Will there be no internet connection on my bb 10 after 2018?
- WiFi will work for the foreseeable future, but as for mobile data, the big issue there is carriers, not BB. Carriers are constantly moving forward, which means discontinuing old services (like 2G and 3G networks and phone calls) and refarming those frequency bands for other uses (such as LTE and 5G). Sooner or later, changes by your carrier will prevent your phone from making calls or getting a data connection - that's inevitable. I have a box with 8 or 9 phones in it that are all obsolete due to carrier networking changes.01-04-19 04:31 PMLike 0
- Well, it's Jan 4 and I am reading this and typing this response on a Classic running BlackBerry 10. Besides the fact most of the apps are gone from the store, my main problem is sometimes Web sites are not compatible with my browser.
It's hard to believe this BlackBerry Classic has held up so well all these years. I've never seen a phone come close in longevity. Still looks new. Awesome phone, an old friend.
I plan to update to Keyone later this month.01-04-19 05:54 PMLike 0 - Well, it's Jan 4 and I am reading this and typing this response on a Classic running BlackBerry 10. Besides the fact most of the apps are gone from the store, my main problem is sometimes Web sites are not compatible with my browser.
It's hard to believe this BlackBerry Classic has held up so well all these years. I've never seen a phone come close in longevity. Still looks new. Awesome phone, an old friend.
I plan to update to Keyone later this month.
I'm personally not too sold on the Android variant of BlackBerry. Too pricey compared other phones of similar ability. When this phone finally gives up I'll probably end up with a One Plus. Gonna be hard going back to Android because I've found BB10 to be great.
Posted via CB1001-04-19 09:06 PMLike 0 -
What is shutting down are some of BlackBerry's back-end services after 2019. Still (almost) a year away.
BIS is shutting down for sure (only affecting OS 7 and older - no affect on BB10). And, BBW is shutting down. We don't have definitive word on any other services yet, like BBID or Protect.
But, direct mobile carrier connection should still work, and wi-fi would still work.01-04-19 11:41 PMLike 0 -
In fact, even with the old BBOS phones that used BIS, wi-fi and carrier cellular connection would still work without BIS. Should be the same with BB10, even carrier mobile data should still work without the back-end connection.
BBID and BlackBerry Protect are the question marks in the equation.01-05-19 12:48 AMLike 0 - WiFi will work for the foreseeable future, but as for mobile data, the big issue there is carriers, not BB. Carriers are constantly moving forward, which means discontinuing old services (like 2G and 3G networks and phone calls) and refarming those frequency bands for other uses (such as LTE and 5G). Sooner or later, changes by your carrier will prevent your phone from making calls or getting a data connection - that's inevitable. I have a box with 8 or 9 phones in it that are all obsolete due to carrier networking changes.
Posted via CB10anon(5597702) likes this.01-05-19 05:15 AMLike 1 - Well, it's Jan 4 and I am reading this and typing this response on a Classic running BlackBerry 10. Besides the fact most of the apps are gone from the store, my main problem is sometimes Web sites are not compatible with my browser.
It's hard to believe this BlackBerry Classic has held up so well all these years. I've never seen a phone come close in longevity. Still looks new. Awesome phone, an old friend.
I plan to update to Keyone later this month.elfabio80 likes this.01-05-19 05:50 AMLike 1 - I thought BlackBerry had discontinued updates, etc already. I thought I read something about this maybe last summer when they let the BlackBerry 10 app store go to seed. I was surprised that it still functions.01-05-19 06:00 AMLike 0
- Not for BB10. That's part of the back-end services that we don't know the full story on. The symbol was more important to the operation of the phone as a whole for BBOS 7 and older - relying on BIS, but BB10 is not as dependent on that connection.
In fact, even with the old BBOS phones that used BIS, wi-fi and carrier cellular connection would still work without BIS. Should be the same with BB10, even carrier mobile data should still work without the back-end connection.
BBID and BlackBerry Protect are the question marks in the equation.01-05-19 06:51 AMLike 0 - This is what I’ve never fully understood. In a BBOS device, the BB symbol represented my BIS data up and running and connected to BIS servers for email. In a BB10 device, since data is from carrier, what does the BB symbol represent and when not present NOW, what is down or not functioning?
Posted via CB10elfabio80 likes this.01-05-19 07:10 AMLike 1 - So BB10 users lose Blend, Protect and the App Store after this year. Device will function as some have said as long as device isn’t wiped.01-05-19 08:22 AMLike 0
- I don't think they will stop to work after being wiped.... Anyway it will be interesting if Bla1ze could ask officially somebody on BB....01-05-19 11:09 AMLike 0
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- He means at BB10 development @ BB the company. Pretty much everybody in BB10 developers was laid off long ago. The reality is that nobody even at BB can be really certain. Which goes back to comment that BB10 person at BB really doesn’t care. It’s like a ghost ship.....01-05-19 11:28 AMLike 0
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AT&T will support GSM calling through at least 2020, but GSM calling is still on the way out, and AT&T has been restricting phones from using VoLTE too, in an effort to get people to upgrade to modern devices (and it affects lots of phone brands/models, not just BB).
T-Mobile is buying Sprint is almost certainly going to result in some band refarming and people with older Sprint devices are going to be forced to get a new device.
So, changes are coming, as they always do. Carriers aren't making these changes to hurt BB - they're making them to move their businesses forward, and a ton of older devices will be affected. Hell, almost everyone with a feature phone will be forced to upgrade (if only to a new LTE-only feature phone) in the next year or two.
This is one of many reasons why manufacturers don't worry much about older devices - it's widely understood that an older device can't count on support from the carrier anyway.01-05-19 11:58 AMLike 0 - I'm not sure I said "it will stop working tomorrow". LOL. But Verizon is turning off CDMA sometime this year, which means that phones that aren't supported for VoLTE on Verizon won't be able to make phone calls. That kills every BBOS phone (not BB10) on Verizon.
AT&T will support GSM calling through at least 2020, but GSM calling is still on the way out, and AT&T has been restricting phones from using VoLTE too, in an effort to get people to upgrade to modern devices (and it affects lots of phone brands/models, not just BB).
T-Mobile is buying Sprint is almost certainly going to result in some band refarming and people with older Sprint devices are going to be forced to get a new device.
So, changes are coming, as they always do. Carriers aren't making these changes to hurt BB - they're making them to move their businesses forward, and a ton of older devices will be affected. Hell, almost everyone with a feature phone will be forced to upgrade (if only to a new LTE-only feature phone) in the next year or two.
This is one of many reasons why manufacturers don't worry much about older devices - it's widely understood that an older device can't count on support from the carrier anyway.01-05-19 12:14 PMLike 0 - So Europe/Asia cancelled 5G ? Pretty sure technology goes obsolete everywhere unless you’re suggesting that Europe/Asia doesn’t keep up. I also have box of phones that power on, but only connect via the WiFi if existing on the phone.01-05-19 12:22 PMLike 0
- No...they did not cancelled...but what I quoted first from Troy was something else.... he was reporting the news that sounded like something is going to happen next months.... Then in Europe we do not have these problematic and funny providers...01-05-19 12:41 PMLike 0
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I’m no engineer, but that has to date the components to early LTE days....01-05-19 12:56 PMLike 0
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