1. mastermonil's Avatar
    So, my two year contract with att is coming to an end, and it is time to trade in my beloved 9000. Ideally, I would have just upgraded to the torch, but now I am hesitant to do so. Here is my issue and perhaps some of you could give me your opinions.

    1. I loved the bold, but my 9000 no longer can keep up with the growing world of mobile applications. I am limited in application space, ease of use, and the lack of touch screen. However, from what I have read, the torch only provides incremental benefits, especially in regards to speed and processing power. My other concern is that the lcd is not as high of a resolution as other smart phones (not necessarily iphone or htc evo).

    2. If i choose to skip on the torch, will there be other blackberry models that might meet my needs? I have heard rumors of a new blackberry bold.

    Any opinions and comments would be appreciated.

    Cheers
    10-22-10 05:34 PM
  2. _StephenBB81's Avatar
    Please list out your actual needs and desires
    What Apps are you looking for?
    What is your budget for apps? if any?

    IMO the Torch is more then an incremental update from the 9000, as it was a great update from my 9630, which I feel was slightly better than the 9000 in software,
    10-22-10 08:10 PM
  3. freethisberrydotcom's Avatar
    Wait for the 9780 .. Coming soon.
    10-22-10 08:15 PM
  4. pattste's Avatar
    Wait for the 9780 .. Coming soon.
    How will the 9780 address any of the OP's concerns? He wants a touch screen, higher resolution than the Torch and faster processor. The 9780 doesn't provide any of that.
    10-22-10 08:56 PM
  5. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I got the Torch, and I love it. I really hope RIM doesn't do away with this line, because it's fantastic.
    For me, I go for how the phone feels and very rarely do I look at a spec sheet. I suggest checking out the Torch and trying it out for 29 days. If it doesn't suit, return it and consider another RIM device (there is a rumour of a new Storm) or the upcoming 9780 if the touch screen is not a must have.
    10-23-10 08:14 AM
  6. amporter's Avatar
    cant go wrong with the torch my friend
    10-23-10 09:38 AM
  7. kraski's Avatar
    I got the Torch as my first BB, so my thoughts may be a little different than others.

    I waited a few weeks before getting mine. Initial runs of anything usually are far worse than later production models. And I still had issues. Those turned out not to be all RIM's fault. Just before I bought the Torch, my area had some pretty intense weather, which took out or degraded multiple towers in the areas where I live, work & travel around. Add to that RIM's self created problems. QC was apparently not the best for early production runs, it would be kind to say that the first release of OS 6 was "immature" (in other words, it stunk). I didn't have the hardware issues that some reported, but most of my "buyer's remorse" period had enough carrier created problems that I really didn't have a fair test period to make a valid decision about the phone in that period of time. But, as the towers were brought back to normal, my reception issues got a lot better. And I'm not afraid of doing OS upgrades. So, those helped a lot, as well. So, here's my take:

    1) The Torch is a great phone, but OS6 still has issues. Build .225 was pretty awesome, anything before it not so much. The leaked .246 got me back the lousy battery life I had with the initial release of OS6. The official AT&T .246 wasn't any better in that respect. Build .284 sounds like it improves some things, but not all. I still haven't seen any comments about battery life (probably too soon). You might need to update OS version, if you decide on the Torch.

    2) There have been comments about wiggle & wobble. After two months, if I press down on the very bottom edge of the screen section (on the chrome), I can get a little up & down motion. But come on, guys, it's a slider! Over time, there's going to be some wear. And the motion I mentioned is not related to any normal operation or motion. At least on mine, there's no movement when fully open & none effecting using the screen when it's closed. That said, there may be some loose phones still out there. So, if you decide on the Torch, be prepared for the possibility that you might want to replace the the phone.

    3) Closed, the phone is pretty close to the size of the Storm. And, closed, it's thinner than some of the WM phones Ie used with sliding physical keyboards. So, it's pretty pocketable. Open, it's long. But balance is good. I'm mostly a two handed phone user (one to hold, one to use it), but the times I've done something one handed, it didn't seem any more difficult than other portrait keyboard phones I've used or tried.

    4) I'm probably a little "more mature" than most, here. So, my eyes appreciate the larger screen real estate. And the resolution is good enough for most things. Although, at least to be more competitive with the rest of the smartphone world, they could have gone with a higher resolution. I'm not big on watching full length movies on my phone. I have computers with larger screens (& a large flatscreen TV at home) for that. Most videos display fine on the Torch, but I don't think I'd want to try Avatar all the way through on the Torch.

    5) There's the touchscreen thing. Most BB "purists" don't see the need. In my case, all of the smartphones I've used had both physical keyboards & touchscreens. How much I rely on each depends on the function. Some things I only use the keyboard, others I rely heavily on touchscreen navigation & input. If the Torch had been minus either, I wouldn't have bought a BB. Once you've gotten used to the ease of using both, you really don't want to go back. But you may want something different than I do, in that respect.

    Having said all that, I'll add that I love my Torch. But, if you've noticed, I've tried being as unbiased as possible in giving you the pluses & minuses of the phone. I'm not going to assume that the things that are important to me in choosing a phone are necessarily what helps you choose a phone. But I hope I've given you enough to think about. And, particularly as the holidays approach, you can be sure that, no matter what you buy, there'll be something "bigger & better" within 35 days after you get your phone.
    10-23-10 10:02 AM
  8. dwaynewilliams#WN's Avatar
    I have found that it is difficult to judge devices based on a spec sheet. I like to have an experience with a device first. I would suggest to the OP to try out the Torch first before having an opinion about it. It just may be the device you are looking for. The screen resolution, processor, OS features, and form factor of BBs seem to behind the times, but somehow, they are still the best smartphones I have ever used. This is because the user experience of the total package is remarkable.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    10-23-10 02:36 PM
  9. mastermonil's Avatar
    Yeah maybe I will get the torch and try it for 30 days and see how it works. Budget is not an issue since the phone's cost will be subsidized.

    thanks
    10-25-10 12:00 PM
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