn't they? The reasons are all too obvious.
Just imagine if you'd gone one step further and given them Z30s; you'd be boss of the century!
Posted via CB1002-27-15 10:07 PMLike 4 - OP does not want to pay for a Passport. Also not everyone wants such a wide device. It bothers me to no end that the one device that might have found a following is a Passport with a screen with a 4:3 screen. It could have had the same screen size but a more usable width. The Classic is as wide as I would want.
I agree that OP should be taking those Classic's back for Z30's or just wait for the "Leap".
Posted via CB10dazzleaj likes this.02-27-15 10:20 PMLike 1 -
- I was at West Edmonton Mall today, walked past a cellular kiosk where they had the Passport set up by the Classic. I went over to "covet" the Passport, as this is all I can currently afford to do. I was kind of caught off guard by the Classic. My first reaction was that it was an old BlackBerry. Then after I realized what it was, I kind of wondered what the point was.
I realize there are holdouts for the belt but as someone who has used the Z10 for two years, I have no desire to try to adapt back to it. The gestures to me are the best part of BB10 and the belt looks like it's in the way. I wonder if your employees are feeling the same way. I love my touch screen and the screen real estate, but I know I'd probably be happy with one of the non-belt pkb phones.
It just feels like the past to have those buttons there.
Posted via CB1002-27-15 11:55 PMLike 0 -
A lot of people left BlackBerry not because of the limitations of the form factor, but the limitations of the software and minimilistic specs
Posted via CB1002-27-15 11:57 PMLike 0 - I was at West Edmonton Mall today, walked past a cellular kiosk where they had the Passport set up by the Classic. I went over to "covet" the Passport, as this is all I can currently afford to do. I was kind of caught off guard by the Classic. My first reaction was that it was an old BlackBerry. Then after I realized what it was, I kind of wondered what the point was.
I realize there are holdouts for the belt but as someone who has used the Z10 for two years, I have no desire to try to adapt back to it. The gestures to me are the best part of BB10 and the belt looks like it's in the way. I wonder if your employees are feeling the same way. I love my touch screen and the screen real estate, but I know I'd probably be happy with one of the non-belt pkb phones.
It just feels like the past to have those buttons there.
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Posted via CB1002-28-15 12:04 AMLike 0 - 02-28-15 12:30 AMLike 1
- I moved from a z10 to a passport. Mostly for the larger screen. I do like it's pkb but I do forget to swipe or page up using it mostly and probably would have gone passport all touch.
I certainly would have seen the classic as a step down from a z10!
Swiped on my beautiful Passport!02-28-15 02:13 AMLike 0
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